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moisok, I honestly haven't got a clue what you are on about.
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and if akabula knows what you are on about, lets hear it.
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how do you know? Have you lectured on it?
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Because that's how article 24 works. I know Brexiteers struggle with this, looking how things actually work rather than how they hope they work, but again when it comes to what the UK should actually do you've got to come up with substance not fantasy.
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I'm afraid that's n88uk's hopeful fantasy of how Article 24 works, and not how it does work.
Here is the substance again explained by an expert just as I set. https://brexitcentral.com/managed-no-deal-wto-option-using-article-24-gatt-can-avoid-raising-tariffs-quotas/ |
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They are wrong. Well they actually just ignore the relevant parts to why it wouldn't work. Article 24 is basically so say it's gonna take x time to agree to a deal, so you do this in the interim while it's being fleshed out, but under no deal you wouldn't do this. And also the UK cannot do this unilaterally, the EU would have to agree and say yes there is x deal in the pipeline.
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nothing will change if we leave in March on no deal ,
common sense . |
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Also, do you want nothing to change? I thought the point of Brexit was that things did change.
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to quote the lovable or unlovable hardline brexiteer ,trade sec dr liam fox this morning on sky
IF WTO TERMS WERE SOGOOD ,WHY WOULD EVERYONE BE TRYING TO STRIKE DEALS, FREE TRADE DEALS OUTSIDE OF WTO TERMS even fox is seeing the light and isn't joining the GULLABLE FOOLS NO DEAL,NO PROBLEM CLUB |
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It depends on the trade deal , not all free trade deals are the same
The UKs free trade deal that we have with the EU now is a bad deal |
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To take no deal off the table would be extremely damaging for the UK's position in negotiating a satisfactory deal.
Even the possibility that no deal would not be implemented, has damaged the UK's position in the negotiations. Without the option of no deal, the UK has to take whatever the EU chooses to offer, but can't leave it. So in that situation the EU simply have to hold out in order to get their own way and impose whatever they like on the UK. Taking no deal off the table, is to undermine the whole negotiating process from the UK's point of view. Which is exactly why the no deal-no way stance is so treacherous to the interests of Britain. |
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The PM has no credibility anymore. No-one believes her. She's going back to argue against her agreement. She is completely untrustworthy. To be even-handed, you have to admire her absence of ego, she doesn't care how ridiculous she looks.
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The EU would be mad to agree anything else at this stage, especially with Theresa May.
But the backstop is also an existential matter for the EU. The UK would exploit the Irish border to undermine the SM and threaten the EU itself. |
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THOUGHT the negotiating position of ERG, hardline brexiteers was when we leave on no deal terms, uk and eu will be desperate to sort out a trading deal ASP,so having no deal as a negotiating chip aint worth a dime as proved by it been on the table 54 days before exit and 10 days before treason comes back to the commons
having no deal as a hammer to break the EU, got the ERG a deal that went down in history as the largest defeat in commons,it could not have been worse if no deal was taken off table the day after the reff |
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we negotiated a deal
it was the tories wot dun it. it was rejected even the prime minister mrs mayhem voted against it now she says she wants to deliver brexit on time ! |
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if you are negotiating based on strength of your hand, its best
not to show your cards before entering negotiations. if other side know your cards anyway then it doesnt matter so much. |
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If we sweep round scotland and into the North Sea we can take Herr Merkel and her corrupt eu in the flank.
hope this helps |
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they won't be expecting that!!!
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