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Start Of The Jumps
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That might be decent, held up and then made good headway and won easy under Maxwell
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It could easily be but depends how good the others are.
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An impressive change of pace from El Cairos, but I think that's all you really can say, at least with any certainty. I doubt he beat much, and they didn't look a great bunch. If you want to set a race up that doesn't expose jockeyship then a crawl is a pretty good way to do it. No strength in the saddle required to produce one on the bridle. Horse not mentioned in the Moore stable tour in Mark Howard's book. Read into that what you want. He will probably go off short next time. For the record the horse that should have beaten him in the point - I Ain't Your Mate - was sold to Laura Morgan for 120,000.
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With regard to the 'in form' Tizzard yard they field the favourites for the two big races over the next two days, JPR One, and The Changing Man. The latter has lost his last 10 being beaten favourite four times. Not the strongest renewals of either race, let's see how they get on.
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149 is the rating of JPR one which is a bit below par for the race. Tizzards have Scarface lurking on bottom weight as well with Harry Cobden riding-and in the Waterworth colours. The Changing Man is in the same colours (but a different owner name) as Hartington. I agree that TCM form does not justify a short price in such a competitive race. I would think that Brocade racing's Remastered from a very in form David Pipe and the Nicholls runner Mofasa are strong rivals.
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Rain needed very quickly. Britain and Ireland.
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dd
Any positive news? |
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dd
Hardly surprising El Cairos not mentioned in MH book as a Moore horse. He only arrived at his new yard on 28th October according to RP |
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Sage, at risk of sounding like a broken record, it's Djelo of Venetia's yard for me in that race at Exeter tomorrow
And she's got a couple of likely ones in Saturday's feature races at Aintree |
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saxon farm,
The irony of people moaning about negativity. Nobody forces anyone to read any post. If what someone is posting isn't cheerleading enough then just ignore it. It's not difficult. A forum is a vehicle for debating different ideas. If you can't accept a different view then why bother coming on a forum in the first place? If you just want wall to wall cheerleading then you have two racing channels and ITV racing. What would be the point of just copying what they are saying on here? As explained time and again bad rides wouldn't need to be called out if any of those three outlets did it, but they don't. Pretending everything is great is not reality. Sorry to sidetrack. |
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I think the Halton is a very open affair. Never been a JPR fan and always thought many of his wins came due his opponents self destructing.
Ground will quick enough for Djelo and handicap mark not a gimmie. Of the others Skeletons is a bit of an unknown but many of the horses seem to be a gallop short in recent weeks. The one I’ve selected is Scarface getting weight and hopefully forcing tactics. Should be fitting fit now and Cobden big plus. 12/1 is worth the chance against this lot. Could be a Cobden day today  |
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Dd
Thanks for replying. It would just be nice to have some balance, both from yourself and the media channels. |
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That's a strange one about El Cairos. It really is hard to believe a horse turns up in a stable without the trainer having any prior knowledge, he immediately makes an entry, and 10 days later it bolts up. How often would that scenario happen, if at all? We are not talking about a ready made horse off the flat, and even then you would think there would be a settling in period.
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or JPR was 2 mistakes in his 1st 2 novice chases from been the UK,s best novice chaser
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Maxwell often buys horses that are ready to run from other stables and pays big money. He may have been over to ride it in the previous yard though.
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The only time that JPR One was beaten without an excuse was Sandown. Even that third place form is worth a mark of 149. Joe is quoted as saying this has been the target since the summer so I would be surprised if he is not as fit as they can get him.
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West Orchard very easy to back but made all. Freddie Gingell really kept at him.
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Fantastic result. Djelo gave me a bit of a fright getting so close after so many mistakes.
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Lovely performance.
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I grew up with racing in the 70's. Top class horses used to run on all sorts of ground on a regular basis. They also used to run much more often, even the good one's. That with less opportunities, and consequently, very good horses running in handicaps. You have to think ground management is better now than it was then. So what's the explanation? Did those concerned 50 years ago care any less about their horses than they do now? Personally, I doubt it. So the only logical explanation is that we are continually producing a weaker breed which means it's perceived that they are much more likely to get injured. That will obviously lead to more and more days like today, and keep lessening the appeal of the sport. It should a massive concern.
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It is a massive concern dd and a complex one. Joe Tizzard just said the going was perfect but that was for a good ground horse. and there is a big difference between an experienced horse and a big baby. Interestingly, Nicholls says in his yearbook "he has never run on anything quicker than good to soft" He was talking about Captain Teague. In the 70s, horses only cost £2000 or so and a lot of owners were used to losing a few every season.
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No doubt Jimmy Frost had that plotted up for Bryony!
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its all relative and the 70,s 2000 horse is today's 200,000 horse bought by the same type of people who could afford 2000 in the 70,s , you could buy a house for 5/6 grand in 70,s
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If I was anti-jumps I might just be asking why ground that is given as 'good' is considered okay by some, but potentially dangerous by others. That would be a difficult question to answer on the basis ground is either safe, or it isn't safe.
In that last race, Beachcomber jumped very cleanly again, but the winner always looked to be too quick for him on that ground. Three reasonable rides from O'Neill, something I don't say that very often. Had his horse not been wayward in the second I think it would have gone very close to turning over the short priced winner. |
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Hope you were on Jonjo in the last. I sat that one out.
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More of Pauling's finding nothing when let down today.
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Unfortunately not. Watching the race it always looked as if he would go close on ground he wants.
Might be amongst the winners tomorrow at Aintree. Mister Meggit already smashed up in the opener. Too short for me. O'Neill has wisely been keeping it simple on this type this season. Let's see if this is a similar exercise. He should also go close in a weak looking bumper. The sire Order Of St George has made a reasonable start, and this one is a home-bred, half brother to two bumper winners. Will keep an eye on Laura Morgan's Kepler's Law. He was a very easy point winner, but 5yo maidens towards the end of the season are not usually that strong. Interesting she has got Bold Endeavour back again. The bumper at Wincanton looks a trappy affair. Sergeant Fury fell over the line when winning his point. The second, a much scopier sort, would have run him down in another stride Another no bet day. |
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I do like Mister Maggot, all its wins have been very impressive. Hopefully he can go on and become a leading novice this side of the water
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Mister Maggot ROMPED HOME
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Good start for Mister Meggit. Let's hope he has a proper season. He doesn't appear to have a great deal of substance to him, amd maybe he won't want too many races. Probably the Challow next. Promising start from Kepler's Law. Could easily have gone backwards having bungled three out, and then been short of room. Only negative was that he needed organising at the obstacles. Should win an ordinary novice. To look at I preferred him to the winner.
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the one take out at Aintree for me was Followcato. Well in rear, got nearly upside the leaders then made a novice mistake and faded back to fourth. He looked like a stayer so with more experience and an improvement in stable form he could be very interesting.
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Couldn't get any of the 20/1 about All The Glory (1.45 Winc) last night but I'm on at a double figure price on here. There's a lot of ticks in the boxes for me, especially the going, a workable mark and coming back off a layoff. I also have some doubts about the suitability of the going for some of the others in here.
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Nicholls totally transformed today. Ah of course. It is Badger Beer day. Larchmont Lass briefly drifted to 20 or more and still looks very green. Rubaud next.
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All the Glory travelled into it nicely but didn't pick up. No excuses really so I wouldn't be in a hurry to back her again. I'm pretty sure the winner didn't appreciate the going but if course Paul would have been very keen to win that race. She looks like one to follow, especially when she gets her going
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king turgeon
awesome jumper |
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They may as well dig up the National course. It's now just another race with a bit of fancy birch. Like it or not the attraction to the viewer was the added danger element, but that's all gone. A very good jumper has next to no advantage. The sport is falling apart.
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Not sure what O'Neill has said, but it would seem strange to compare Mister Meggit with Synchronised. Synchronised was a very good plodder, he didn't do anything on the bridle. To me they would seem chalk and cheese.
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bechers brook been tweaked a bit since red rum.
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