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By:
LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 19 Nov 12 09:52
So do you think TPTB lost the plot or was this deliberate?

Neither they just didn't get as many votes.  That's how it works.
By:
squares
When: 19 Nov 12 09:52
tend to agree.

A mixture of both tho really.
By:
LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 19 Nov 12 09:52
What like you would George!!! Laugh
By:
squares
When: 19 Nov 12 09:53
agree with Dizzy that is.
By:
LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 19 Nov 12 09:53
Dizzy

I answered you but you didn't answer me? Confused

How much did you lose on Ella?
By:
Dizzy42
When: 19 Nov 12 09:53
Lou - I was fortunate in that the 25/1 on Tulisa losing all of her acts first acted as a bit of insurance on my Ella bets.  I had laid off some of my stake last weekend at 6/4 and 7/4, but she was still my 4th biggest green going into last night's show.
By:
Dizzy42
When: 19 Nov 12 09:53
Blimey Lou - give me a chance to type!
By:
Dizzy42
When: 19 Nov 12 09:54
Unlike you, I fortunately always believe the Star leaks! Wink
By:
squares
When: 19 Nov 12 09:54
Altho regards Ella, they either lost the plot with her (ie. could easily have made her voter friendly) or decided they weren't that bothered with her after the first couple of weeks.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 19 Nov 12 09:54
How are you feeling about Star leaks today Lou Wink
By:
Dizzy42
When: 19 Nov 12 09:54
They gave up on Ella too soon IMO.  Shame...
By:
LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 19 Nov 12 09:55
Can't wait for the percentages to come out.  The red faces on here if they were wrong!!
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 19 Nov 12 09:55
Definitely. Made a right mess of it.  Tulisa's voting appeals should have been more concerted.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 19 Nov 12 09:55

Nov 19, 2012 -- 9:55AM, LOU MACARIS TARTAN B wrote:


Can't wait for the percentages to come out.

By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 19 Nov 12 09:56
Laugh
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 19 Nov 12 09:56
Laugh
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 19 Nov 12 09:56
Btw Lou, your potato man has never topped the vote as far as we know Wink
By:
LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 19 Nov 12 09:56
Any proof yet they're right?


I'll answer that for you ......................... No FACT.
By:
squares
When: 19 Nov 12 09:56
If they'd played it sensibly Tulisa's voting appeals shouldn't have been necessary.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 19 Nov 12 09:57

Nov 19, 2012 -- 9:56AM, LOU MACARIS TARTAN B wrote:


Any proof yet they're right?I'll answer that for you ......................... No FACT.


Yes, Every year after the results are released

By:
LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 19 Nov 12 09:58
Ok what about this year any proof?
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 19 Nov 12 09:58

Nov 19, 2012 -- 9:56AM, squares wrote:


If they'd played it sensibly Tulisa's voting appeals shouldn't have been necessary.


Dunno. Girls just don't get many votes in mid series. Never have

By:
squares
When: 19 Nov 12 09:58
plenty of clues the leaks have been pretty much correct with the way the results have panned out since.
By:
Dizzy42
When: 19 Nov 12 09:58
But the song choices, performances etc. were SO dull...
By:
Dizzy42
When: 19 Nov 12 09:59
She was becoming worse than Rebecca Ferguson for being a singing candlestick and a one-trick pony.

And I love her voice.  I think she's one of the best they've ever had on this show.  But in the last 3/4 weeks they did very little to showcase her talents in the best possible light.
By:
squares
When: 19 Nov 12 10:00
Exactly, they played it perfectly with LM making them look young, fun, accessible, girls next door, etc.

A mixture of songs to appeal to a wide range of ages, done pretty much straight.
By:
LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 19 Nov 12 10:00
Her last effort was awful.  Told you all in my write up but even that got shot down in flames by some!

Thought she did better in the sing off myself though.  He sang another dreadful dirge and screamed.  Awful.
By:
Dizzy42
When: 19 Nov 12 10:01
James wiped the floor with Ella in the sing off in my view.  And I too thought Saturday night was awful for her...  Didn't get what everyone was raving about on Twitter.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 19 Nov 12 10:01
James was better in the sing off imo . Was far better prepared for it
By:
squares
When: 19 Nov 12 10:01
Everything with Ella become so dark and brooding.  The core voters don't mind changing up a song the odd time, but changing a song every week (and ultimately sounding the same every week) is overdoing it and being a bit pretentious tbh.
By:
Dizzy42
When: 19 Nov 12 10:02
If Cowell was there, his comments would have helped Ella no end.

I guarantee he would have said that she was coming across as too old for her age, need to have fun, try something different, be young, enjoy the performance etc.
By:
squares
When: 19 Nov 12 10:02
Ella was in bits when starting the sing off, she was all over the place and couldn't sing properly.
By:
LOU MACARIS TARTAN B
When: 19 Nov 12 10:02
Fair enough to each his own re sing off.

I thought they both sang well on Saturday but just ridiculous song choices, really bad.  And some like it!!
By:
Dizzy42
When: 19 Nov 12 10:03

Nov 19, 2012 -- 10:01AM, squares wrote:


Everything with Ella become so dark and brooding.

By:
Dizzy42
When: 19 Nov 12 10:03
Spot on Squares.  It was certainly switching me off - and I had a vested interest in her doing well!
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 19 Nov 12 10:03
I thought Ella was great on Saturday.   Performance makes very little difference sometimes
By:
squares
When: 19 Nov 12 10:03
Yes, and then the next week they would have done that - young fun more appealing Ella.  In the end, they've run out of time to do that.
By:
Dizzy42
When: 19 Nov 12 10:04
Her performance was great, in terms of her singing quality.  It was just so boring!
By:
Henry VIII
When: 19 Nov 12 10:04
“So do you think TPTB lost the plot or was this deliberate?”

I actually think they lost the plot a bit. Early slots were an advantage with a show ending after 11pm for the first time. But now we’re back to normal.

They didn’t think the Rylan banter would propel him so much (the Take That banter with the right section of the VT lined up to be re-shown had to be scripted). And Chris’s laser eyes would have propelled him after the judges started arguing about it – basically telling the public that this was a stupid attempt to derail him.
By:
GeorgeBrush
When: 19 Nov 12 10:04
I disagree, supported her from start to finish. Switching my vote to James now Lou Cool
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