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tempted to lay Helena here. Outtrigger could beat her
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I would be amazed, and I would have her more like 1.2.
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She came over better, and got the best crowd reception. Ok, it's to be expected perhaps in some ways, but I am not sure she got such support in heat 1.
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It's very 'This girl is on fire'
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I think it's a much better song than that (I hate the Alicia Keys song) but I can see some similarities I guess.
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Going 1st must be an advantage
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Assuming it does get through, it could well be my 2nd favourite in the final. I am warming to Ellen's song but she is still trailing in a somewhat distant 4th in my affections.
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Not that Outtrigger will pick up many floating voters
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She may well get 70% of the h2h.
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it depends which duel is 2nd vs 3rd and which 1st vs 4th
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Go on Martin
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Duel B
Linus VS Martin |
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if helena was 1st than outrig has no chance
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I fear Linus will beat him tho
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Part of Martin's song reminds me of The One That Got Away by Katy Perry.
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The first song is so messy, and his look is hardly very vote-winning. It's just the sympathy angle that gets him any votes at all.
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It's an awful dirge
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I think it will be Helena and Martin through.
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OMG - tears, they may help.
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Martin not much better tbf.
Having not been keen before, Helena clearly the best of the night |
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I think Martin's song is ok - he does have more of a profile, albeit one that dates back some time.
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Ellen with the pimp in the final
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Keep dreaming. It will probably go to Paparizou, unless they try her 1st this time. (1st is thought of as the 2nd best slot)
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if she's there
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I don't think it will make much difference to Ellen's result wherever she is though tbh.
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True. It's so different to everything else that it doesn't really matter
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I am more interested in where they place Sanna. An early draw for that (2nd-4th say) would suggest they are not keen to help it. Yohio's draw will be telling too.
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Martin having fun with the host anyway
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Knew it
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Market ir spot on again
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4 songs from heat 1 in the final could fill you with some hope about Ellen's vote.
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Did my cash on Martin. So not hopeful of anything
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The market will tell us who wins
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ir market that is. Money beforehand is usually wrong
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My guess as the running order (I believe SVT would prefer Helena or Yohio):
1. Helena 2. Ace 3. Panetoz 4. Oscar 5. Sanna 6. Linus 7. Alcazar 8. Ellen 9. Anton 10. Yohio |
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The IR market was not at all right last year in the final.
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I'm rarely one to shout insider money but I'm sure there is money in the market that knows the result beforehand.
Maybe more liquidity last year? so harder to spot |
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There have not been semi markets on here before (or not for a while anyway) but definitely the money in the final was not for the winner until during the jury voting. (Jury votes counting 50% of course - the winner did not win the televote)
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There you go then
I reckon Outtrigger were close to beating Helena too and give her very little hope in the final. We'll see next week and when the results are announced |
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The running order for the final may be announced pretty quickly. It has been the same night I think the last few years.
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