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By:
kirk st. moritz
When: 09 Mar 10 21:12
Only a month til this!!!

Last year the Imprudence was won by subsequent French Classic winner Elusive Wave, who went on to win the Pouliches, while Le Havre lifted the Prix du Jockey-Club after his Djebel victory.

Both races will run at Maisons-Laffitte on April 8 over a straight 7f - and Stan James 1,000 Guineas favourite Special Duty is expected to make her seasonal debut in the Imprudence.
By:
Prima Donna
When: 09 Mar 10 21:30
Good I like S.Duty a lot think she has a great chance.
By:
jamesp
When: 09 Mar 10 22:32
Ladbrokes have not only reinstated Lillie Langtry at 14/1 but have reintroduced Cabaret at 20/1. Still too early to say which will prove to be Ballydoyle's number one filly at Newmarket. Devoted To You is another possible. None of them is good enough to trouble Special Duty in any case!
By:
ben10
When: 09 Mar 10 23:02
Prima Donna 09 Mar 22:30
Good I like S.Duty a lot think she has a great chance.


Don't say we agree on something :0
By:
Prima Donna
When: 10 Mar 10 05:10
Ben,thank god we do!
By:
TIROL1982
When: 10 Mar 10 14:57
Any one going over to France to see the race live on 8th April ?
By:
Punterbaker
When: 10 Mar 10 23:47
Will show the race live on tv, so why waste time and effort???
By:
zilzal1
When: 10 Mar 10 23:48
Will this be the 1st ever thread to get to one thousand posts for a horse thats not favourite for a classic???
By:
kirk st. moritz
When: 11 Mar 10 06:55
Is is more a general Guineas thread now tbh
By:
TIROL1982
When: 11 Mar 10 08:52
Still happy with my selections for the race. Still haven't seen a better 6f performance all last year than the Middle Park. Just hope Hamdan gives him his chance. He sure does derserve his crack at the 2,000gns.
By:
penzance
When: 11 Mar 10 09:39
any news on Arcano? had a good wager on this.tx
By:
TIROL1982
When: 11 Mar 10 15:21
Could easilly see ARCANO going to FRANCE, as HAMDAN unlikely to run both AZWAAN and ARCANO in the same Guineas. With previous French experience ARCANO the Favourite to go to France.
By:
Stormbird
When: 11 Mar 10 16:58
Treble Jig. What What !
By:
jamesp
When: 11 Mar 10 17:43
I don't agree, TIROL1982. Sheikh Hamdan tends to go along with what his trainers want to do. There are plenty of examples of big races where he has had two or more fancied runners. In the 2000 Guineas, for example, he ran Finjaan and Ouqba (2009), Nayef and Munir (2001), Marju and Mukaddamah (1991), Elmaamul and Rami (1990). There are plenty of other examples: he has often had two or more runners in the 1000 Guineas and the other classics. I reckon both Arcano and Awzaan will go to Newmarket.
By:
Stormbird
When: 11 Mar 10 18:54
Steinbeck looks DOOMED if the Betfair market for the 2000 Guineas is anything to go by. You cannot give him away !
By:
kirk st. moritz
When: 11 Mar 10 19:28
Re Steinbeck

essexguy 10 Mar 11:31


wouldnt worry , i laid it to my mate just to get market moving, i know we lose out on commision but thats how we work the market.
By:
kirk st. moritz
When: 11 Mar 10 19:29
Are you his mate?
By:
kirk st. moritz
When: 11 Mar 10 19:30
Sweeping up those 2 quids must have cost you :D
By:
Prima Donna
When: 11 Mar 10 19:34
Stormbird 11 Mar 19:54
Steinbeck looks DOOMED if the Betfair market for the 2000 Guineas is anything to go by. You cannot give him away !



He is!Ive spent weeks telling Kirk,Ben10 and Push this!
By:
Punterbaker
When: 11 Mar 10 21:27
jamesp,I Stand by my opinion that Arcano will more likely be in the French 2,000gns. His run there last year shows you which way the wind blows.
By:
jamesp
When: 12 Mar 10 06:45
I don't think there's any particular significance in the fact that Arcano went over to France for the Prix Morny. Canford Cliffs also went over for the race, but he's not heading for the French Guineas. The 2000 Guineas is a much more prestigious race than the French Guineas and I'm confident that Arcano will line up at Newmarket.
By:
TIROL1982
When: 12 Mar 10 11:41
What on earth has Canfords run in france got to do with anything? Hamdan will decide from his runners. Not taking into account Hannons runners. The only reason Hamdan would have both in the 2,000gns would be if Godolphin had No viable runner.
By:
jamesp
When: 12 Mar 10 11:51
I was responding to Punterbaker, who seems to be of the view that Arcano is more likely to run in the French Guineas rather than the Newmarket Guineas, on the basis that "his run there last year shows you which way the wind blows". I referred to Canford Cliffs in order to debunk the argument that a previous run in France should be construed as possible evidence that a horse is being prepared for a cross-channel classic challenge. Needless to say, whatever course of action CC's connections decide upon has no bearing on what Sheikh Hamdan decides to do with his colts. As I have already mentioned, Sheikh Hamdan is not at all averse to running two or more fancied horses in the same race, so there is no reason to believe that he will decide to run only one of his two top colts (Arcano and Awzaan) at Newmarket.
By:
penzance
When: 12 Mar 10 15:57
if fit Arcano will run at HQ,imo.
By:
Punterbaker
When: 12 Mar 10 16:25
OH ! HAMDAN HAS JOINED THE CONVERSATION. CAN WE HAVE THAT IN ARABIC PLEASE.
By:
Stormbird
When: 12 Mar 10 16:31
Any news on Steinbeck? ;)
By:
kirk st. moritz
When: 12 Mar 10 16:38
Yes some shifty chaps are laying the 2 quids hoping someone will think it is out and offer them ludicrous prices for it. Hope this helps ;)
By:
essexguy
When: 12 Mar 10 16:47
that can be right
By:
Stormbird
When: 12 Mar 10 16:48
Unquantifiably KSM.
By:
penzance
When: 12 Mar 10 16:57
lol Punterbaker.
By:
TIROL1982
When: 12 Mar 10 18:52
Someone laying STEINBECK. They have layed me 20 & 22 to bits and pieces. ???
By:
essexguy
When: 12 Mar 10 23:03
is it true, people are saying steinbeck is a doubtful ruuner at newmarket , on account of having to much weight to carry?
seems to have the weight of a few people on this forum, maybe it just to much. all the talk about he a cert for some people. now they seem to change their minds. have faith in your convictions, dont change your mine on account of a couple of people playing the prices.You wouldnt make good poker players some of you.
By:
TIROL1982
When: 12 Mar 10 23:24
essexguy, your right I'll keep taking the 20.21.22, while they are willing to lay me. What part of Essex you from?
By:
TIROL1982
When: 12 Mar 10 23:26
I don't fancy the beast, BUT at 20 + must be a play .
By:
Punterbaker
When: 13 Mar 10 01:32
I KNOW A FRED THAT WILL GET ON YER NERVES.GET GET GET ON YER NERVES
By:
kirk st. moritz
When: 13 Mar 10 01:43
You havent told us why in particular this thread gets on your nerves ... how it effects your bet in other words.
By:
TIROL1982
When: 13 Mar 10 20:38
Lots of big prices flying around in the 2,000gns market..In many cases best for three months!
By:
TIROL1982
When: 14 Mar 10 00:13
The laying has subsided a bit and they are not as keen to lay the 21. Only about 50 pounds available at prices bigger than the high street boys.
By:
TIROL1982
When: 15 Mar 10 02:36
A GOOD BET FOR THE IRISH Guineas....See where he runs and then GO GO GO.
By:
unclepuncle
When: 19 Mar 10 15:55
Apparently he has 'met a small setback; and is unlikely to make New'mkt - what a shock that is - NOT!!!
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