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INTER DOMINION 2014
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yes right on board.
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Funny that seeing how he sat and won the Breeders Crown 4yo Entires & Geldings division, (one of his biggest career wins) oh dear you've must missed that eh AD and the last time he went over there he wasn't right and wasn't anywhere near the horse he was last prep but then again you wouldn't know of that because of your all knowing eastern states bias.
When did I ever say that he hadn't run before at Melton genius, but hey you've never ever let facts get in the way of a good story before or in your case the propaganda you continually spew forth like verbal diarrhoea Josef, so why start now. As for Pinjarra it ran 2nd on debut on when very green and inexperienced and yes it does fly around there because it went there as a 4yo when it was really starting to emerge and rated 1.52.7 over the 1670m beating Crombie who was then trained by Oliveri and was flying and they streeted the rest including Lombo Navigator who was floundering in their wake. So yes it is far better suited on bigger tracks. |
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a) I am not from the eastern states so no idea why I would have a bias
b) you just dismiss his bad Melton runs (coincidentally when he has come from the back) by saying he wasn't right. Well there is no point in making a statement if you just choose to dismiss the runs that don't fit your case c) everyone has seen you got your analysis of him loving Pinjarra wrong, you shot from the hip and hoped no one would know any better. One run more the three years ago is the basis for your claim (he led on that occasion which continues to support that he is not great from behind) d) you claimed he would be a superstar at Melton. 13 runs and he proved to be no superstar., anything but actually. 13 is enough to form the opinion. Again you made that claim without having any clue how many runs he had had there. Keep going if you like, everyone is now sitting back laughing as you can see. |
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That is still one of the most impressive performances at pinjarra over the last 5-10 years not only time wise but especially against another very good up and coming young horse at that stage in Crombie ( when it was trained by Oliveri), so yes most certainly he does track better around the bigger track at Pinjarra, as he does around Melton when making mid races moves with ease and not struggling around corners to roll to the front etc which he has done on several occasions but no of course he wouldn't be better suited on bigger tracks, give it up mate you're sounding more petty and vindictive by the minute.
Another convenient omission is when he ran on very strongly again surprise surprise coming from behind when a terrific 2nd to Smoken up in the ffa in that same prep in outstanding time 1.52 and change when Smoken Up was airborne and produced a monstrous run on that occasion. You tried to pot the horse's Pinjarra form based upon it getting beaten at its debut due to greenness and inexperience when making its first racetrack start as an immature 2yo, I would suggest that you're the one who's actively trying to pull the wool over people eyes. Yes when you're outside WA you live east of western australia you are from the eastern states this is why people in WA commonly refer to the rest of australia as a rule as the Eastern States, and often in a condescending manner because of the smug superior attitude of people such as your good self. Not only that when we go to melbourne or adelaide or sydney or brisbane or basically anywhere else in australia outside WA we ourselves refer to it as heading east or travelling to the eastern states etc. So it isn't necessarily a derogatory term but in your case I'll state categorically that you're the exception to that rule as clearly you're incapable of conducting a civil discussion without a perverse need to point out your laughably supposedly superior knowledge all while deliberately trying to cloud issues through convenient omission of facts. Its pretty sad really when you think about it |
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 You are a jokeI was the one who stated facts you fool. Statistical facts, not opinions, statistical facts. You are desperate to try to push your view based on one run over three years ago, whilst ignoring several at Melton where you claim he would be a superstar. How about you relate facts to what you are saying, and not try desperately to put your opinion forward without referring to fact. You had no idea how many runs the horse had had at Melton and Pinjarra when you went on your rant. Anyway I have money to make so no point arguing with someone like you who has demonstrated they are out of their depth. By the way, Mach Alert handing up to Avonnova Seriously, watch a race or two before you speak |
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Finally last prep he went to a level he hadn't previously gone to, even his runs in defeat were enormous,sp yes he would fly around melton and menangle the horse has had quite a few issues throughout his career and he was finally more or less free of those niggling issues. For someone who supposedly is a harness racing expert it's amazing your ignorance of his inability to get around GP when forced to make his run out wide, surely that is obvious even to a so called superior expert such as your good self.
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Proved he is no where near as good from behind over and over at Melton. The stats put that beyond doubt. Keep watching one race and forming an opinion. no wonder you go to work every day
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Not arguing with you anymore, you proved your knowledge is absolutely zero with your post about the Sprint this week. Clearly I am not the only one laughing at you.
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LE please realise that all horses have various problems when they race, the better ones put themselves under a lot of stress. To constantly say x is not right/wasn't right is a disservice to all the other horses in the race who are also being managed by a trainer and vet.
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I knew perfectly well that he had been over there on at least two or three occasions previously and probably had upwards of 10 runs off the top of my head without having to bother checking.
I also knew that he had recorded one of his career best wins coming from behind (something that you didn't even realise) without feeling the need to go back and check upon it, funny how for such an expert you didn't know that, could it be that it didn't suit your argument. Maybe you'll learn the hard way when he comes over there one day in peak form settles in and treats some of your so called good horses with contempt. I actually feel sorry for someone who can hate like your good self and feels the need to constantly prove their supposed superiority. Like I said it;s really pretty sad but by the same token when you deliberately post misleading information I won't hesitate to expose you for it either as I can't stand hypocrites. Also I don't have to hide anything as I'm used to dealing with people openly and honestly but perhaps you're not and I only deal with good people maybe that's you're problem that you're not used to dealing with someone who doesn't need to lie and cheat and deceive. |
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I actually have a database with all of those runs, i know exactly what he did. You don't have that info. His runs at Melton put beyond doubt he struggles from the back. Keep arguing, you are a part timer gambler for a reason. I tried to end it but you are a proven MUG
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Am well aware of that Uncle but for him to rubbish a horse based upon one disappointing ES prep and to then to not acknowledge that during its previous prep it went to a level it had never previously achieved is simply absurd.
In saying that its supposedly not going as well this prep or hadn't been allegedly in its trials prior to its first up run. Tonight it has to contend with Hall stablemates both drawn well (you can work out for yourself what I mean by that comment) pretty confident that unless it has an absolute gutbuster that it will win on class alone but regardless if he goes to the breeze, he might not win but doubt either of the hall stablemates will either under those circumstances. I'll be having something on him and probably saving on dundee three as it's the one if they get into a war that could cause the upset with the right run. |
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Well if you knew that it means you deliberately and conveniently omitted it, most people would consider that pretty poor form on your behalf.
I really have better things to do than waste any further time, having already wasted far too much of it, conducting an insular circular argument with you as its seriously not worth the trouble and for such a professional you spend an awful lot of time arguing with people rather than making your enormous profit. |
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might help your argument if you actually get the horses names right mate its mach beauty but then again you're such a professional
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bad luck about lanercost Vk will be devastated
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Lanercost has been gone for 3 years now.
Brilliant Juvenile. David Hercules would be a Good Horse for Butts. Like Flashing Red and Karloo Mick, just sit 3 wide all the way running 28,28,28,28 Reason he will not be up with best is doesnt have devastating sprint. Tonight if he didnt win then you would be really worried. Great price as well. Nice horse but not a Dominate horse Uncle, Ronny won a Trial the other day by 30 so should be good for Inter this year. Champ is back. Should of entered him Winter Cup he has come back that good |
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David Hercules, that was impressive, especially in those conditions as he had to be used a bit early to find the death, second up having to work in the run he was always going to be at least a little vulnerable yet he treated them with contempt and our arlington didn't loaf in front on a very sloppy track 29.9,28,7, 28.4, 30.4 mile rate 1.57.4 in the slop for the 2536m.
3.4 fixed was a big price, showed yet again that when right he's a class above those horses and in the past he has sometime struggled over the longer trips although his run in this years Pacing Cup over the 2900m suggested that he was at least starting to handle them a lot better. |
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How Many races will Tonkin/Stewart tomorrow.
Loves these races and horses always 100% Back Guaranteed to Beat Lennytheshark Lovelist to Bounce back Bettors Package |
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I would love to see him go to the right stable over there having been spelled and had the chance to adapt and be brought up on a full preparation over there on one of the bigger tracks, think he would turn a few heads, he's certainly the logical heir apparent over here if he can keep him right. Hopefully tonight's performance might have have sent a few of them a message and he might get a few easier runs now as not much point in those b graders holding him out on that performance.
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lloydy I was referring to the report tonight that Lanercost which won 2nd up at AP tonight going 1.53 something but apparently it pulled up very sore afterwards so obviously its comeback is finished and by the sound of it might be the last time it sees the racetrack
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Just back Stewart tonight and Thank me later
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Haven't even looked at them lloydy and don't have any interest in doing so but thanks and good luck I hope they all win for you. I've lost interest in your trots the charge out of the mobile then the ridiculous crawl followed by a fast 400m sprint does nothing for me any more.
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Hall jnr outdrove them but just goes to show how poor those horses really are, still want to rubbish david hercules???
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he was in a no win situation but surely you would rather sit on IMTQ than give it cover. I mean you cannot possibly hold off quiiny with him on your back and probably not run past it. yes i backed Mach Beauty! Bart Cockburn. Good name.
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Like finding money on ground
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Mach beauty showed yet again at that level unless its driven with the sit to use its speed that it has a big yellow streak down its back. The stablemate tried hard as well didn't it, sits outside it last start and way too strong for it but doesn't want to go forward tonight to sit outside it again, I wonder why.
Think if he sits on avonova, quinny is left in the breeze and mach beauty probably wins, how dumb is that comment looking now geniuses. Might have to send Copagrin and My Hard cat(Copy)over there it would probably clean up as well  |
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Didn't back it lloydy and didn't really get involved other than a very small lay of mach beauty purely out of principle seeing that it was going to hold the front.
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did you back composed?
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Yer but N Jack just cost me plenty then
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Why i not stick to G1
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I have been potting Avonnova all week but Let's Elope if you think Mach Beauty would have beaten Avonnova home by handing up to it the way that horse went than you really are an idiot. Oh wait....
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its beaten home better horses than that with a sit in tit inters heat mate and ran ok in the inter final with a sit, easily its two best performances at that elite level it has a big yellow streak in elite company when it leads but by all means keep backing it to lead in that company hate to think what David Hercules would have done to that lot with the same run in front.
It has more high speed over short distance than Avonova so yes it would have comfortably beaten it home as quinny would have had to go after it as well. Nice run but the 4th horse was rakarebel who finished only another 8.6m behind avonova. Rakarebel is a nice handy ex perth horse who finished 3rd in a very average claimer four starts back, so hardly speaks volumes for the performance of those horses even with it just presumably getting the suck run in transit. I suspected those horses weren't much chop compared to what used to come to those carnivals and that was proven tonight. She ran the race the way she wanted to in front and it wasn't anywhere good enough even hall wasn't at all confident about quinny so it just goes that those aren't anything special |
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hahaha ok believe what you want. I forgot the inter heat and final were over a mile on a 1000m track. Avonna got home in 54.9 last week. Not exactly slow. Enjoy putting your fluro yellow top on when you go to work on Monday you moron
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Avonnova*
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Oops that didn't work. I was trying to say .......... Okhaden, that does sound a little elitist, you can't possible know what colour shirt he wears to work
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hahaha happy to be labelled elitist. it's either fluro yellow or fluro orange. it's hard not to get sucked in by those ridiculous comments
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One forum mug has egg on his face after Chilli Palmer wins tonight. Apparently goes "like a crab" around the track.
This is why most can't make it in this game. The forum mug strikes again |
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no what I said it was that crabbed around the track first up there and that it couldn't win the race it was in the other night against those horses as a result, but hey you've continued your tradition of never letting facts getting in the way of a good story so good luck to you.
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