3.45 Doncaster - Golden Dragon 14/1 with Fred at 9.00 - just hope all 8 go!

14:20 Sandown is probably not technically a filthy EW betting race imo. Fav is odds-on but there are way too many other potentially "live" options and potential "lurkers" for the places. However Sand Diego has been calling to me all morning (despite the draw)! and I have capitulated in a small way (EW single).

The 15.10 at Doncaster was the ideal ew race.....as soon as you knew DexB was out.....lumping on, accepting the 20p deduction, and crossing fingers that the 5 ran.

Which they did :-)

19:10 Salisbury Update: As already stated, none of the potential races today looked quite perfect for ew thievery but there were a few that looked like they could take on the right shape. The 19:10 didn't really look like a 2-bet to me this morning (betting 2 selections each way in the same race) because the shape/prices didn't quite make it right for that. The shape is still a bit wrong imo (too many potential "lurkers") but the prices are at least now reflecting that fact. So now at 4/1 and 5/1 respectively (Hills & PP) i will be having a small pop at them both (2 x ew singles on the two most exposed runners - Hazm & Hawridge Storm) if I can get both those prices - currently available to buttons on the EW market here (minus commission).

It's not a typical 2-bet race (I usually only like to do a 2-bet if I think it's a 3 horse race for the places - because it needs either the winner or the winner and a place or both placed, to avoid loosing 2 or even 4 stakes). This doesn't look like a 3 horse race for the places to be honest but at the prices stated (4/1 & 5/1) I will play both ew singles in a small way. GL if you play.

Cheers Kenny - keep it small imo though - it still feels a bit too contrived/constructed for a big ew bet or an ew 2-bet.

If I'm honest I'm probably a bit too trigger happy at the moment, having got away with quite a lot of borderline bets lately (i.e. I have been getting away with backing all the winners & placers and managing to dodge all the losers/unplaced). 

It's a fine line and I suppose it's those kind of races (that make all the difference imo) where I was hoping this thread would stimulate some discussion. The (very fine) balance (imo) between playing too tight (all bets are very obvious but there are too few of them) and playing too loose (manufacturing bets that aren't really there and backing too many unplaced). I think I have the right balance most of the time but really would have liked to have heard from others (be it agreement or disagreement - just another view). Oh well. Good luck to us Kenny, but keep it smallish!!

Weare shitzen!!

A familiar dilemma, the best (Filthy Each Way) race of the day (at 17:45) - for the foundation of all my ew multiples - is the dead 8 runners and will be run several hours later than the races I would like to combine with it in multiples. So fear of a NR and the loss of the 3 places for ew purposes is holding me back from any multiples at the moment.

This has happened a few times recently and all 8 have then gone on to run in the later (ew banker) race - but obviously the race is a completely different proposition (in shops) if reduced to 7 runners, so holding fire for now.

Anyone else got any views, thoughts, selections?

Won

vwd Skip!

I could have done with Ventura Flame (beaten a nose into 4th) hanging on to third place but it's still an absolutely cracking result and 4/1 is a crazy ISP. I honestly thought the betting market stunk but I kept on going back in for more ! I really still can't believe the prices matched on here in the EW market, thought I must be on two non-triers at one point.

It was worth the wait!

Interestingly she was very easy to back when she won last time a well..

That race looks very promising on maths/shape IF all 8 come go into the stalls. Slight concern at the money for the other O'Brien horse (Arizona) - will wait and watch the market for now. The 14:45 at Bath might be a place bet tempter (Summer Skies) imo for a small ew double if all 5 were to run.

Must admit I am swaying towards Summer Skies as well..... Just a truly awful race..

I did the s/f on both olaf and summer ensuring a small but welcome profit.

Same here skip - 17:30 looks the only possible race  - and I think I would want to see the market looking a bit more filthy before playing in that one.

Some grim looking days ahead imo - mostly seaside meetings with small fields!

Could easily lay it at 4.3 in the Each Way market so yes it was free money..... If your into that sort of thing....

Same here. I tend have the odd VERY bad day, but I'm nicely up over year so I'm not complaining..

I did have Chalet down as a vague possibility but it drifted very quickly to about 14.0 - so I just put a line through the race. I am going to pass - but the market is shaping much prettier now!

Pulled like a train and gave up the outside to nobody. Second is a good result Skip.

Like Affluence in the 4.20W as a Filthy EW bet, fit from flat, ran well at Goodwood after 2 good wins at 1m2fs and 1m4fs, nice flat track for him, has to get placed doesn't he?

I am trying (unsuccessfully!) to tighten things up a little bit Stewart - I have passed on all of the Irish races (15:45 looked pretty Filthy) and passed on Worcester also. GL though.