Good luck with this kef4o.

STP
where the hell did you get all those spotlight horses from ???

http://www.besttipping.com**tipcheck/?action=tipster&tips=all&id=15

so if anybody asks you how to win 70k+ on here, tell them to lay the spotlight selections to £100 unit stakes :D

Tomorrow's unit will be 62 cent.

Well, everything is set, it looks like there might one horse that I will not have a bet due to a price higher than 11. I have a bad feeling about today. I hope I'm wrong. Holiday, it'd be great if you kept a simple flat stakes total profit and loss count. It's easier for people to see how are you performing.

I tested the stats on this for a 1 year period last year, That webiste use to have the stats listed for a year, seems like just a couple of months now.

Spotlight does suck, but be warned with your staking plan, that they had an 8 winner out of 12 starts run at one time.

Thanks for the info, corbchenko. It sure would suck if that happened. I'd say that's upto 2 months recovery provided the system performed within my average expectations. This is exactly why I opened this thread. Now I know that I'll have to come here and share this with everyone. It will be very painful but I'll have to shrink my unit size considerably and NOT CHASE. Stop loss isn't going to work for me since I could never be sure that the next horses will win/lose. It's about longterm performance this. Very long one indeed. Provided the system earns a minimum of 1 unit per day, and it accumulates the winnnings I'd need to stick to this for the interesting amount of 888 days to reach 10 000 euros bank. Then I'd start withdrawing. 886 day to go! :P

My gut feeling was right. Another bad day. Losers:

Ovthenight@3.45

Velvet Band@2.18

Shiwawa@2.84

My learned friend@2.4

Little lu@3.65

Nesnaas@7.2

Itsher@1.62

10/18, horrible strike rate, yet if it wasn't for Nesnaas, I'd have been a winner today.

Units lost: 5.85

Total growth: -1%, didn't see that coming after the first day. I was hoping to be at least 1.5% ahead.

New unit:0.6

Thanks John. Well, this idea first struck when I went to the betduck, and saw that they offer this neat service of collecting all the tips from the newspapers. A few clicks later, and I was hit in the face by the giant losses one would accoumulate over 360 days backing the selections at exchange prices. First, I tried with postdata but wasn't disciplined enough. I am sure I started wtih postdata b/c it was performing worse at the time(2 weeks ago or so...). Then I found a 'professional' who pointed this as a possible system for automated software use. Now you say that a third person has previously done a similar thing. All good sings so far. Sadly, the results aren't what I was hoping for. I also missed two horses today due to the fact that they went off too high. Otherwise I would heve been even. Oh well, there's always tomorrow.

kef4o

have you checked how he performs with just laying his nap selection

bloody hell aces ---hes not got 300 yrs left on the planet

You're welcome any time, mate. If you want to try something yourself, I'd suggest opening a thread yourself. I'm actually kicking myself for not opening any thread like this earlier. Part of the reason behind it maybe was because I was having problems with the staking. It's actually still not safe enough. And I can't lay all the horse thus dropping value. But this way I'm supposedly accelerating the time needed to reach my goal as of now. 885 days to go, and I'm actually already 5 days behing schedule. DON'T LOSE YOUR HEAD, keep with the plan.

You're welcome but please enlighten me what does the acronym 'SAW' mean when you use it?

fouraces

"have you checked how he performs with just laying his nap selection"

There are several journalists that supply the Spotlight tips in the Racing Post. For example last Friday when I began highlighting the Spotlight tips that were beaten favourites last time out there were a total of eight journalists covering the day's six meetings. They are named below together with the meeting they covered and the number of selections made.

Salisbury
Stuart Redding 4 selections
Ben Osborne 2 selections

Warwick
Ben Osborne 2 selections
Steven Boow 3 selections
Alistair Whitehouse-Jones 2 selections

Haydock
Paul Johnson 4 selections
Alistair Whitehouse Jones 2 selections

Sandown
Steven Boow 1 selection
Adrian Cook 5 selections

Doncaster
Steven Boow 1 selection
Graham Wheldon 6 selections

Beverley
David Moon 5 selections
Ben Osborne 1 selection

There is a nap selection at each meeting plus a nap selection that is entered in the Racing Post Naps Competition. I don't know how they decide who is responsible for the nap selection at each meeting or the one that is supplied for the Naps Competition but here are last Friday's results.

Salisbury 9.10 Some Sunny Day (Ben Osborne) LOST
Warwick 4.20 Miss Hollybell (Steven Boow) LOST
Haydock 9.20 Bollin Judith (Paul Johnson) LOST
Sandown 4.00 Confront (Adrian Cook) LOST
Doncaster 3.35 French Applause (Graham Wheldon) LOST
Beverley 6.20 Dark Ranger (David Moon) LOST

Racing Post Naps Competition selection

Doncaster 3.35 French Applause (Graham Wheldon) LOST

Hope this helps.

Last year when the irish guys bought rp and announced that they were going to charge for the info online i got the paper every day and put not only spotlight but all their tipsters into a spreadsheet.It came up with interesting info.What you need to watch for is who is wrighting spotlight as you will find their results differ vastly.

Yeah, that'd be problem. I have no clue how to find out who is responsible for the spotlight tips of the day. I gues I'll stick to 'lay em all' strategy. This is a quote from freetipster.co.uk:

The logic was simple - the spotlight tipster has to pick a horse in every race when normally there are many races youd leave alone, so of course his strike rate and returns will suffer because of this. Also it is an opinion listened to by a lot of punters meaning his picks will often be over bet and go off at shorter prices, meaning you get long term value.

If I try to weed out the winners chances are, I'll mess it up.

The 8/1 is a different system, which is again easy to implement, but I just chose this oe instead, mainly to the fact that I have objective statsitics for the last 360 days of which I can make sense as to what my expectation should be. It should work just like this one should work but I don't have historical results.

but are you coming from a backing or laying perspective?

theonlywayforward 05 Jul 22:59
Is your objetive to make a profit? If so then you must understand the system you are playing.It is easy to know who writes spotlight but this will not help you in your persuit.There are more prifitable tipsters in the paper than spotlight.Trying to help you but not giving away to much info as it took a long while to ascertain which were actually worth fowolling.

Of course it is. But I can't devote any time for research right now. If I'm not satisfied with the results, I might try and look for a better perspective. Thank you for the tip, I'll take it into account if I feel the need to. I totally undertand why you wouldn't want to just give away the information, and you are doing the right thing.

sweetchildofmine 05 Jul 23:02
but are you coming from a backing or laying perspective?

I'm thinking as a layer. But I have an idea how to roughly transform the numbers from the trable into the average expescted profit if I'd layed all the selections. It's far from what is actually shown on there. You wouldn't make 70k within a year with 100 flat stakes but it's still worth it.