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rancid. no other description. the clairvoyents got the lot.
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Sometimes you wonder,given the betting patterns there,do some people know whats going to happen before it happens?.
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What are you saying keen leader? I've been told on here many times that Gigginstown horses are 'always' trying.
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He wasn't that impressive at Galway and needs 3 miles never mind 2 miles........priced on reputation and connections.
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Yh I agree he wasn't impressive at Galway and his Jumping was much like today.
However he was priced short this morning and then all of sudden 5 mins before the race there comes a massive drift out to near 3.0. Now fair enough he prob is a 3 mile chaser but he didn't seem to travel even 1 mile out. I am sure he is better than that! |
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A half decent pace in a 2 mile race was going to catch him out early on......That mare isn't too bad and kept the pace on to get him in trouble......Another overrated gigginstown horse perhaps.
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A young 4yr old should more than pay his way but certainly not as good as I would have hoped.
In hindsight I was sucked into the profile rather than evidence on the track. Still a sucker for "sexy" types ![]() |
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I wouldn't worry about it Ruby......lots of lads getting lost in the gigginstown bubble.......reputations, price tags,always trying etc..........Don Cossack will cheer the fan club up tomorrow.
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I'm fairly sure I said it before on here that Rogue Angel jumped quite stickily when he won is p2p. Two miles against decent types was never going to see him in the best light. The betting predicted as much though he should have ran much more respectably all the same.
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Spot on allduckornodinner.
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HUGE DAY
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Wouldn't be too dishearted with Bonisland there, its very bad ground and he is only a weak 4 yr old. Its a credit he ran so well actually.
Elliott said he would let him grow after his first few runs but obviously changed his mind. He a very decent horse and time will prove that. The less said about the 2 in the first race the better. Hopefully Don Cossack will lift the gloom |
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Was it wise to run a weak 4 yo in that ground today Ruby??Could leave its mark.?
I remember last year when they ran Make you mark against Boston Bob in a bog,it finished his season. |
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Yes I personally feel they are far to aggresive with certain horses.
But then look at Sir Des Champs and Sword of Destiny. Campaigned very astutely and even Un Atout only ran once last season despite arguably the best bumper horse in Ireland. |
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I would love to see SDC run in the King george-much better option for him, long term, than a Lexus in the mud probably(if that's the plan??).The John Durkan is on the 9th Dec,so perhaps a bit soon but wouldn't be surprised if they ducked Flemenstar??Any news on probable races for SDC??
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Yes I completely 100% agree. King George is perfect for me and I can't understand the fascination with the Lexus. The King George is a far more prestigious race and a race Irish Horses that have pure class should be aimed at.
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Nice to see the engine is still there for Don Cossack.
I think he blew up actually after jumping to the front and his jumping was sketchy but never looked like falling. A 100% pure chaser but nice to see him win so easily on debut against a solid horse. 10l distance back to the rest. Very happy with that. |
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That a boy Davy!!! Tofino Bay wins the Troytown
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Sword of Destiny wins very easily.
Great stuff!!! |
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I see First Lieutenant is left in the Hennessey, That would be a very interesting ride for Davy at Newbury. Would be a perfect race for him.
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Is not running in the Hennessey
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Disappointing but I see Magnamity is going to run. Thanks BJG
Anyone have Mullins Stable Tour from the RP, what does he say about Giggy horses? |
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FL still entered today mind - said last week he was nt runnin tho
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Trainer Mouse Morris has confirmed that First Lieutenant will not run in the Hennessy Gold Cup at Newbury on December 1.
Bookmakers have him high up in their lists for the prestigious handicap, but Morris has been put off the idea. "He won't be going over for the Hennessy," said the County Tipperary handler. "He's rated higher over there now so I'm not tempted. "We'll just have a sit down and see what's next." First Lieutenant ran a blinder in the JNwine.com Champion Chase at Down Royal when finishing second behind Kauto Stone. |
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Mouse Morris will wait until the middle of the week before deciding whether to let First Lieutenant run in the Hennessy on Saturday.
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It's a no brainer for me....let him have a shot at a big handicap over 3 miles on a big galloping track.
He isn't good enough to win Grade 1's currently. He could go for the Hennessey and then have a look at the Grand National with him. He stays all day, his jumping is solid and has undoubted class. Big handicaps in England are the way to go. |
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The Hennessy is over 3m 2f and a bit and to me he doesn't look an out and out stayer to me. Bobs Worth ran away from him up the hill at Cheltenham in the RSA. Yes he was a bit keen in the race but to my eyes Bobs Worth outstayed him. I may be wrong but i think 3 miles is as far as he wants.
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Tempo du Camp (1/5) looked as if he never saw a hurdle before,mistake first gone second,looks on that showing to keep miles away from.
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I have never seen a horse do that at the first two flights,anybody hoping for a "quiet one" there had their plans dashed.
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Tempo Du Camp, who was sent off the 1-5 favourite on his first start for trainer Willie Mullins, has sadly had to be put down following a fall at the second hurdle in the 1.20 at Limerick. It was the five-year-old's first start since May 2010.
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Anyone know why Quito wasn't given a Hennessy entry? 3m 2f on soft ground, off a reasonable mark imo, would have been the horse to beat.
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First Lieutenant runs but Brian Cooper rides
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**** Sake a 1/5 shot falls on debut and Dies
. Sick game, I say there furious with that. DisasterMassive day tomorrow for the team. Bright New Dawn my dark horse for the year runs in the maiden hurdle with Ned Buntline and Lord of Lords. A fantastic race in prospect. I saw him at Naas and he was one of the most beautiful looking horse I have seen in a long time. He be around 5/1...defintely having a few euro's on him e/w. Midnight Game returns and lets hope the mess connection made of him last season aren't remembered. Far Away so close and Beef To Heels both finding winning form should both run well for very good pots. Panther Claw interesting to see if the hype is still justified...runs in a hot race with a dog in Micky D over fences and a very questionable jumper in Mount Benbulben Bog Warrior runs in a handicap hurdle and its a wise move from connections. Pity he been a ****g disaster ever since Xmas last year when they asked him to do something he hated. ![]() Trifolium/Magnamity and First Lieutenant all run in England and all should run well and some well into the money. I think this maybe First Lieutenants day!!!! Midnight Oil looks a no hooper in the Novice on Sunday. Dedigout looks to be a better Bog Warrior IMO in a class pure class renewal of the in the Drinmore, all incredibly exciting Grade 1 Horses here. Dedigout very exciting. Si C'etait Vrai another in a Grade 1 hope he runs well Outlander for the Mullins combo and lets hope the jockey isn't trying to smart like a few weeks back on a point horse with a similar profile. Looks a hot contest! A fantastic weekend in store for all Giggy Fans On a side note, Un Atout has been entered for the past few weeks and yet to run. I hope connections don't act the bollicks and try to be smart and go straight for A graded race before he has even seen a hurdle. Take your maiden hurdle and then look up jump straight on top of the mountain |
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Ally Cascade also won and nice to see him going the right way.
On a seperate note. Rich Ricci has some set of animals....boy he buys very well! |
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Giggy also bought Hartside from John OXX and a new horse from France called Un Volt
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Volt Sun apolgises
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Bright New Dawn has paid for xmas Big win for me and Dessie Hughes is just the man at the moment. Dessie will be having a few more fine prospects coming his way after the last week of results.
Midnight Game was sensational on his return and he will progress well. I said before his run last year I thought he could be a champion hurdle horse for the team and finally he has delivered some of that promise I had for him. Great also to see Bog Warrior win again and hopefully they are wise with him now. First Lieutenant ran a stormer in the Hennesey as I said last weekend I thought it was the perfect race for him. If only he was a bit wiser with himself he could have won. Jumping was incredible when right and very iffy when not. I love him to learn how to settle in front but Mouse will get him right. |
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Dedigout is very strong in the market tomorrow. Personally I thought Buckers Bridge and himself would be around co fav and Arvika Legionairre back a point and a half. I guess there is massive confidence!
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i think you're wrong about midnight game ruby ,i had a look at him in the paddock today a little on his toes for my liking...i ended up backing him simply because i thought they had him right , having taken their other runner out , this was the one....i think this fellow is best fresh , he might win another soon , i'd then forget about him ..thats my opinion of him anyway...i saw the winner of the champion hurdle today alright , it wasn't midnight game ...the horse that impressed me most was contrywide flame in the fighting fifth ...he was very impressive today and with better ground should be even better ...get on now....
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Arvika very impressive
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