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By:
Timber
When: 15 Nov 20 13:33
Nevada has criminal charges against it
The reason nothing is being settled because BF actually watch/read real news
Not the pathetic left wing dross that is wheeled out in the Uk

Release the KRAKEN

Not even Medusa's severed had can save the fraudsters!
By:
Timber
When: 15 Nov 20 13:34
Head
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 15 Nov 20 13:34
Betfair market has been wrong
throughout.

Using it to justify chance of
outcome is exactly what people wanted.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 15 Nov 20 13:36
Once again we see polls
are far better indicators,
however flawed they are, than
betting markets.
By:
Sica Dan
When: 15 Nov 20 13:36
Betway havnt yet settled  my bet on Biden,they wouldnt allow me £20 at 9/20.
By:
politicspunter
When: 15 Nov 20 13:46
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
55m
He won because the Election was ****. NO VOTE WATCHERS OR OBSERVERS allowed, vote tabulated by a Radical Left privately owned company, Dominion, with a bad reputation & bum equipment that couldn’t even qualify for Texas (which I won by a lot!), the Fake & Silent Media, & more!

Come on Betfair, Trump admits Biden won. Settle those markets please!
By:
Timber
When: 15 Nov 20 13:54

Nov 15, 2020 -- 1:46PM, politicspunter wrote:


Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump·55mHe won because the Election was ****. NO VOTE WATCHERS OR OBSERVERS allowed, vote tabulated by a Radical Left privately owned company, Dominion, with a bad reputation & bum equipment that couldn’t even qualify for Texas (which I won by a lot!), the Fake & Silent Media, & more!Come on Betfair, Trump admits Biden won. Settle those markets please!


There is a caveat at the bottom that says Twitter disputes this
Lmfao!!

By:
Timber
When: 15 Nov 20 13:55
Lin wood has got thisLoveExcited
By:
frog1000
When: 15 Nov 20 13:58
For state betting...

'Which party will win the popular vote in the named state at the 2020 US presidential election?'

This will not be known for sure until the votes are certified. For a bookmaker or an exchange to settle this before certification is a risk for the bookmaker or exchange.

An exchange or bookmaker is within its rights to decide, when assessing the chance of outcome, if it is willing to payout early.

It is very simple to understand.

NC they have assessed very little chance of a reverse. Maybe Nevada has, in their opinion, a bigger chance of a reverse. The odds suggest/suggested this.

Clearly if one state is reversed the chance of another reversing increases.

Why are people so desperate for an early settlement?

Be patient.
By:
politicspunter
When: 15 Nov 20 14:00
Total drivel. Betfair have already settled 44 of the 50 states.
By:
frog1000
When: 15 Nov 20 14:01
Because they made an assessment those 44 states are unlikely to be reversed. They were willing to take the risk.

It is not really that hard to understand if you put yourself in their shoes.
By:
politicspunter
When: 15 Nov 20 14:02
Betfair Exchange are not paying out "early". They are later than everyone else in settling including their own Sportsbook.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 15 Nov 20 14:03
Betfair are finding themselves
in a very contrived position,
Can't be long now

Tick tock
By:
politicspunter
When: 15 Nov 20 14:03
There is no risk, they just won't pay out.
By:
politicspunter
When: 15 Nov 20 14:04
Go on then Frog, tell me what the "risk" is in settling Nevada please?
By:
frog1000
When: 15 Nov 20 14:05
In your opinion. The markets tell us otherwise.

If there is NO risk why are the odds for different states different?

Why are they are all not just 1.01 to lay and no offers to back like when a football team is 10-0 up in the final minute?
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 15 Nov 20 14:06
Markets are wrong
By:
frog1000
When: 15 Nov 20 14:06
Explain why NC was shorter than Nevada?
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 15 Nov 20 14:07
He's 1.03 in pop vote..

He was 1.03 to win cali,
And that's settled

1.03 hawaii, ffs, and that's settled
By:
dave1357
When: 15 Nov 20 14:07
live lawsuits in

alabama
california
north carolina
texas

all settled
By:
politicspunter
When: 15 Nov 20 14:07

Nov 15, 2020 -- 2:05PM, frog1000 wrote:


In your opinion. The markets tell us otherwise.If there is NO risk why are the odds for different states different? Why are they are all not just 1.01 to lay and no offers to back like when a football team is 10-0 up in the final minute?


The prices are totally irrelevant. These markets have been settled by everyone except Betfair exchange. Even Betfair Sportsbook have settled them, the same company.

By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 15 Nov 20 14:08
The settled markets on states
mean they should settle pop vote

But they ain't.. Yet
By:
kevinglass
When: 15 Nov 20 14:08
By your thinking frog, every market has to be 1.01 before pay out, which is clearly not the case, in this or any other market.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 15 Nov 20 14:10
People that think markets are perfect
must never ever bet.
By:
frog1000
When: 15 Nov 20 14:13
Those prices are not irrelevant.

If they were not relevant the NC prices would have be the same as Nevada.

I am amazed that gamblers cannot understand simple probabilities and risk.
By:
politicspunter
When: 15 Nov 20 14:14
I do understand them. There is no risk, none at all.
By:
politicspunter
When: 15 Nov 20 14:15
Btw, was every single state that Betfair Exchange have settled at 1.01?
By:
frog1000
When: 15 Nov 20 14:15
If there is no risk the prices would be same. You would have backed them all into no offers. If not you some one else would have.
By:
politicspunter
When: 15 Nov 20 14:16
I haven't had a bet on anything since before the election and I certainly don't bet at 1.01 or similar.
By:
politicspunter
When: 15 Nov 20 14:19
Ah, unless you count my tenner on Beverley Callard at 30.0 to win I'm a Celebrity Laugh
By:
frog1000
When: 15 Nov 20 14:23
Someone would have though if there genuinely was zero risk.
By:
politicspunter
When: 15 Nov 20 14:26
Why? Put £100 on at 1.01 to win a pound less commission that might be paid out in a couple of months? You would probably be financially better off leaving it in the bank earning interest.
By:
llama1
When: 15 Nov 20 14:38
You will not get a 1% return by leaving your £100 in a bank for a couple of months?
By:
Sergeant Cecil
When: 15 Nov 20 14:40

Nov 15, 2020 -- 1:54PM, Timber wrote:


Nov 15, 2020 --  2:46PM, politicspunter wrote:Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump·55mHe won because the Election was ****. NO VOTE WATCHERS OR OBSERVERS allowed, vote tabulated by a Radical Left privately owned company, Dominion, with a bad reputation & bum equipment that couldn’t even qualify for Texas (which I won by a lot!), the Fake & Silent Media, & more!Come on Betfair, Trump admits Biden won. Settle those markets please!There is a caveat at the bottom that says Twitter disputes thisLmfao!!


It disputes the claims of rígging you plank.

Frog's been sent out to do Betfair's dirty work and is getting a hiding!

By:
politicspunter
When: 15 Nov 20 14:41
Well, you first of all have to weigh up what commission you are paying Betfair then guesstimate when they might pay out?
By:
politicspunter
When: 15 Nov 20 14:43
Maybe I should have said IF they pay out.
By:
frog1000
When: 15 Nov 20 15:15
I haven't been sent by anyone to do anything.

I am just offering my opinion as to why some markets are to be settled through logic.

If I was in Betfair's shoes I would not be paying out yet on any market where a reverse would cost a fortune to rectify.

Would all the people asking for an early payout be willing to pay the money back if the market is reversed?
By:
politicspunter
When: 15 Nov 20 15:23
Yes.
By:
kevinglass
When: 15 Nov 20 15:24
Without wishing to repeat ourselves......the President market cannot be reversed, because it has already met the rules required in order to be settled.

Betfair cannot possibly pay out on anything other than a Biden win, full stop.

I just wish they'd get on and do it.

The State markets are based on a different set of rules, as per the first post on this thread.
By:
politicspunter
When: 15 Nov 20 15:25
Besides, they are not an early pay out, they are now a late pay out, later than every other company.
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