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By:
sageform
When: 04 Nov 24 19:40
Famoso easiest winner of the day. Laughed at the rest who admittedly were a motley bunch.
By:
Regbutler
When: 04 Nov 24 23:38
Iontic cheval 2.25 Chepstow
Alistair Ralph only runner tomorrow
Stable in fine form,  horse won the race 2 years ago, been off 8 months
Bits and pieces of money for it already, trading about 6s
I've had a dabble and will monitor it tomorrow
By:
Regbutler
When: 04 Nov 24 23:39
Sorry, Warwick not Chepstow
By:
differentdrum
When: 05 Nov 24 16:36
Well Chepstow appear to have found some soft in their going description.

I should have said yesterday that I am equally surprised to see Jurancon continuing over two miles. This is surely a three-mile, soft ground chaser. To win tomorrow he will need a combination of jumping better than at Worcester, and some bonkers tactics from O'Brien. Just sitting on the front end unlikely to be good enough.
By:
sageform
When: 05 Nov 24 19:11
Not sure about Chepstow but plenty of light drizzle in Somerset today so the ground will not be changing around here.
By:
differentdrum
When: 06 Nov 24 10:46
At the moment as regards the jumps still just about living off the Josh The Boss winnings. Trying to avoid as much as possible. Even if stables are deemed to be in form you could still very easily end up on the wrong one's.

I have backed Disguisedlimit each-way in what looks much the stronger division of the novice hurdle. He made my annual list of pointers to follow. Hobbs got him for 150,000 which is about the limit for the yard. Actual form of his win is not great, but he is from the family of Bobs Worth. Trip is likely on the short side, but ridden prominently there must be a fair chance of finishing in the three. Having said that one of the rags will now step up and he will finish fourth. The stable have made a reasonable start with this type of horse, Sober Glory won a bumper at the track having been a slightly cheaper purchase.

Had it been a two-miler I think Let It Rain at 1/1 would look a decent price. I would be concerned at the market weakness. She was very good in bumpers, winning very well at Ascot (despite a poor ride), but this is very much starting again. Interesting to see how she jumps and where she is positioned. The longer trip may mean going down the dropping her out route again. Skelton doesn't need many excuses to adopt those tactics. The third favourite has been supported, but that is a shocking stable to follow.

Had a look at the bumper which has several 'winners' in it. Jimmy Hurdstrom travelled sweetly before hanging a touch left, and then quickening away. It was probably a poor race. Since purchased privately by Tony Bloom. Kingston Queen won a small field mares' point, but may only have been third, but for two last fence casualties, one of which has won a bumper at a big price since. Jordans Cross won his point nicely, kicking for home some way out, and keeping on strongly. That was on soft ground. Philippa's Choice departed at the last in another mares' point that was a burn up over the last two. She was outpaced before staying on strongly on the run to the last. It's likely she would have been placed. My inclination would be that Jimmy Hurdstrom might be the one, but I think I would rather risk Jordans Cross at 7/1 in the hope he will handle the quicker ground.
By:
differentdrum
When: 06 Nov 24 11:01
Since I wrote the above Let It Rain now 7/4. Massively weak. Perhaps Skelton can come on before and expain the drift?
By:
differentdrum
When: 06 Nov 24 12:43
The idea that the first winner is a 'good jumper'? Who's he trying to fool? If you backed that you should be filling in the lottery. The ground being softer than thought is good news for the bumper horse who has halved in price. 

Shame this Happy Valley rubbish is cluttering up the schedule again. Does it ever end?
By:
differentdrum
When: 06 Nov 24 13:00
What a surprise, market all over the Skelton favourite, and he keeps it simple. Poor old Benny Poste, 75 losers in a row, that after racking up over a 100 last year. Given the number of rides there can't be anyone on the planet with a worse strike rate. Owners must love losing.
By:
differentdrum
When: 06 Nov 24 13:30
Each-way landed with Disguisedlimit at 17/2. Unfortunately, the horse has run away with the jock, and Chepstow is the last place you want to do that. That pace (and the softish ground) has probably handed the race to Jurancon. The winner was iffy in the jumping department again. Hard to believe they won't up him in trip. Skelton horse had a nice school round. I am assuming the muppet on track will catch up with Skelton after they have all run.
By:
The Dragon
When: 06 Nov 24 13:51
taken a chance on got a dream here
By:
The Dragon
When: 06 Nov 24 13:56
french ship comfortably- market got it right
By:
differentdrum
When: 06 Nov 24 14:18
As I alluded to earlier I think Let It Rain ran over the wrong trip, particularly on that ground. She always wanted to go quicker, and was eventually outstayed. Jumping was good enough. In a way good news as they pushed her out for the Festival, and I have now added her as a second string.
By:
sageform
When: 06 Nov 24 14:50
anyone recognise the Champion Hurdle winning colours on Lucky Lugger?
By:
saxon farm
When: 06 Nov 24 15:00
Flakey Dove!
By:
sageform
When: 06 Nov 24 15:33
first prize
By:
differentdrum
When: 06 Nov 24 17:05
Two each-ways landed, but two duff rides for differing reasons. Jordans Cross was smashed up late in the bumper 7/1-9/4. I think swap the jockeys and you swap the result. Big mistake for Godfrey to make for the rail away from the actual race. I couldn't find any film of the winner so couldn't comment on him beforehand, but it's another bumper win for a small trainer who will only train a handful of winners in the season.

Will have a look at the Newbury bumper in due course, but maybe ribero can offer a steer on Brookside Lane?
By:
brandyontherocks
When: 06 Nov 24 17:48
A couple of nice novice hurdles at Chepstow today.
Jurancon stepped up from his debut at Worcester behind The Kemble Brewery. The track definitely suited him. He will come again when stepped up in trip.
Connections of the runner up, Tripoli Flyer, will be pleased with that debut.
Let It Rain was given a very confident ride by Skelton. She is held in very high regard but couldn't quite get to the race fit French Ship.
Let It Rain jumped really well and I hope she will fulfill her obvious potential.
By:
differentdrum
When: 06 Nov 24 18:23
The Newbury bumper which doesn't look the strongest for the track.

Plenty of evidence over the last couple of seasons that Henderson is now not so interested in winning these races. Perhaps the fact that this one is from the family of Bobs Worth and runs in those colours might see him buck his ideas up a bit? El Cairos looks expensive. He quickened from the second last in his point, but the runner up (a much bigger model) threw the race away by running around approaching the last. Everyone knows that he has a big negative in the saddle. Wandering Ego would have finished a closing second in his point, but for falling at the last. The form looks suspect as he would only have beaten the eventual second, Supreme George, by around a length, and that horse has bombed twice under rules for McCain. The hood first time not a great sign. With the advantage of two previous runs, Claim The Throne was made to look slow by Jordan's Cross in a soft ground point. All three runs on that surface, and unraced dam a full sister to Laurina who also liked cut. Well Presented, a nice enough pedigree, but full brother very disappointing. Trainer/jock not in good form. The dam of Brookside Lane has produced some disappointing runners, but the family does trace back to that popular old stick, Floyd. Chances are he wouldn't need to be that good to take this race.
By:
ribero1
When: 06 Nov 24 19:35
Well spotted DD,usual stuff they like him a lot etc,he's got 4 with them and they're all supposed to be fairly useful,re today what you saw was what they said about how she was going to be ridden to the letter but we still thought she'd be good enough so still had a decent bet unfortunately.Still think he's got a very decent horse there and hopefully underbet next time,re next time probably changed a bit as first words were month off before next run.
By:
differentdrum
When: 06 Nov 24 20:22
Thanks, I may back it tomorrow. In bumpers I usually prefer the comfort blanket of an each-way price. The early market move is for the Maxwell horse. Of course that could all change.

As regards Let It Rain I am assuming she will drop in trip? As I said above she came to win her race and didn't. If she's been aimed at a two-mile race in March I can't see the point in persisting over a longer trip.
By:
ribero1
When: 06 Nov 24 20:40
I would guess so,as always the market will probably be key tomorrow so if he's strong worth a bet,as today they told him the one in the last was ok,drifted like a barge and we know the rest!
By:
The Dragon
When: 06 Nov 24 21:11
ireland best jump races tomorrow. grade 2 and listed races. like favs in both
By:
differentdrum
When: 07 Nov 24 11:10
El Cairos now the outsider in the bumper after heading towards favouritism last night? It's the sort of market which suggests it's a weak race, and any of them could win.

The other race I was interested in was the mares' novice at Ludlow. It's a very weak race. I was looking to oppose the favourite. She comes from a good family, and did me a favour in bumpers, but she is small, and although I put up Affinisea as a sire to watch a couple of years ago, as yet his progeny don't appear to be the most natural jumpers. She also starts over a longer trip in a poor race. The problem is who to oppose her with. It's a bunch that requires too much guesswork, although I am not surprised that Sain Et Sauf has shortened a little. She showed nothing in points, but there was a modicum of promise in her hurdling debut, and she would have been a few lengths closer had she not bungled the last two.

A no bet day, and looking ahead I can't see too many for the rest of the week.
By:
brandyontherocks
When: 07 Nov 24 12:23
Interesting to see how Roysse runs today in the 13:05.

In both his NHF runs last year he ran in keen fashion.

First time out getting tired to finish behind future Grade 2 Aintree winner, Horaces Pearl.

He won his second start at Newbury in good style from yesterday's Chepstow winner,Jurancon.
The form of that race has worked out well with the second, fourth and ninth all winning their next start.

Hopefully he will settle better this season. Two miles looks the right starting point.
By:
sageform
When: 07 Nov 24 12:59
Hartington for me. It has shortened from 20 this morning, partly due to a non runner. The last 3 in these colours were second, first at 22/1 and 4th of 18 at 50/1.
By:
cobs101
When: 07 Nov 24 13:12
Good shout WDCool
By:
sageform
When: 07 Nov 24 13:13
Went as long as 40 in running but I didn't go back in as it looked well beat. Won easily in the end. Tizzard has them spot on. I have backed the 4 in that same ownership in the last few days and three showed a good profit. They also own War Lord but he seems to have lost his way. JPR One could win at Exeter tomorrow though.
By:
differentdrum
When: 07 Nov 24 13:15
Fingers burnt with the favourite. Bit keen, but shouldn't really have collapsed in a heap against a field like that, particularly as the second favourite ran no race at all. Plenty of Pauling's flatter to deceive. Needs to be careful as he wouldn't want to lose any more horses.
By:
sageform
When: 07 Nov 24 13:21
Long way home at Newbury but as you say, the fav should have won from where it was 2 out.
By:
MJK
When: 07 Nov 24 13:22
Said it the other day about Paulings fto's so far, most are finding little offcthe bridle when let down. He obviously thinks they can still win despite not being 100% fit (the betting seems to indicate this). Probably best waiting until a couple win.
By:
sageform
When: 07 Nov 24 13:38
The Pertemps qualifier at Newbury now down to 4 runners so all will qualify for the final. Who wants the win penalty I wonder?
By:
sageform
When: 07 Nov 24 14:13
Willie Mullins wins with the second string at Clonmel. Has that ever happened before? That is why I could never bet on those races.
By:
differentdrum
When: 07 Nov 24 14:15
Small fields, but anyone backing shorties today has had an absolute mare. One after another sunk. The one I thought about opposing will no doubt be the one that wins.
By:
in hell
When: 07 Nov 24 14:17
The Skelton fav looks a good thing here imo, should get a good lead of Mary
By:
MJK
When: 07 Nov 24 14:22
'May be having a breather'. Yeah, that's what it was, not that the horse (Mary) was floundering.
By:
differentdrum
When: 07 Nov 24 14:55
Now all of a sudden favourites can't stop winning.

Glad I didn't take on Hollygrove Cha Cha. She was in a different league to that lot. Bit scruffy up the straight, but other than that more than adequate. Also a bit bigger than I remembered. Should think they will be more than happy with that as a start. Choice now between a penalty or finding something better.

El Cairos has gone full circle in the bumper, out to 7/1 at the time of my earlier post, but now clear favourite at around 5/2. Not sure how anyone could back Maxwell with any confidence.
By:
paulo47
When: 07 Nov 24 15:37
Sage , things have changed a bit this year . The winner only of a Pertemps qualifier is the only one guaranteed a place in the final , and it needs to be within the weights at the declaration stage . Yes the first four are eligible .
By:
ribero1
When: 07 Nov 24 15:57
apparently fit and won't blow up.
By:
sageform
When: 07 Nov 24 16:04
It has always been the case that you can be ballotted out on rating. Usually 134-140 is the cut off point-hence my point about who wanted the weight rise. So American Sniper on 120 was the obvious one.
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