Fair enough punts - 9/2 will probably look good if they come for it - but as a filthy EW punter (at least that was the purpose of this specific thread) I won't risk 2 steaks (win and place) on a FTO - even from the Haggas yard (although I agree with you - they are more reliable than most FTO). I have time for each of the five trainers at the bottom end of the market and five/six "lurkers" in an eight horse race, is just too many for me. The non-runner potential just kills EW anyway (for this thread).

My typical horsey MO is Plaice Laying in Handicaps only - but if I look at this Novice Stakes race for much longer I'm going to end up Plaice Laying The Circus

Probably doesn’t classically fit but I quite like the look of the 4.15 naas

Boom

No worries - well done! (through gritted teeth)

Aftertiming I know - but I managed to Plaice lay a bit of The Circus at 1.80 and then went in again at 1.68 - but obviously that is no good for the thread (no thread bets) which is still floundering!

LOL Management... Gosden can usually find a race for them..

Glad I read your thread as I prob would have missed that winner.

Please keep posting your thoughts.. We need more of that round here!

I think I might have a shot at Egrecio 3.30 cat

1.20 newb might just fit

Ffs - I wrote what unexpectedly turned into a short book and then lost the feckin lot before I could post it! - luckily for you lot I can't be bothered to type it all out again!!! So a very summarised version is this:

15:30 Catt: Egrecio - EW single (if 8 look like running!)
16:35 Catt: Daleelaty - EW single - and it's not just because it's got a fish in it's name!
18:40 Kemp: Fiesta De Vega - EW single

I really can't be bothered to rewrite all of my rationale for these bets or the ones I eventually dodged in the 13:00, 13:20, 14:20, and 16:00.

GL Filthy Plaice Bettor and fish punsters! - Hopefully we will be able to Oyster flag to some winners and Rays a glass in celebration (I'll get me coat!).

Hi hba - I am gonna be busy for a few hours but don't take the 3.35 EW on here - have a look around for 11/4 or even 3/1! - but as I said - beware the late NR!

To understand the thread/filthy EW betting - Have a look a the 13:00 and 13;20 that I very skilfully chose not put up on the thread in the end! Feck!!!!!

In the 13:00 (over time) backing The shunter (say £5 each way) will (for various reasons) win you a lot more money than having £10 win on Tullybeg. Ignore the names and that race specifically - focus on the prices and the price that you are getting for the PLAICE in this type of race!!

Same in the 13:20 which I equally skilfully chose not to put on the thread after much deliberation!!!  Double Feck!! You don't have to bet at all but faced with a choice of (say £5) ew on Mirage Mac or £10 win on Hajoos - which approach would win you money long term??

I think (like the last time I tried to do a filthy each-way thread) I am jinxed and doomed to failure for the selections I put up on the thread - but I had a small tickle on both those races - it would have been rude (mathmatically) not to.

If the book I wrote earlier - didn't get deleted by accident  - I would have given my thoughts on the 13:00 and the 13:20 - both of which were very close to being a thread bet! Alas the forum curse ha me in it's grip I think. GL my friend.

I hope it (D'bai) runs well for you Penzance - and the very good news is - that the race is just not Filthy enough for me imo.

As such - it should Skate up for you. GL

Model Guest shortening as though somebody has been betting Martingale stakes on it!
19th time lucky? - could well be - but 7/4? - No thanks!

I do love her though for all the betting opportunities she has presented - both as a lay and as a Plaice back/Multi Plaice Banker.

Daleelaty - backed as though defeat was out of the question - but missed the break and then ridden by Dane like he had layed it or thought it was a mile race!

On the plus side - it looks like Heather/Shane landed a touch with the winner - and they seem like very lovely people

Araifjan plaiced 3rd. Mackerel!

Yesterday was pretty frustrating for the Thread with the discarded races (especially the 13:00 & 13:20) going spectacularly well and turning a huge profit - while the selected races just produced three second places!

15:30 Catt: Egrecio - EW single  2nd 11/4
16:35 Catt: Daleelaty - EW single   2nd 7/4 (7/2 when given and advised to take 3/1)
18:40 Kemp: Fiesta De Vega - EW single 2nd 10/3

I'm not convinced anyone else is reading this anyway - but hope a few people might have thought about laying Model Guest at crazy low prices.

Daily total: -1.02
Thread running total: -3.47

I'm with you on the selections today Jon - but out all day now with a family commitment:


13:05 Newb: Aerion Power Each Way Single: (plenty available at around 4.30+ in BF EW market at time of writing) - that seems a fair price as 3/1 at best with books - Mithras looks really solid imo and there is quite a bit of depth to the race (Trainer wise) but the front two set quite a high bar - both once raced - but JG's 2YO's usually ready to do themselves some kind of justice FTO and Stoute's are very rarely ready FTO (imo), so hopefully not too much between them as they both race for the second time today.
17:45 Wolv: Marching Army Each Way Single: Market hasn't really developed yet so taking 3/1. I know it's FTO and the fav looks a cert - but it doesn't look like a deep race at all and the maths make it pretty tough to pass up.

Good luck Filthy Friends and Plaice People, I'm off to the real world now!

Just the Sole selection today:

13:00 Chelm: Decisive Edge Each way Single (9/2 if you can get it!).
15:10 Ham: Was obviously a potentially interesting race but simplified by the Non-runner.

Yesterday total: -4.00
Thread running total: -7.47 - I have lost a Jumbo!

Thread going downhill faster than Franz Klammer imo

Thanks Jon - one for the good guys (at last!) - I have no doubt you were on!

It should have been the foundation/banker of some EW multiples really (1.90 about a 1.25 shot to Plaice) - but the NR in the 15:10 and a real scarcity of Non-handicaps today prevented it. Plus I really wanted to get a few squid up from the EW singles before getting into the ew multis - so it could be a long wait!

I'm still a bit gutted about not putting Mirage Mac up as a thread bet (13:20 Newbury on Friday) - it was so close to being one! - I would bet my last rolo that you were on it!

BOG on mirage mac i should say

Scholastic (4/1 ish 2nd fav) goes 1.02 in-running in the 13:35

Dufflecoat was still a runner when I looked at the race - but in fairness even if I had looked again, the race was too "Irish" for me anyway!

Nothing on the filthy EW/Plaice betting for me today,

17:15 Listowel: the Irish bumper is a "tempter" on betting shape alone - (Jesse Evans EW) - but I can resist it for various reasons.
17:00 Wolver: Looked potentially very good last night - but the Tissue/Early prices aren't there anymore (if ever). The fav (Isle of May) has enough question marks (imo) that I might have been tempted to oppose her with Eastern Delight EW at 5/2+ but that hasn't materialised and at time of writing it looks like ED might even go off fav!. Will keep an eye on the market running up to race time - but not convinced (enough) that it is just a two horse race, to get involved EW at a really short price.

GL Plaice bettors and EW thieves.