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Why we have little to fear from ''No deal''

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By:
Fatslogger
When: 25 Jan 19 20:13
Did you read your own article yet or can’t you quite focus on it?
By:
moisok
When: 25 Jan 19 20:14
and a few little scare or wars to stir up - think of manufacturing possibilities there - particularly with the Aachen partners.  Lots of dosh in armaments.
By:
akabula
When: 25 Jan 19 20:19
It's simple FS, nobody in the UK or the EU will want to see any damage done to business.
An agreement of some sort will surface whilst negotiations continue after the break.
By:
moisok
When: 25 Jan 19 20:24
Industry and its suppliers are very very angry with how the Eu has gone about this.  Whilst Moneypenny played the tables without any chips
By:
Fatslogger
When: 25 Jan 19 21:37

Jan 25, 2019 -- 8:19PM, akabula wrote:


It's simple FS, nobody in the UK or the EU will want to see any damage done to business.An agreement of some sort will surface whilst negotiations continue after the break.


That’s really not what happens, no, although fortunately people who understand how international trade works won’t  let it get that far.

By:
Fatslogger
When: 25 Jan 19 21:39

Jan 25, 2019 -- 8:24PM, moisok wrote:


Industry and its suppliers are very very angry with how the Eu has gone about this.

By:
Fatslogger
When: 25 Jan 19 21:39
Is that why we’ve heard so much public comment from business saying that and so little criticism of the Tories?
By:
Fatslogger
When: 25 Jan 19 21:43
Oh don’t tell me, it was all in that Guardian article you linked too earlier, along with all the stuff about how broke the EU will be without the UK.
By:
akabula
When: 25 Jan 19 21:54
Sarcasm is the last resort of the loser.
By:
moisok
When: 25 Jan 19 22:18
SLOGGER and the rest of the lovers of the federal experiment fascinate me.  You would have thought they would be against a monolithic structure  controlling everyone from the centre by a small number of people

They are also told to submit to this federal experiment by the leader of the volk.  All operated far out of the reach of the uk - we only ever had 8 percent influence in the festering self seeking junta.
By:
lfc1971
When: 25 Jan 19 22:48
Ah , it doesn’t matter if the EU would take less of a hit per country than Britain
It’s inevitable that if you one country , Britain , and 27 countries , the EU
Then the higher percentage of trade will be between Britain and the EU
Of course that’s inevitable , it’s also meaningless

Why because when all is said and done any tariffs between Britain and the EU will mean losses or gains , it’s either a loss in one sector to the EU , which will mean a gain to Britain or a vice versa

Nothing changes although any gains and losses Britain makes are their own
Any gains or losses the EU make are their own
By:
donny osmond
When: 25 Jan 19 22:50
we have a bigger say over eu than we have over wto

and they are not even electedd


my coat has nine buttons but i only fasten eight
By:
lfc1971
When: 25 Jan 19 22:51
There is no freedom of movement between the WTO and Britain.  , thanks
By:
lfc1971
When: 25 Jan 19 22:53
You see you might as well say if Britain starts trading on its own with the rest of the world that s bigger percentage of its trade is between Britain. and the rest of the world
And therefore Britain has more to lose
That’s nonsense
By:
lfc1971
When: 25 Jan 19 22:55
It’s inevitable that percentage wise that will be the case , of course it’s inevitable
I am starting to think remainers like fatslogger are not capable of logical thought
By:
lfc1971
When: 25 Jan 19 22:57
Too harsh ? Well let’s see what tripe he comes back with next
By:
lfc1971
When: 25 Jan 19 23:05
You will have to learn to think for yourselves just a little bit

And not parrot meaningless phrases
By:
Fatslogger
When: 25 Jan 19 23:24

Jan 25, 2019 -- 10:55PM, lfc1971 wrote:


It’s inevitable that percentage wise that will be the case , of course it’s inevitableI am starting to think remainers like fatslogger are not capable of logical thought


It’s a pretty simple point that explains why the UK suffers more from no deal (answering a question I was asked) and all the knight’s move irrelevance you’re posting doesn’t conceal the fact that you’ve not addressed it. But points for criticising someone else for a lack of logical thought.

By:
Fatslogger
When: 25 Jan 19 23:34

Jan 25, 2019 -- 9:54PM, akabula wrote:


Sarcasm is the last resort of the loser.


I think you’ll find not addressing the points made is the last resort of the loser. Oh, hello aka.

The fond notion that the German car industry will make sure the UK is okay no matter what stupid things we do has been coming out from leavers for years. It’s why we were certain to get a really good deal and why the EU would cave in the moment we started negotiating and therefore we’d leave with a fully agreed trade deal in place (despite them normally taking a decent chunk of a decade to agree). That such an obviously already disproved notion is still being used as an argument is pretty revealing. I don’t know exactly what arrangements might be made on a no deal exit to say how we would continue to buy cars from Germany, neither do you and actually neither does anyone else, because those arrangements would have to be made in a total panic but for sure we’d have some incredibly challenging decisions to make and would be far from free to make any agreements we wanted. We’d have to impose the same tariffs for all cars from everywhere, according to WTO rules.

By:
Fatslogger
When: 25 Jan 19 23:37

Jan 25, 2019 -- 10:18PM, moisok wrote:


SLOGGER and the rest of the lovers of the federal experiment fascinate me.  You would have thought they would be against a monolithic structure  controlling everyone from the centre by a small number of peopleThey are also told to submit to this federal experiment by the leader of the volk.  All operated far out of the reach of the uk - we only ever had 8 percent influence in the festering self seeking junta.


Yeah, this is all straw men and hyperbole oh and not knowing what federalism is.

By:
lfc1971
When: 25 Jan 19 23:44
Fatslogger you are going to have to explain why Britain will suffer more from a no deal
By:
lfc1971
When: 25 Jan 19 23:59
We’re all ears ....
By:
moisok
When: 26 Jan 19 00:11
they can never see anything POSITIVE at all can they - meanwhile helping their masters try to smash up brexit

if that isn't working against the people of the uk I don't know what is
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 26 Jan 19 11:54
It's hard work reading posts from Fatslogger.

He's so smart no one knows what he's on about, which isn't a very clever way to present a case.
By:
donny osmond
When: 26 Jan 19 12:02
if hes demolished your arguments then its probably best to confirm your ignorance of the argument.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 26 Jan 19 12:08
That's my point Donny, he hasn't demolished or established anything.

Surely even you can understand that?
By:
donny osmond
When: 26 Jan 19 12:10
so why feign ignorance?
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 26 Jan 19 12:30
Why tell lies Donny?
By:
donny osmond
When: 26 Jan 19 12:31
so it isnt feigned?  sorry!
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 26 Jan 19 12:36
And I'm sorry that you seem so upset that you feel the need to apologise.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 26 Jan 19 12:37
That's something else you got wrong by the way.
By:
donny osmond
When: 26 Jan 19 12:39
even i know that isnt true!
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 26 Jan 19 13:05
It's unbelievable the tripe they spout to try and keep us in the EU.
Some body very powerful indeed wants to keep the UK in the EU.
By:
moisok
When: 26 Jan 19 13:22
they want our money so they can centralise their power even further - the army and tax laws proposals should give people a hint of where they are going

hegemony in europe for germany without a shot fired
By:
moisok
When: 26 Jan 19 15:59
The panic is breaking out junker and the rest starting to change their minds and crying FOUL about so called populism but the 30 european 'intellectuals' really show where they are going.

they must be very worried that when they lose our money they won't get paid!!

I wonder what they actually produce?  Apart from a load of panic knee jerk reaction to the fact their wonderful federalist experiment is going wrong

What next??!!

You see - the liberal elite have no answers - they are in trouble and they know it.
By:
moisok
When: 26 Jan 19 16:12
The decline of the failed experiment EU Empire started before we joined it. That is why they wanted us to join, to sort out the decline. With us in it, it gained the respect from the rest of the world. And the love of our money.   It started to lose the respect when the Germans started to gain total control and dominate the EU with the help of the French and leaving us out of all the major decision making. As a result the British people had enough and by a Democratic vote decided to leave. Now the Germans along with the French can't face the fact we are leaving, for ever   Bye bye.   The other thing that strikes me is when people vote the wrong way it is evil.  Anything that is critical or opposes them they screech and use their powerful propaganda instruments to flood the media to try and get THEIR way despite the fact they are not doing it the interests of the population but only their own narrow bureaucratic interests.
They shouldn't be attacking.  They should be examining why it is all going wrong and why people no longer believe them or in the euro project.
By:
akabula
When: 26 Jan 19 19:42
The fond notion that the German car industry will make sure the UK is okay no matter what stupid things we do has been coming out from leavers for years

FS missing the point and resorting to his usual sarcasm. What people are saying is the German car industry will put pressure on the German government to make sure they are okay. Similar with anyone who exports goods to the UK. Tis in their interest.
lfc is right btw. You are so blinded by a hatred for the UK or a love for the EU or maybe both that you are not capable of logical thought.
By:
politicspunter
When: 26 Jan 19 19:45
lol, what an aarse you are.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 26 Jan 19 19:47
More abuse from politics pauper as he loses his temper again.
By:
moisok
When: 26 Jan 19 19:48
How is it looking now?  EU heading for recession a good time to leave. Business activity slowing down  at start of the year as a fall in new work meant growth was at a low not seen since the middle of 2013, a survey showed on Thursday. The findings will make disappointing reading for policymakers at the European Central Bank who have only just drawn a line under their more than 2.6 trillion euro asset purchase programme that was supposed to support growth. This makes me laugh  - spending all this dosh to just keep them where they are. They are predicted to leave interest rates on hold later on Thursday and expectations for when they will start tightening monetary policy were pushed out in a Reuters poll last week as the likelihood of a recession has risen.
And they want to print more euros.
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