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By:
The Management
When: 30 Oct 20 12:50
Morning all - been missing in action due to an unexpected errand.

I agree on all the most likely races - I'm behind, so gonna have to bet as I go today - but probably focussing on:

12:40 Down: Maybe a two-bet to half stakes.
12:50 Uttox: The Cob.
15:55 Weth: Maybe a two-bet to half stakes.

Also vaguely/possibly interested in the 12:15 & 13:15 races - and (not filthy but interested in the 19:15 at Newc). GL all.
By:
jonmh.
When: 30 Oct 20 13:10
I;ve two bet the 12.40 and 3.55.  Also backed the cob.  I think i'll swerve this 1.15
By:
jonmh.
When: 30 Oct 20 13:11
Sorry 12.15
By:
The Management
When: 30 Oct 20 13:16
HI Jon -yeah - swerved it too.
By:
The Management
When: 30 Oct 20 13:35
12:40 - I have now done an EW  two-bet at 5/1 and 6/1 in the 12:40 Down.
By:
The Management
When: 30 Oct 20 13:36
^^^ Half Stakes only!
By:
The Management
When: 30 Oct 20 13:51
Done The Cobb (full stake EW) in the 12:50 - Market hates it though!
By:
jonmh.
When: 30 Oct 20 13:58
Nice result TM.  Hope the fav turns out to be ok.
By:
The Management
When: 30 Oct 20 13:58
Celebrations tempered by the fate of Get In The Queue. Sad
By:
The Management
When: 30 Oct 20 14:00
You must have had a good news - bad news situation when you got back from the pub last night seeing the 19:30 result?

Result LaughLaugh Massive ISP ShockedCry
By:
jonmh.
When: 30 Oct 20 14:05
Yep the result was great.  The 3.75 was a kick in the nuts.
By:
skiptoomaloumacari
When: 30 Oct 20 14:12
sad news regarding fav.....
By:
jonmh.
When: 30 Oct 20 14:13
Gone for Brave way ew 1.15 DR. Backed it on here 3.9.  Small bet unsure of the form.
By:
The Management
When: 30 Oct 20 14:14
I was happy with 3/1 Whoops - I know the fav looked REALLY solid on form/ratings - but it had already had quite a few chances. Can't help thinking that the 2/9 ISP was partly because Oisin Murphy had already won three races. The way the market developed left me feeling a combination of scared and amazed. A strange one imo - but ended well. GL mate

Gone Half-Stake EW on this 13:15; Brave Way (3/1)
By:
The Management
When: 30 Oct 20 14:26
Winner was 190 BFSP! - still - not much downside for us.

Back for the 15:55 which I'm starting to think I might swerve. GL all.
By:
The Management
When: 30 Oct 20 15:23
I completely forgot to post Yesterday's Filthy EW thread bets for Thread P&L etc:

I managed to dodge altogether a couple of races that produced winners and pretty much screwed up every race I did play, either by adding unnecessary selections (Born to Sire) Cry or taking prices at their lowest point Cry but it was still a very good day in terms of results, despite my very best efforts to wreck it!

13:50 Clon:  Envious Editor - EW - Half Steaks - 3rd at 5/2 ISP (Backed EW at average of 5/2) = -0.25
14:36 Strat: Above Suspicion - EW - 3rd at 9/4 ISP (Backed at 9/4 to win and 2/5 to place) = -0.61
15:06 Strat: When You're Ready - EW - 1st at 2/1 ISP (Backed EW at average of 5/2) = +3.00
19:30 Chelm: At Ease - EW - 1st at 5/1 ISP (Backed EW at average of just above 3/1) = + +3.60
19:30 Chelm: Born To Sire - EW - Half Steaks - 6th at 12/ ISP (Backed at average of 10/1) = -1.00

I think the above are the selections and prices that I selected/confirmed pre-race as thread bets. I'm happy to report that as markets moved - most of my average prices were quite a bit better (especially on At Ease!) - but in order to keep the thread honest, I think I have only reported on selections, stakes and prices that I posted on the thread before the races. If anyone thinks different let me know - it was a truly hectic day and I may have lost the plot at a couple of points!

Daily Thread Bet Total:  + 4.74
Running Thread Bet Total: + 12:90
By:
The Management
When: 30 Oct 20 16:22
Well done with Gumball Jon! - couldn't quite bring myself to do it as a thread bet (combination of not quite dirty enough, a few others with a possible shout and I don't really like Beginners Chases). Nice one for you though - fairly straightforward.
By:
The Management
When: 30 Oct 20 16:50
I'm going to play just one-third stakes in the 15:55 at Wetherby!

Market says the fav can't lose (although that is my favourite kind of marketLove) and there seems to be rule that everything that has run in the Cheltenham Bumper has to win its subsequent races!

I've had a good day and would prefer to stop (bar the 19:15 later) - but it would seem rude not to have a bet on the maths alone - so one-third stakes EW on both Heart Of A Lion (currently 15/2 ish EW market here) and Buzz De Turcoing (9 or 10/1 ish EW market here). GL all - but it has the "feel" to me of a race where the fav and two rags might fill the frame.
By:
skiptoomaloumacari
When: 30 Oct 20 17:00
a bit lucky there Blush
By:
The Management
When: 30 Oct 20 17:10
Yeah - but it goes both ways Skip and it evens (especially National Hunt) - take it gladly when it goes our way.....


............ and moan like hell when it doesn't Grin
By:
The Management
When: 30 Oct 20 18:00
Todays Filthy EW thread bets summary:

12:40 Down: Legacy Thor - EW - Half Steaks - 3rd at 9/2 ISP (Backed EW at average of 5/1) = 0.00
12:40 Down: Pats Pick - EW - Half Steaks - 2nd at 13/2 ISP (Backed EW at average of 6/1) = + 0.10
12:50 Uttox:The Cob - EW  - Full Steak - 1st at 4/1 ISP and BFSP of 9.20! (Backed EW at average of 4/1) = + 4.80
13:15 Down: Brave Way - EW - Half Steaks - 3rd at 11/4 ISP (Backed EW at average of 3/1) =  - 0.20
15:55 Weth: Heart Of A Lion - EW - Third Steaks - 8th at 6/1 ISP (Backed EW at average of 15/2) = - 0.67
15:55 Weth: Buzz De Turcoing - EW - Third Steaks - 3rd at 13/2 ISP (Backed EW at average of 9/1) = + 0.27

Daily Thread Bet Total:  + 4.30
Running Thread Bet Total: + 17.20


19:15 Newcastle still looks like an EW play of some kind for me - but it won't be a Filthy Each Way Thread Bet.
Well played filthsters and GL!
By:
jonmh.
When: 30 Oct 20 18:04
Cheers TM.. I imagine the 7.15 revolves around Model Guest?
By:
jonmh.
When: 30 Oct 20 18:04
Cheers TM.. I imagine the 7.15 revolves around Model Guest?
By:
jonmh.
When: 30 Oct 20 18:05
Cheers TM.. I imagine the 7.15 revolves around Model Guest?
By:
The Management
When: 30 Oct 20 18:19
Yes Jon - I do love Model Guest and would love her to win one but she seems like one of those horses that runs just a tiny bit worse than whatever you put her up against - be it fairly decent horses or moderate ones - so if she keeps shortening - opposing her with something EW seems the way to go imo.

Trouble is (although I think the drop to 7f is a very big plus), the most obvious alternative, Turaath, has a disappointing profile herself and might even be a dodge-pot (headgear candidate imo). The Gosden horse is FTO (could be anything and one of only a handful of trainers I will do FTO) and the next three in the betting - Dafinah, Tefnut and even Luckyangel (at a huge price) could all potentially improve drastically. Not really committed to anything yet but the Hills/Buick one looks the most obvious or a small EW. Won't go mad either way because it would actually please me if Model Guest were to win!
By:
jonmh.
When: 30 Oct 20 18:31
GL TM.  I'm off for a beer while I still can.  Tier 3 looms large in this Parish.
By:
The Management
When: 30 Oct 20 18:35
It's not Filth Jon - and for all the reasons above ^^ it's probably best left alone.

My record on this thread when going "off piste" isn't great! - to be honest it's not all that great when I stay on piste!Grin

I just have a bit of an obsession with Model Guest and a few other maiden fillies with similar profiles.
By:
The Management
When: 30 Oct 20 18:36
Enjoy Jon - catch up tomorrow.
By:
The Management
When: 30 Oct 20 22:42
Poor old Model Guest - I felt a bit sorry for her tonight (missed the break and unplaced at 2/1 fav) - Not a filthy race - but the Hills/Buick horse (Turaath) won quite easily at 3/1, so that was nice!

Tomorrows likely looking filthy EW shortlist (imo) -

13:00 Wetherby - possibly - definitely worth a check
13:15 Down Royal - possibly - definitely worth a check
16:10 Down Royal - unlikely - but worth a check
20:00 Wolves: Almost Certainly
20:30 Wolves; Highly likely
By:
skiptoomaloumacari
When: 31 Oct 20 10:25
Looks like i will have to go out on serious collection day today tomorrow ,monday .......All betting shops will be shut from next week.........Cry
By:
skiptoomaloumacari
When: 31 Oct 20 12:49
had to have a go at URBAN VIOLET.............most go well........
By:
The Management
When: 31 Oct 20 12:53
Have a good one Skip!

Looking in more depth today - I have now gone off the Down Royal races at 13:15 and 16:10 - both have a nice shape with odds-on favs - but I don't have an angle or a strong view about what to take them on with and would struggle to commit to two ew selections, let alone one ew selection to oppose the favs with - I expect I will swerve both those races.

Still interested in:

13:00 Wetherby: Brief Ambition - but would want a bit bigger than current price.
14:32 Ascot: Fearless & Addis Ababa - possible two-bet - but maybe half-stakes as a lot of potential "lurkers" imo
20:00 Wolves: Galahad Threepwood
20:30 Wolves: Marietty

GL filthsters!
By:
The Management
When: 31 Oct 20 12:57
A cracking start to your day Skip - well done! Grin
By:
jonmh.
When: 31 Oct 20 13:33
Afternoon chaps.  Well done on Urban Violet skip.

I've backed both the filthy ones at Wolves so far.  That could be all I do today but we shall see.

GL
By:
The Management
When: 31 Oct 20 14:00
Looking similar here too Jon.

Swerved the 13:00 Wetherby - price too short (in context of the race).
By:
The Management
When: 31 Oct 20 14:15
Happy with that - gave the fav a scare (albeit only very briefly) and went 1.05 in the Plaice market (in-running) - but overall a satisfactory swerve.

Swerved the 13:15 at Down Royal now - but it is a very intriguing (betting) race - will watch only.
By:
The Management
When: 31 Oct 20 15:31
I have been dripping into the 14:32 Ascot market (EW market on here) and have now done a half-stakes EW two-bet on:

Fearless - average price of 5.15
Addis Ababa - average price 7.00 - drifting horribly & suspiciously (to unusually large money in a usually p1ss poor market for early liquidity Shocked)

Sorry for after-timing my prices (although at least one of them will likely go off bigger anyway!) - but I am always going to prioritise my own P&L.
By:
The Management
When: 31 Oct 20 15:39
RIP Addis Ababa Sad
By:
The Management
When: 31 Oct 20 17:05
Swerved doing anything EW against Sir Gerhard in the 16:00 Down Royal - but I have laid Sir Gerhard (at 1.36) in the win market as an alternative. Counting it as a thread bet - equivalent to a win back of the rest of the field at 11/4. GL filthsters.
By:
The Management
When: 31 Oct 20 17:07
Sorry ^^ 16:10 race at Down Royal - not 16:00!
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