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if you're single, white and no kids forget it.
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Disgraceful comment taxi
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Is it?
Have you ever tried to get a council house in east London? |
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Er.....no !
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That was a speedy exit for Facts.
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Exit ? I was just exclaiming as to why an earth I would wish to get a council house in East London !
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Enlighten me then, as you've never tried to get a council flat in east London, you have no idea what you're talking about.
What makes my comment disgraceful? |
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Because it's racist , stupid !
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I believe he was commenting re his belief that if you are not of anglo saxon origin , i.e. not white, then you are likely to receive preferential treatment at times when it comes to social housing.
If such preferential treatment does exist then it is that that is racist, not voicing your concern re it's potential existence. |
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And anyone who thinks only white people are racist need to stop viewing non-whites through the rose tinted view of the pages of the Guardian.
In my own first hand experience they are just as prone to it as whites. |
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If you disclose that you "sofa surf" you'll never get a flat.
In my "lost years" I lived in a car and survived on cornflakes with water. Now live in the sticks, 2 mins from the golf course, which just happens to be a predominantly white area. I live in a car - UK Subs (been there done that) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcyYi8JRfs4 |
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Facts 13 Sep 14 08:25
Because it's racist , stupid ! A bloke in a dart league I used to play in got married and had 2 kids. They got a 2 bed council flat, after a short while they had a third child. Some time later they had a 4th child, and went to Newham Council to ask for a larger property. He was in full time employment in East London Cemetery. They were put 'on the housing list' Time went by and they had two more children, but still no offer of a larger property. As you can imagine it was getting crowded as the children grew older. Meanwhile, another dart league player told him that him and his crew were building two new 5 bed council houses not far from the cemetery. He went to the housing dept, and asked to have his name put down for one of them. He was told that some properties will most probably remain empty for 'emergencies'. He asked 'Isn't 6 children in a 2 bedroomed flat an emergency?' Apparently not. The fully employed white man with 6 kids had run out of room. The eldest two daughters went to live with their gran and grandad about a quarter of a mile away. (This was many years before the 'bedroom tax' arrived, or they may have had to move to a smaller property. Which would have meant that the 2 daughters would have to stay in an overcrowded flat, or perhaps be put into care) The white bloke and his wife didn't believe in contraception, and if kids arrived, they arrived. The two 5 bed houses had tenants in them within three weeks of completion. They weren't housed there as 'emergencies' waiting to go somewhere else, they never moved out. Both families were asians. |
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The obese racist Diane Abbott on the late night political slot with Michael Portaloo and Andrew Neill.
I was in my constituency surgery when a man came in and shouted 'Why do all the council houses go to immigrants?' How did the fragrant Diane deal with this? Did she: A) Ask him to wait and she would discuss it? B) Ask him to make an appointment to come back and discuss it? C) Ignore him? The answer is 'none of the above', she endeared herself to public on Nationwide Television by saying: 'I had my security team throw him out.' You can safely bet your last pound that he was a white man. And why would a 'popular' MP need a security team in her own surgery where she was democratically elected? |
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Hello boys
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The 13:18 post is proof that some people have much better chances of getting a large council house than others.
Working man with 6 kids stayed on the housing list. Asian family been in the UK for the proverbial '5 minutes' and got a 5 bedroomed house. Welcome to multicultural Newham, where 25% of the population don't speak English as their first language. It makes you wonder where all the immigrants would have gone upon arrival in the UK if Thatcher hadn't sold off most of the council house stock in the 1980s. Because thousands of the indigenous white wouldn't have moved out, and there wouldn't be thousands of private landlords. Perhaps they'd have moved where Facts lives down his leafy lane. Facts, you can post your usual response 'WALOFS' if you like, but it won't change things. |
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The white bloke and his wife didn't believe in contraception, and if kids arrived, they arrived.
I could have sworn that on another thread a while back you blamed the many of the problems in Africa on the high birth rate... you can't have it both ways |
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are you talking to yourself, btw?
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I could have sworn that on another thread a while back you blamed the many of the problems in Africa on the high birth rate... you can't have it both ways
How is he trying to have it both ways? The first is his opinion, the second is a report of someone else's attitude not his. |
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I could have sworn that on another thread a while back you blamed the many of the problems in Africa on the high birth rate... you can't have it both ways
The birth rate in Africa has nothing whatsoever to do with who gets a council house in Newham, unless you'd care to explain the connection. The question is why should the asian family, who had been here for the proverbial '5 minutes' get priority over the indigenous white man who works full time, and paid his taxes into govt. coffers? |
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MisterBadger 15 Sep 14 22:11
are you talking to yourself, btw? Talking to people like Facts is the same thing. Somebody else posted on a thread a few weeks back 'too much immigration.' The Facts response was something like 'Your ignorance is staggering.' Within a few hours I used his response, along with northernlad's quote of 'Immigration has a nett fiscal positive', and not for the first time, posted a stack of figures, and asked for a response. As with every other time I posted them, there was no response. |
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The birth rate in Africa has nothing whatsoever to do with who gets a council house in Newham, unless you'd care to explain the connection.
I didn't say it did - there clearly is no connection. The point I was making was that on the other thread you were critical of the high birth rates in african countries, and implied that african families should not have so many children as this adds to their problems. When it comes to a white british family, however, you seem to think it perfectly acceptable for them to breed like rabbits and then expect to receive priority treatment. I was just wondering about the reason for your inconsistency. (Unfortunately I can't remember when the previous thread was so can't quote from it directly, so if it wasn't you that was advocating greater "self control" for africans then ignore the above - but I'm pretty sure it was you). Speaking of connections, what has the council housing policy in newham got to do with a man who died as a direct result of his benefits being stopped? |
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There was a time when having a large family was the norm in Britain. Nobody starved. In Africa millions
starve. That is the difference. Also until the arrival of millions of immigrants the large British family who such as this who worked and paid taxes would have a council house. |
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Humans have more children when deaths in infants is high, through disease. There is an over compensation by parents to attempt balance.
If it wasn`t for this human response to high mortality in infants, none of us would be here. |
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If it wasn`t for this human response to high mortality in infants, none of us would be here.
What a load of tripe. So which disease should we blame as the reason for producing you Gabrial? More likely he was an accident caused through drink, conceived on the back seat of a coach coming back from a day trip to the seaside. |
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^^^ that is a myth, in purely historical terms humanshad large families
because there was no effective way of preventing it. The human race has never been in danger of extinction through disease or lack of population simply because it is so easy to remedy! |
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MisterBadger
16 Sep 14 09:11 Speaking of connections, what has the council housing policy in newham got to do with a man who died as a direct result of his benefits being stopped? I responded to this post STUDYFORM 12 Sep 14 21:10 About 10 years ago, when I found myself jobless and in dire financial straits, I had to ask for state assistance. I applied for JSA and for housing benefit, for the 3 bedroom cottage I'd been renting, problem-free, for the previous 2 years. I was told after all the form filling that (being single and with no kids at home) I didn't need that many rooms and they would only pay half the rent. I explained that the £50(ish) JSA and half rent wouldn't keep the roof over my head, and I couldn't afford food, bills or anything else. I couldn't afford to pay for removal costs or a rental deposit. The reply? "Get a tent then" You should have painted your face and given yourself an asian name. And it went on from there, with me, as usual, being accused of racism. Try to keep up. |
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MisterBadger
The point I was making was that on the other thread you were critical of the high birth rates in african countries, and implied that african families should not have so many children as this adds to their problems. When it comes to a white british family, however, you seem to think it perfectly acceptable for them to breed like rabbits and then expect to receive priority treatment. I was just wondering about the reason for your inconsistency. The high birth rates in Africa led to more people starving than there were before Bob Geldof got involved in 1986. The more he saved, the more were born, so more were starving, and more died. It may not be a palatable fact, but if Africa was a racehorse, you'd shoot it. Extremely naive of you to have mentioned the 'white British family' while neglecting to mention the 'asian family' at all. Breed like rabbits? Asian families got both the 5 bedroomed houses. Why would they get a property as large as this, unless they also 'bred like rabbits' and had a lot of children. Both white and asian men have large families. Both need larger properties. The men of the house A) One has been here all his life. B) One has been here '5 minutes'. C) One has worked all his adult life, D) One has never worked in the UK. E) One was on the housing list for a few years. F) One was 'fresh off the plane' from somewhere like Bangladesh. G) They both require the same size property. A, C, E & G are the same person he is white. B, D, F & G are the same person, he is asian. In a normal world, if somebody has to get the house, which is the purpose they are built for, I say that ACEG should be give the first priority as he has been waiting longer. Not to mention that he has paid into govt coffers by working all his adult life. But it transpired that ACEG got neither of the 2 new 5 bedroomed houses, they went to two BDFG's. And you think that's a fair decision? |
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It's a crying shame the way the do-gooders have ruined our welfare system and public services for the benefit of foreigners.
No wonder Labour have lost so many voters since 1997, they'll put any toe-rags in front of their own people. Newcomers to this country should go straight to the bottom of any begging list regardless of their needs. |
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Labour Party Legacy - that's what we all have to live with - no good complaining now.
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call me a taxi
13 Sep 14 01:57 Enlighten me then, as you've never tried to get a council flat in east London, you have no idea what you're talking about. What makes my comment disgraceful? Facts 13 Sep 14 08:25 Because it's racist , stupid ! ^^^^ Not returned with more pearls of wisdom or his catchphrase 'WALOFS' in 60 hours. I wonder why not? |
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no good complaining now.
dewey, Many like me have been consistent in condemning the high levels of immigration into this country, under both Labour and to a lesser extent before them under the Tories. Of course we have to keep complaining, and we'll keep complaining until the working classes see the Labour party for what they are. Which is self serving career politicians whose actions end up by ruining the lives of the working people of this country. |
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Facts is probably the sort of forumite who says 'Why should I subsidise somebody in a cheaper rent council house if he wants a lot of children.'
She obviously can't post that here as both the 5 bedroomed houses went to asian families, and she's a confirmed luvvie, and as we all know, luvvies don't knock the asians. There can be no logical explanation (other than queuing on housing lists are total bollocks for a white family) why the asian family got priority over over the white family. 40 years ago the white family would have been threatened by Newham Council with eviction for overcrowding. Back then, all Newham Council rent cards had the maximum number of persons allowed to reside there, printed on them. You don't get overcrowding cases in court in Newham these days. |
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What is working class in 21st century Britain?
Manufacturing is down to its bare bones - No investment - No new inventions. We've become a nation of faceless warehouse operators and coffee shop junkies - Both businesses charge premium rates and in return pay their staff a pittance. Today's list of warehouse vacancies range from £6.31 ph (and you will be grateful) to £7.84 ph. Coffee shops assistants £6.31 ph nap. No doubt an extra 1p ph for those living in the capital. On one of the job sites i was wasting my time on. I mean job hunting/researching, was a link to a host of job vacancies for Harrods - All had over 100 applications ranging from executives personal assistant (only total stunners need apply), to working on the deli counter...ie,,,customer service assistant. These positions showed no hourly rates of pay, just "competitive rates?" Working class indeed! |
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Even when I went to school in the 80s it was obvious that if you didn’t have qualifications and/or recognised skills you would be fkd. So I got my head down from an early age and went into IT, while many of my peers in the North East, who had exactly the same chance as me, p&ssed around at school and ended up as YTS fodder. As such these days I’m at point X and they’re a long way behind that.
If you don’t have qualifications and/or real skills you’ll probably be doing menial low paid sh&te forever, fighting for work against the latest batch of client labour voters that have been imported, because labour has worked out that the English have a tendency to not vote for them if they’re actually getting ahead in life. The last labour government made a good stab and screwing the IT industry , well they’re not natural labour voters so why not, by allowing companies to send large chunks of work to India or bring them here en masse. That has made it much harder to find work and the wages out there have been stagnant for over 10 years. |
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If you don’t have qualifications and/or real skills you’ll probably be doing menial low paid sh&te forever,
Every year the G.C.S.E. pass rates and grades get better. There can't possibly be that much improvement in the education system. There are only two possible reasons that the stats are up that high. 1) The exams are not hard enough. 2) The teachers tell the thickest students that there's no point in sitting exams as they won't pass. I'd suggest it was option 1. |
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course work counts to final grade
open to manipulation |
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So are my trousers, ask bito.
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The whole lot has been dumbed down, it’s too easy to get As , no one is allowed to fail and feel bad. Yeah real life is just like that!
It started out where everyone was winner at sports day and went from there. Now you have kids going to uni doing nonsense courses and then wonder why they're working in Pizza Hut or a call centre forever. |
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My eldest grand-daughter has never had a school sports day
 and she's 11. Moved out of Barking and started senior school last week in Colchester. I haven't asked her if they have a sports day yet, but I hope so. Her mum had the 50 metres dash in the bag at junior school, only to slow down and wait for her best friend, so they could cross the line together, holding hands. Thank fack I wasn't betting on it |