Doubtless some think I'm to the right of Attilla The Hun but I've been saying since the beginning of this which actually began in the latter days of the last Labour government that whatever the rights and wrongs of seeking to move genuine scroungers off benefits the government does have a duty to be careful about the message it sends out. Not necessarily in this specific case but there are an awful lot of vulnerable people out there. A thought for them, even a little compassion and empathy wouldn't go amiss. By all means do what you have to do but you don't need an endless propaganda campaign to go along with it. Some of these vulnerable people are obviously the least able to withstand the onslaught and we will only ever be strong and just when we demonstrate our capacity and willingness to help carry those who cannot do it themselves.

weak

Dr Crippen 05 Aug 14 16:30 Joined: 16 Apr 02 | Topic/replies: 16,022 | Blogger: Dr Crippen's blog
Right B_B, now you're talking.

Flog 'em till they drop. Then when they come round give it to them again.

Ah Jim lad.

On a thread about a poor man dying and Crippen claims to be a Christian!

I'll ignore Angel Gabrial's comments.

He's always a bit tetchy before he's had his first drink of the day.

Christ,that someone would even contemplate using such a situation as this to troll beggars belief,its an affront to every human instinct to be THAT much of a tw4t.

The irony of you saying you are a Christian Crippen, if it wasn`t so sad it would be comedy gold.

This is a classic Crippenism.

Dr Crippen 10 Jun 14 18:32 Joined: 16 Apr 02 | Topic/replies: 16,027 | Blogger: Dr Crippen's blog
I went to the local baths today.
They were teaching the kids to swim. There was not one skinny rib in sight.
Everyone of the little fat brats looked overfed.

Where are these hungry kids? Because I've never seen one.

ah, that's nice... lfc jumping to the defence of poor misunderstood dr crippen 

That's your excuse dusty, and no doubt you will stick to it.  Easier than getting off your ar$e anyway!

The 'Liberal left', 'foamin' Lefty', 'luvvie' etc etc
Amazing how the lack of social conscience is assuaged by some sort of 'put down', which is doubtlessly what the above phrases are meant to be.

I'd suggest it represents a form of personal abuse against the caring people by those who consider themselves "right-wing".
Strange how the 'right-wing' never seems to care about misfortune and feel it's self-inflicted all the time and how they feel the opposite view is owed to a 'fault' of some unspecified description.

Here we go, the pack mentality of the liberal left. It is noticeable how often they turn to
personal abuse. They really are natural bullies.


Poor Crippen getting bullied. He is Christian,i am sure that he will forgive us.

join the queue
Im still waiting for your man crippen to tell me whether he believes the people who take egregious amounts out are worth that money.

They are not worth that money, for heavens sake it is an almighty con. The people earning big wages could all
without exception be replaced by a thousand other people.
Those in the city of london are doiing essentially semi-skilled work
They have no measurable skills, in fact the most stupid are as likely as not to make the most..for a time
The point is "measurable" skills.

true lfc its not what you know its who you know in a lot of cases .........as an example ! my son worked  for one of the big bookmakers and a good few years ago  he was in a shop in the city of London for a while and it was frequented by city types .....bankers etc , anyway one lunchtime this arrogant **** walks  into the shop and  up to the counter  and says loudly" write me out £400 to win on a certain horse and I want to take the price " my son says to the arrogant pryke "i am not allowed to write out bets its against company rules ,you will have to write it out yourself" ...............arrogant khoont says in a louder voice " I am a corporate banker making thousands a day how dare you speak to me like that  whats your name ! I know the owner of this organisation perso"nly I had lunch with  him the other day i will have you sacked !............ which will be some feat  because billy mountains died donkeys years ago but hey ho ! .........anyway my son says to **** " do what you like" and the price is 2/1 for said horse .............so **** grudgingly writes out bet £400 win and confidently says I will be back at 5 to collect my winnings , my son and the rest of the staff were praying that the prykes horse would get turned over ....but the fecker pished up and true to his word at around 5 0,clock the turd marches in and  up to the counter and shouts out" right cough up my money" ! my son thought he would make life a bit difficult for the **** so took his time messing around and stalling the **** to wind him up before paying him out ................prick becomes agitated and shouts pay me out the £800 you owe me ! my son says sorry sir how much ? prick shouts for all to hear" £400 at 2/1 is £800 return ,my son being as difficult as the pryke says no sorry sir I think you have made a mistake there I cant pay you out £800 , **** gets more agitated and demands head office number to speak to someone higher ! all the while muttering threats that he will have my son sacked ......after a good few minutes of giving the **** the runaround my son agrees to pay him out the correct amount £400 at 2/1 = £1200 the turd thought that £400 on a 2/1 winner was £800 return! no wonder our bankers squandered billions of taxpayers money  if this turd was typical of them  !

He should have paid him 800 and kept the 400. Corporate banker that can`t count, make you laugh

I blame Thatcher.

Phucking job centres

Googled my nearest one and they dished over THREE THOUSAND SANCTIONS in one single year, the dozy prats are sending people on courses left right and centre and making them apply for FIVE jobs every day on something called universal job match, their website, apply for four and miss the fifth you are sanctioned, they are c unts, no two ways about it, how can people look for work if they are on courses and apparently they are a crock of sh it, people staring at walls all day, reading newspapaers, killing time, it's a joke, basically a test to see if people are working on the sly

ian duncan smith and cameron both make my skin crawl all over the shop, I have never seen a face I'd love to slap more than IDS, what a fat useless waste of space, tory voters are VERMIN

The headline on the petition is this:
"Hold an inquiry into benefit sanctions that killed my brother "

Now I don't know how you would bet, but if someone offered me evens the pair on which of the following is the bigger killer -
1) loneliness ( relatives and friends who don't check up on you )
2) benefit sanctions ( DWP advisers who at least care enough to send you a letters which you don't open )

I know which one I'm betting on at evens, and it's loneliness.

Sorry, thought this might be a thread about moony

http://tiny.cc/utezlx

David Clapson’s awful death was the result of grotesque government policies

The DWP brags about ending the ‘something for nothing’ culture, but benefit sanctions punish the unemployed, disabled and poor in ways that are utterly inhumane


The coroner said that when David Clapson died he had no food in his stomach. Clapson’s benefits had been stopped as a result of missing one meeting at the jobcentre. He was diabetic, and without the £71.70 a week from his jobseeker’s allowance he couldn’t afford to eat or put credit on his electricity card to keep the fridge where he kept his insulin working. Three weeks later Clapson died from diabetic ketoacidosis, caused by a severe lack of insulin. A pile of CVs was found next to his body.

I’ll resist calling Clapson’s death a tragedy. Tragedy suggests a one-off incident, a rarity that couldn’t be prevented. What was done to Clapson – and it was done, not something that simply happened – is a particularly horrific example of what has, almost silently, turned into a widespread crisis. More than a million people in this country have had their benefits stopped over the past year. Sanctions against chronically ill and disabled people have risen by 580% in a year. This is a system out of control.

A petition for an inquiry into benefit sanctions, started by Clapson’s sister, Gill Thompson, is now on the verge of its 200,000th signature. This Thursday there will be a day of action against benefit sanctions across the country. If inspiration is required, you need look no further than the latest Department for Work and Pensions pilot scheme launched last week. The unemployed are set to have their benefits stopped if they don’t sign in at a jobcentre in the morning and spend the whole day there, every day. Breach the rules once and you’ll lose four weeks’ worth of benefits; twice and you won’t be able to feed your kids for three months.

Yes, some reasons for sanctions are almost laughable: going to a job interview rather than a meeting at the jobcentre that it clashes with; not completing an assessment because you had a heart attack during it. But let’s not convince ourselves the rest are credible – punishment sensibly bestowed on the scrounging unemployed. A government that deems it a success to stop the money someone needs to eat is a government of the grotesque.

Sanctions are a product of an attitude towards benefit claimants that says they are not people struggling to find work but suspects: lazy, stupid and in need of a DWP-kick to get them out of bed. The lazy are going hungry. Eight in 10 Trussell Trust food banks report that benefit sanctions are causing more people to need emergency food parcels. This, I suppose, is what Conservatives call motivation.

It doesn’t matter that sanctions are disproportionately hitting the most vulnerable. Nor that the DWP’s own commissioned report says that they are being imposed in such a way that vulnerable people often don’t understand what is happening to them, and are left uninformed of the hardship payments to which they are entitled. Six out of 10 employment and support allowance (ESA) claimants who have had their benefits stopped have a mental-health condition or learning difficulty. Are these the chosen victims of austerity now? By definition of being in receipt of ESA, many will struggle to do things such as be punctual for meetings or complete work placements with strangers in environments they don’t know. It is setting people up to fail and then punishing them for it.

Sanctions are not an anomaly. Rather, they are emblematic of the wider Tory record on welfare: one of incompetence and, at best, indifference. The work programme fails to find work for 95% of disabled people, but enforced, unpaid labour or loss of benefits is the DWP’s answer. More than a quarter of a million people are still waiting for PIP, the benefit needed to help cover the extra costs of disability. Seven hundred thousand people have been left waiting for an ESA assessment. Locking people out of their rightful benefits is becoming a theme for this government. The consequences are human; the response from the government is inhumane.

Clapson had only left his last job to care for his elderly mum, and before that had worked for 29 years. On the day he died he had £3.44 to his name and six tea bags, a tin of soup and an out-of-date can of sardines in his kitchen cupboards. Benefit sanctions are aimed at ending the “something for nothing” culture, as the DWP’s press release brags. I vote for ending the demonisation of the unemployed, disabled and poor.

do you not believe it dewey - this is a well documented story?