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clarethebear 09 Jul 23:43
Didn't someone "discover" a similar laying system about a year ago and posted it on here ? Laying all the Naps on the RP Naps table I think it was. That caused lots of comments one way and the other, but by the time the dust had settled all those who followed that "false god" had burned more than their fingers. If there was a system that was based on the prices paid in here or any where else, surely the last thing to do would be to tell everyone, or even anyone about it, you'd simply be driving up the odds against you showing a profit. Good luck with it Kef40 but for the time that you'll need to run this "system" you'd likely be better off with a paper round, at least that money is guarenteed. One last thing, early on in the thread you said something about getting this "idea" from a Professional ? I'm curious who that could be, and why anyone would give away a goose that might lay a golden egg ? If you want an interesting little "system" then I have what might be a better one for you. First of all I prefer to bet rather than to lay, and I do that by backing every Fav in every race, across the boards and across the continents {backing US and Ozzie races} to win a specific amount, a tenner actually. I have a Bot that does this for me, figured out what I need to beton the Fav in each and every race to win a tenner, you'd be surprised how many days shows a decent profit. Most days are neither here nor there, some days are bad days that's for sure, but over the last few months I'm up more than a few quid, and more than I expected to be. Mind you, now that I've let that cat out of the bag I may well have shot myself in the proverbial, it don't take much to change the odds especially in the US races... Bottom line is, don't go looking for the Holy Grail, there aint one to be found. Bet what you can afford, think of it as entertainment, don't think you can Bank on it, or build a Bank from it. The only way to finish up with a small fortune by betting or laying, is to start off with a large fortune... ======================================================= So basically you ain't got the "holy grail" ...............................trouble is ...................even when you have it.............................it is not "easy" for a mere mortal to know how to use it!!!!!! I've probably spent 5/6 months analysing results for my "holy grail" covering just about 4 months...............and when you have the HG, it is not "easy" to separate wheat from chaff............. Now I have at least 8 ways to use my system to make profit...........ranging from 3% ROI to over 150% ROI...........................................BUT I ain't put what I know into practice yet!!!!!! I will do......................in NOVEMBER 2009..................if i am still alive...............not sure how much I want to make from having the HG..........................minimum £1,000 a day seems reasonable to me ........................numerous choices on how to make good ROI.................and when faced with such choices, it ain't "easy" to know what path to take...................not being a "professional " with heeps of experience to rely on, every day is a learning day.....even when possessing the HG ...................... So .....clarethebear , let me assure you that the HG does "exist"..................................but knowing how to use it is something that even the "best" of the "best" , whoever they are ( I believe it is meeeeeeeeee..............]:) )..................would find it not "easy" to see how to do so.................. Just thought I would annoy you by posting the opinion that I have the HG.......................it does exist !!!!!!!! G M the noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo PS I can't do anything to help ENGLAND or SCOTLAND raise their level with regards to football at international level ....................other suggest that a trip is organised for males from ENGLAND and SCOTLAND ( separate transport probably advisable............................) who are intelligent athletes ............................not too many of those in either country attempting to play football.......( ij a beautiful way !!!!).....................to go to BRAZIL / ARGENTINA/ CHILE etc etc .................. places where small people are recognised as having ability COUNT well above big thick eeeeeeeeejjjjjjiiiiiiittttttttttttsssssssssssss....what we have got STILL being chosen to play the beautiful game ....when THEY AIN'T got the ability , drive etc etc ...to do that......ie they are too THICK........................................... to be able to do that! So clarethebear .........................................you just stick in your world where you do not believe the HG exists.................................the more people that believe that the better it is for me..................................]:) G M the nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
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kef4o-Overall a good thread. Anybody able to sort the Wheat from the Chaff would have been able to draw some positives from it. Thanks and GL.
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dfcironman.
I guess there's always someone who knows it all, always someone who professes to have the holy grail, and those daft enough to listen to them, give yourself a pinch, your dreaming in technicolour. If you really held the holy grail what the hell are you doing in here ? wouldn't you be sipping G&T's on a cruise ship somewhere ! rather than signing on. Seen it all in here, dreamers and pretenders, all trying to massage their ego in public, claiming to know what the rest of us don't. Get a grip dfc, or folks will thing your a Daft Fekkin Cnut... |
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:D :D :D ......looks like I succeeded in winding you in CTB :D :D :D
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Get a grip dfc, or folks will thing your a Daft Fekkin Cnut...
Claret, people already know that. |
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Shame this thread has ended.
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'fraid you didn't DFC {what a signature hey, looks like you didn't think that one through either}, LOL...
It takes more than a Dumb Fekkin Cnut to annoy me, like Blackpool is written through rock, we are all knee deep in r soles like you who think they "know it all", and can't resist telling the rest of us how fekkin clever they are... I'll bet you can talk a good fcuk too, another all trouser and no snake. |
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Going very well today
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clarethebear 09 Jul 23:43
Didn't someone "discover" a similar laying system about a year ago and posted it on here ? Laying all the Naps on the RP Naps table I think it was. That caused lots of comments one way and the other, but by the time the dust had settled all those who followed that "false god" had burned more than their fingers. If there was a system that was based on the prices paid in here or any where else, surely the last thing to do would be to tell everyone, or even anyone about it, you'd simply be driving up the odds against you showing a profit. Good luck with it Kef40 but for the time that you'll need to run this "system" you'd likely be better off with a paper round, at least that money is guarenteed. I remember those clarethe bear as there was a whole raft of ideas, which were often spin-offs from 'in the trenches' thread. There were variations tested such as "would it pay to Lay the nap in the Win market but back it in the Place market." As has been posted by others, if it was so simple (and consistent over time) to simply lay the RP nap, everybody would be doing it. From the comments here, I gather yesterday was a 'bad' day but today was a 'good' day and I suspect it would continue in that vein. I suggested two possible filters for investigation but kef4o said he didn't have the time. But unfortunately on Betfair - as I and most others have found - unless you serve your apprenticeship.... |
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Anyone notice how quiet this golden goose topic has gone today !
Just had a quick look and it seems as though Spotlight has had a stream of good priced winners. You can bet some folks have burned more than their finders today. What folks can't see is that laying any "tipster" isn't much different to laying any horse in any race. If you think that laying horse's that hasn't been in the frame recently, ie, Spotlight having a bad run, don't be surprised when the tide turns against you. On a few days a week you can win some modest amounts, but on the other days you can lose your shirt betting against a tide of winners that can hit you like a Tsunami. I appreciate Kef4o's write up, but the system is flawed and dangerous to those who think this is the Holy Grail. Not to mention the DFCnuts who profess that they have it all figured out, yet can't put an adult sentence together when debating any topic. There's some sorry asses in here, the problem is, a forum gives equal voice to the gobshytes as it does to folks worth listening to. Think it through, IF there wa a "system" that won money on a regular basis the bloke who owned it would be keeping his mouth tightly shut, he certainly wouldn't be posting it in here, or anywhere else, nor would he be "telling his mates about it over a pint". If you're daft enough to think that such systems exist then you'll be daft enough to follow folks who profess to "know it all" and there's no shortage of them in here. Bottom line of all this is, bet for fun or entertainment, try to make money long term and you'll finish up ragged r'st. |
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not something i've ever looked at tbh CTB laying one persons selections , you would guess though spotlight would at least put some work into the selections as it's their "paid job" as opposed to the majority of daily newspaper tipsters who seem to be solely judged on their nap ( which they are forced to pick by tea time the previous day ) rather than the daily p/l.
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clarethebear - Your first post on this thread made the bold statement -
Bottom line is, don't go looking for the Holy Grail, there aint one to be found. You then follow your arrogance up by stating - clarethebear 10 Jul 14:22 dfcironman. I guess there's always someone who knows it all, always someone who professes to have the holy grail, and those daft enough to listen to them, give yourself a pinch, your dreaming in technicolour. If you really held the holy grail what the hell are you doing in here ? wouldn't you be sipping G&T's on a cruise ship somewhere ! rather than signing on. Seen it all in here, dreamers and pretenders, all trying to massage their ego in public, claiming to know what the rest of us don't. Get a grip dfc, or folks will thing your a Daft Fekkin Cnut... ================================= You are the one stating there is no such thing as the HG.......................not me..............therefore you apparently are the " know all "clarethebear !!!!!!! ================================================== clarethebear 10 Jul 20:37 'fraid you didn't DFC {what a signature hey, looks like you didn't think that one through either}, LOL... It takes more than a Dumb Fekkin Cnut to annoy me, like Blackpool is written through rock, we are all knee deep in r soles like you who think they "know it all", and can't resist telling the rest of us how fekkin clever they are... I'll bet you can talk a good fcuk too, another all trouser and no snake. ======================================================= I'm not stating I am clever ................but I am stating you are just showing how ignorant you are by coming out with statements based on you dismissing out of hand that the HG does not exist .......how the feck would you know whether it does or not ????? You are the one that came on here boldly stating "Bottom line is, don't go looking for the Holy Grail, there aint one to be found " .......................so you just stick to being just another ignorant person........who likes to spout their empty head off. Naturally you believe you are the one worth listening to CTB........................and, of course, you can clearly prove the HG does not exist..........................NOT! Making bold statements that the HG does not exist............................is true for you.........but do not expect anyone that disagrees with you to accept your mistaken belief.......it won't happen. Trying to murky the waters by making sexual comments as well won't improve what you have stated.....just demonstrates how arrogant and ignorant you are. ========================================== GL kevo with your bets. |
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Sorry GL kef4o
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Soime folks are just plain fekkin stoopid, your claim to have the Holy Grail just shows what a *illock you are.
Who would claim to have "the Holy Grail" yet still be 'signing on", shows you for what you are! A real DFC, who thinks he can add strength to his arguement by writing in bold letters, what a twit. Best part is how didn't have the brains or the wit to have thought through your DFC prefix, DFClittleman would probably be more appropriate ! |
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Hope you lads have a good day :)
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Take up tennis and play nicely with each other...
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claret ---get f'd u donut puncher :^0
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From 1st July 2009 laying Spotlight selections to win £10 (cumulative totals).
31-JuL -£30 31-Aug +£69 30-Sep +£19 31-Oct -£210 30-Nov -£528 31-Dec -£698 Time to start or increase stake, it can't go on losing... ]:) |
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Seems like desperate stuff to me. Especially in view of the number of races involved, it's hard to believe losses are down to chance.
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Come on then, give all you have. ;) I had serious try in early September. I think that somewhere in the second week I came to the conlusion that due to two key factors it's impossible to make profit with it.
1) comission 2) I generally had prices 1 or 2 ticks worse. So, it's impossible to make profit neither by laying, nor by backing. I couldn't find the reason, dumped it, moved on. Thanks for the stats though, Tightfisted. |
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It goes to prove there are no 'point and click' bets.
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Kef40 Spotlight has a selection in every race , every day, every month , every year , . backing or laying in every race you will do your brains ... back some , lay some , miss plenty . thats the way to go .
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Whilst I agree with you,zip, I can't do it.
I don't have: 1) enough knowledge(I haven't even been to a race course.) 2) enough experience(I guess that a sport as complicated as this one might take upto 5 years to master both flat and jumping to a reasonable elvel.) 3) enough time(I have tried studing, very hard too. But I just can't devote 1-2 hours every single day bar four in the calendar year.) |
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1-2 hours ?? you joking
might get you one race sorted |
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Time to start or increase stake, it can't go on losing... ]:)
While the other 'experts' were shooting at dead ducks, you could have been heeding my advice, Kef... Ling 12:30...0...95 ...+95 ...Style Award Ling 13:00...0...95 ...190 ...Divine Force Sthl 13:15...0...95 ...285 ...Boy The Bell Ling 13:30...0...95 ...380 ...Fromsong Sthl 13:45...0...95 ...475 ...Dontuwi**wereso Ling 14:00...0...95 ...570 ...Sunset Boulevard Sthl 14:15...0...95 ...665 ...Royal Dignitary Ling 14:30...0...95 ...760 ...Waldvogel Ling 15:00...0...95 ...855 ...On Terms Sthl 15:15...1..-90 ...765 ...Obe Gold Ling 15:30...0...95 ...860 ...Alfie Tupper Sthl 15:45...0...95 ...955 ...Fongoli Ling 16:00...0...95 ..1050 ...Wunder Strike |
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Sorry, didn't follow today's racing. Are those lays for today? And wasn't there just one track open? Where do you post your advice anyway?
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Forget it, Kef, stick to tennis or whatever, you saved yourself a lot of money by stopping early.
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From 1st July 2009 laying Spotlight selections to win £10 (cumulative totals).
31-JuL -£30 31-Aug +£69 30-Sep +£19 31-Oct -£210 30-Nov -£528 31-Dec -£698 Tightfisted Are those figures LAYING Betfair SP and Net of 5% Commission ? |
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isn't this the same " system " attempted by IQMJ earlier last year ?
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+£996 @ BfSP :)
-£698 @ BfSP - 5% comm :( |
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Don't think so.... IQMJ - IQBF?
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