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left to die with £3.44 in his bank account because of benefit sanctions
left to die with £3.44 in his bank account because of benefit sanctions
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Paolo Nutini - Iron Sky - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELKbtFljucQ#t=284
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based on what?
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* to your previous post
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELKbtFljucQ - Life is what you make it.
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Generally in this Country....think yourselvers lucky.
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I very much doubt you'll understand what I'm talking about.
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"lucky" is not a word I would use to describe people reduced to using food banks or dying as a direct result of losing their benefits in the sixth-largest economy in the world
that aside, even if we do "think ourselves lucky", why do you literally not believe the story? |
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'reduced to using food
banks or dying as a direct result of losing their benefits' in this country?! - are you actually serious?! |
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.....and yes..I have seen these people that rely on food banks - and yes....I have brought up a decent family on less than these people get on benefits.......like I said...............................
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are you actually serious?!
of course I am - read the article ffs |
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have you read it yet dewey?
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An 81 year old woman recently died of starvation after the police shut her care agency down. She wasn't found for days, and by then, it was too late to save her.
This has nothing to do with benefit cuts, but it happened, and it facking shouldn't have done. I have no doubt 'Lessons will be learned.' and 'It must never happen again.' But it will. |
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People blame the government for everything. But where were the family, neighbours and friends? I know in some cases people have none of these but most of the time when someone is in trouble the rest of their family should help them.
The benefits system is crippling the country. If families don't start looking after each other things will be terrible soon when real cuts start and state pensions etc have to be targeted. |
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The benefits system is crippling the country.
Blame the labour party, far too much immigration, and a £5 billion a year tax credit bill for low paid immigrants. |
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That is an absolute falsehood frog2. The benefits system is not crippling the country, the government's reluctance to properly tax their friends, or to even bother to collect the tax from International businesses trading in Britain costs the country infinitely more.
You are just another fool being led up the garden path by Tory propaganda, which targets the poor, sick and unemployed, and relies on the gullibility of fools like you to avoid proper scrutiny of its tax regime. |
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And yes, call me a taxi has a point, Labour's exponential expansion of the public sector and its laissez-faire approach to immigration - all to extend the influence and control of its client state - has damaged the country terribly.
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So if we taxed businesses and wealthy individuals more we could afford to pay keep paying the ever increasing benefits (included pensions) that people are 'entitled' to and pay off the deficit?
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Here's a radical idea...
Teach kids at school the skills to buy, store and cook food.. Amazing how cheap it is if you're shrewd. Very simple to feed yourself on £2 a day if you have half a brain. Meanwhile, our schools teach kids algebra and about the 12th century Russian poet who had a dog called Rupert... |
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MisterBadger - Yes, I have read it ....then again I don't beleive all I read!! nor should you.
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04 Aug 14 14:20 Big brave tories picking fights with the disabled and those with the audacity to have a spare room while 'Shareholder Value Maximization' runs the less well off into the ground. The latest vote on the 'bedroom tax' appears to show that it's going to be scrapped. |
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It's not a tax.
It's a reduction in housing benefit for those deemed to have surplus bedroom capacity in a house that is not theirs. |
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Well said Injera....totally agree.
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You can call it what the heck you want, it's criminal. Also a lie. The tories couldnt give a chinese shyte about freeing up 'surplus' bedrooms, they did to save money, stealing form the most vulnerable members of society like they always have, and always will. If they stay in power, which i very sincerely hope they don't, theyll be bringing back window tax.
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Injera
11 Sep 14 22:04 It's not a tax. It's a reduction in housing benefit for those deemed to have surplus bedroom capacity in a house that is not theirs. Do you also object to your income tax paying for a rented property in Londons west end for those MPs who live in other parts of the country, whose wages you are already paying to the tune of £67,000 a year, with a 9% rise in the offing, the greedy cnunts. |
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Aaahhhh Diddums!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Very intelligent response.
Are you female by any chance? |
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She went to Oxford
..... sorry I mean Oxfams to keep her JSA  |
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I do Taxi!!
As for Tony's remark, of course they're trying to free up surplus bedrooms! There is a long waiting list of folks needing houses currently occupied by people who don't need the space they have. Under Labour the Housing Benefit bill rose from £8Bn to £26Bn! It HAS to be addressed. |
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Benefits/handouts ultimately come from other people's taxes. Your view on taxes depend on whether you are a net receiver or contributor.
If you're a net contributor , especially if you are for many years, you can be inclined to view it as basically the government stealing your hard earned to hand over to others. If you're a net receiver you tend to view it as all fair society blah blah. |
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^ that's an extremely simplistic view
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Yeah to a certain degree , but when it comes down to it if you're a net contributor you tend to want to hand over as little as possible.
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Thatcher brought in new deal... but labour progressed it to a working weapon on the poor. As someone who escaped down an alley way away from these sour plum civil servants. I feel as if i escaped from a rape gang. Applying for fictional jobs that were posted in their consoles. Mind game courses that went on from 13 weeks to 26 weeks. Getting sanctioned is now inescapable.
Prison now costs £90,000 per year on the state. After they release you they put you on a 'bounce back' course which costs £3,000. £93,000 they spend on you a year if you are a criminal. £70 a week x 52 - £3,500 if you are unemployed. |
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They should have to work in prison like they do in many of them in the USA.
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jed.davison 11 Sep 14 18:04
That is an absolute falsehood frog2. The benefits system is not crippling the country, the government's reluctance to properly tax their friends, or to even bother to collect the tax from International businesses trading in Britain costs the country infinitely more. You are just another fool being led up the garden path by Tory propaganda, which targets the poor, sick and unemployed, and relies on the gullibility of fools like you to avoid proper scrutiny of its tax regime. Absolutely spot on. Tories have got people looking down, for the problems. Whereas everyone should look up, to the fat cats,bankers,tax avoiders . These parasites are the ones killing the economy and putting us into recession. |
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you need to look up and down
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Injera
12 Sep 14 17:57 I do Taxi!! As for Tony's remark, of course they're trying to free up surplus bedrooms! There is a long waiting list of folks needing houses currently occupied by people who don't need the space they have. Under Labour the Housing Benefit bill rose from £8Bn to £26Bn! It HAS to be addressed. The simple solution to lower the annual housing benefit bill is to move all those that are out of work to where the cheapest rental properties are, wherever they are. Even in sh!tholes like Newham in east London, 3-bed houses are over £300 a week. Not forgetting the somali family in the mansion in Fulham on £2,000 a week, and the 'widowed' (so she says) somali mother of 5 kids (who have a bedroom each ffs) in Kilburn, at £1,600 a week. Move all long term unemployed Londoners to somewhere cheap. That's the start. |
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About 10 years ago, when I found myself jobless and in dire financial straits, I had to ask for state assistance. I applied for JSA and for housing benefit, for the 3 bedroom cottage I'd been renting, problem-free, for the previous 2 years. I was told after all the form filling that (being single and with no kids at home) I didn't need that many rooms and they would only pay half the rent.
I explained that the £50(ish) JSA and half rent wouldn't keep the roof over my head, and I couldn't afford food, bills or anything else. I couldn't afford to pay for removal costs or a rental deposit. The reply? "Get a tent then" Some things aren't party political as so many people on here try to make nearly every thread. As for the housing bill. It's entirely possible that the increase (though I seriously doubt the figures quoted) is in large part due to greedy basstad landlords and parasitic estate agents ramping up rents because they know folk will have to find the money and can't get a mortgage. Dewey, you write as someone who is lucky enough not to be suffering in the current climate and someone who completely lacks empathy. Just because you have no personal experience of something doesn't mean it isn't happening. Of course there are poor sods having to rely on food banks. They would rather not have to. There are probably as many people who have more money than they need or can spend, but these are the ones who want (and can afford to get) even more of it. During WW1 the country was run by people who stood around drinking Brandy whilst sending 100's of thousands of men to their certain deaths. They persuaded the rest of the population that if these men weren't willing to be sent they would be given white feathers and ostracised. Added to this was imprisonment and firing squads. An attitude which is feeling strangely familiar. Some things never really change. |
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I came to the conclusion a long time ago that to a large extent none of the parties know what they are doing. The fact you can end up a government minister purely on the strength of your gob, with no real qualifications or experience relevant to the department, plus they then tend to be slaves to public opinion of their client voters, doesn’t make a good combination.
Basically the problem is we have too many professional politicians with too little real life experience. How the fck can anyone take a millionaire never had a job Marxist like Miliband seriously as a potential leader of the country I’ll never know. We have the situation where multinationals making billions here are paying f all tax (personally I feel any money made in the UK should pay our tax and I don’t care where else they have an office), people down the bottom end blatantly taking the p&ss with every intention of riding the system forever (have seen that first hand with in-laws even) , poor sods that seem to fall through all the gaps and getting squarely crapped on by life, people working all hours and getting a huge chunk of their hard earned dosh taken from them in the name of one thing or another. What’s the solution? I don’t know because everybody has their own definition of what’s fair etc etc. I haven’t had too many stints out of work and I’ve spent 80% of my working life working for myself plus my wage levels have gone from the bottom 10% to the top 10%, on balance I vote with my wallet and judging by the political so do many others but I can’t say I’m not disillusioned with things. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/election2010/results/default.stm |
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STUDYFORM 12 Sep 14 21:10 About 10 years ago, when I found myself jobless and in dire financial straits, I had to ask for state assistance. I applied for JSA and for housing benefit, for the 3 bedroom cottage I'd been renting, problem-free, for the previous 2 years. I was told after all the form filling that (being single and with no kids at home) I didn't need that many rooms and they would only pay half the rent. I explained that the £50(ish) JSA and half rent wouldn't keep the roof over my head, and I couldn't afford food, bills or anything else. I couldn't afford to pay for removal costs or a rental deposit. The reply? "Get a tent then" You should have painted your face and given yourself an asian name. |