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By:
ericster
When: 17 Nov 20 14:55
hapsan, with regard to people following your's and dak's with real cash. I use your criteria as a starting point, that is all, and yes, I've done a couple of two-quidders. When I've had enough, and it doesn't take much, I won't lose a packet on it, I shall let it go.

You and dak have made me re-think a few things and I'm having a long hard look at it.
By:
ericster
When: 17 Nov 20 15:05
With regards to those listed for weds in the above table, right now I have issues with all of them, also, there's a hat-trick seeker in there.Mischief
By:
happysandwich
When: 17 Nov 20 15:26
the_dak
15 Nov 20 21:49
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I've just been through your first sheet and spotted an interesting pattern( I know this is a laying thread but this could be a good backing system) I looked at the form of all the horses that won a handicap for the first time and then went on to run in a handicap again.................No Regrets


Ericster,

There’s no doubt in my mind at all, dak is a good guy and I’m sure he will be along soon to clear up any confusion.

I think that was the day we had the Edith Piaf KARAOKE singalong?

Even had the words printed in English for those that can’t speak French.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&ei=OVyyX93LCvaEhbIPpt2e4A8&q=words+to+edith+piaf+no+regrets&oq=no+regrets+piaf+words&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQARgAMgYIABAIEB4yBggAEAgQHjoECAAQRzoGCAAQBxAeOgQIABBDOgYIABAFEB46CAgAEAgQBxAeSgUIBBIBMlDtblj9hwFg9a4BaABwAngAgAFUiAHDApIBATWYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6yAEIwAEB&sclient=psy-ab

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEmk7BEsliM
By:
ericster
When: 17 Nov 20 15:42
Confusion?
hapsan, there's nothing wrong dak.
I had a small bet on that Mount Windsor but not on his say-so.
It really was a standout.
Would be interested to know if I got the Gleno thing wrong, but I didn't like the look of it  anyway.Cry

You and dak flag-up certain situations and I go have look-see, because they make sense.
Credit to you both.

mucho mucho respect.
By:
Lucky Sod
When: 17 Nov 20 17:12
the_dak16 Nov 20 18:50Joined: 09 Jun 04 | Topic/replies: 309 | Blogger: the_dak's blog
happysandwich out of the three you posted on my latest back system  of (first life time win in a handicap )   gleno would not be included it won it's first handicap on Wednesday 27 February 2019
By:
ericster
When: 17 Nov 20 17:18
Lucky Sod, you are right but that was a h'cap hdl. Today was a nov chase, that's why I put it up.
I think it won it's first h'cap chase last time out.
Apologies all.Blush
By:
The Management
When: 17 Nov 20 17:23
Eric - The_Dak posted his "qualifiers" (to back) for today's racing - on this thread (previous page - page 10 on my view) at 19:29 last night.

He probably won't thank me for drawing attention to them - but he got off to a very nice start:

Tuesday 17 November 2020    12:33 Fakenham    Mount Windsor
Tuesday 17 November 2020    14:20 Southwell    Lexi The One
Tuesday 17 November 2020    15:40 Newcastle    Eagle's Foot
Tuesday 17 November 2020    18:45 Newcastle    Continental
       
Tuesday 17 November 2020    15:50 Southwell    Tom Tulliver  Going to dutch these
Tuesday 17 November 2020    15:50 Southwell    God Of Dreams
       
Tuesday 17 November 2020    17:45 Newcastle    Stealing Silk   Going to dutch these
Tuesday 17 November 2020    17:45 Newcastle    Broctune Red.....................i'm not including Irish racing or nusery handicps


Assuming his dutching totals a single stake - he's had winners at 5/6, 7/4 and 6/4, plus one loser (2nd & 6th on his dutched bet) so far.
Two races still to come - one of them dutched the othe a single selection.

It looks to be the best "spin off" from this thread so far - but not sure how much credit the thread can take because:
1) It doesn't relate to hattrick seekers! 2) He's backing not laying! DevilLaugh
By:
ericster
When: 17 Nov 20 17:46
Management, I have no idea how dak is doing on the sand, I'm only interested in the jumps, both dak's and hapsans methods ooze common sense. I'm just looking for the screamers.

I'm sorry, I've been through tomorrow's cards and all I can come up with is Phoenix Way, on a three-timer, and won it's first h'cap last time out.

This is so confusing, I'm sorry.
By:
The Management
When: 17 Nov 20 17:52
No worries - I thought you (and some others) were looking for *Daks Backs

*I just like saying that! Grin
By:
ericster
When: 17 Nov 20 18:02
Management,

I don't know how you could possibly think such a thing, let alone say it.

You dis-appointed me.

Had I been right, and surely it could happen, why not?
Was looking for discussion, that's all.
By:
ericster
When: 17 Nov 20 18:20
I've just gone through tmorra's cards again and all I can come up with is Forest of Sherwood, a hat-trick seeker.
If I was to lay it, and that's a big if, lay to back i/r maybe, what would I have running for me? Landofsmiles perhaps?
By:
happysandwich
When: 17 Nov 20 19:46
This is the_daks “Handicap Win LTO” latest update sheet.
I’ve done it at £10 level stakes for clarity. If anyone wants to start dutching that’s up to them.

I’ll post HTS after the 7:45 race.

    Handicap Win LTO        £10 Win Stake                                           
            Horse Name        Finish        Odds        BFSP        Lost        Won   
    Monday 16th Nov                                                   
    Plumpton 2:20        Court Duty        NR                                   
    Plumpton 2:50        Midnight Glance        1st        15/8        3.00                £20.00   
    Plumpton 3:20        Cyclop        NR                                   
    Leicester 1:30        Rose Of Aghaboe        1st        11/4        3.95                £29.50   
                                                       
    Tuesday 17th Nov                                                   
    Fakenham 12:33        Mount Windsor        1st        5/6        1.87                £8.70   
    Southwell 2:20        Lexi The One        1st        7/4        2.90                £19.00   
    Newcastle 3:40        Eagles Foot        1st        6/4        2.49                £14.90   
    Southwell 3:50        Tom Tulliver        2nd        3/1        4.74        £10.00           
    Southwell 3:50        God Of Dreams        6th        14/1        18.40        £10.00           
    Newcastle 5:15         Tapeten Toni         4th        11/2        8.21        £10.00           
    Newcastle 5:15         Elland Road Boy        5th        7/4        2.89        £10.00           
    Newcastle 5:45        Stealing Silk        3rd        3/1        4.45        £10.00           
    Newcastle 5:45        Broctune Red        5th        2/1        3.51        £10.00           
    Newcastle 6:45        Continental        7th        3/1        4.04        £10.00           
                                                       
    Wednesday 18th Nov                                                   
    Warwick 12:55         Arian                                           
     Ffos Las 13:05        Little Red Lion                                           
    Ffos Las 13:05         Lamanver Bel Ami                                           
    Hexham 13:20         Discko Des Plages                                           
    Hexham 3:40         Wind Of Hope                                           
    Hexham 3:40        Kilcaragh Boy                                           
    Kempton 16:25        Vitalline                                           
                                                       
    Thursday 19th Nov                                                   
                                                       
                                                       
                                    Totals        £70.00        £92.10   
                                                       
                            Losers        7                   
                            Winners        5                   
By:
happysandwich
When: 17 Nov 20 20:04
    WEEK 5                                                           
            Horse Name        Position        Odds        BFSP        Lost        Won           
    Sunday 15th Nov                                                           
    Punchestown 1:05        Buildmeupbuttercup        1st        3/1        4.42                        No Bet   
    Punchestown 1:05        Daylight Katie        5th        9/1        12.60                        No Bet   
    Fontwell 12:25  (Novice H.)        Lord Accord        UR        13/8        2.77                £10.00           
    Cheltenham 2:25        Put The Kettle On        1st        7/4        2.73        £17.30                   
    Cheltenham 4:05        Weseekhimhere        3rd        10/11        2.01                £10.00           
                                                               
    Monday 16th Nov                                                           
    Leicester 1:00        Breffniboy        1st        15/8        3.08        £20.80                   
    Dundalk 3:45        Saltonstall        1st        9/4        3.75        £27.50                   
                                                               
    Tuesday 17th Nov                                                           
    Southwell 12:20        Ustath        1st        15/8        2.97        £19.70                   
    Southwell 3:50        Pearl Of Qatar                        4.72                £10.00           
    Fakenham 2:03        Limited reserve        3rd        11/1        13.50                        No Bet   
    Newcastle 7:45        Burrows  Seeside        3rd        7/4        3.03                £10.00           
                                                               
    Wednesday 18th Nov                                                           
    Ffos Las 1:05        Robin Of Sherwood                                                   
    Warwick 2:05        Phoenix Way                                                   
    Hexham 2:30        McGinty's Dream                                                   
    Kempton 6:55        Johan                Totals                 £85.30        £40.00           
                                                               
    Thursday 19th Nov                        Losing bets         4                           
    Market Rasen 12:30        Stoners Choice                Winning bets        4                           
    Newcastle 3:20        Caen Na Coille                No Bets        3                           
                                                               
                                                               
                            Weekly                                   
            Lost        Won        Profit                                   
    week 1        £28.90        £140.00        £111.10                                   
    week 2        £73.38        £110.00        £36.62                                   
    week 3        £40.70        £90.00        £49.30                                   
    week 4        £123.60        £120.00        £3.60                                   
    week 5        £85.30        £40.00        £45.30                                   
                                                               
    Totals        £351.88        £500.00                                           
                                                               
    Over all profit        £148.12                                                   
                                                               
By:
ericster
When: 17 Nov 20 20:05
Gentlemen, dak and hapsan, it looks as though I've mis-read your criteria and am making it up as I go along.
I think I did say somewhere that you both were talking perfect sense and that I would take what I could from your postings.

dak, you didn't select Gleno.

And hapsan, you haven't put up  Robin of Sherwood.

I just read both you criterias and came up with them.

I'm sorry, shall just keep posting the odd one that I fancy or get involved with if and when with without attaching your names to them.
By:
happysandwich
When: 17 Nov 20 20:48
Ericster,

I have put up Robin Of Sherwood but almost missed Phoenix Way if you hadn’t spotted it. Cheers.

The reason I started this thread, apart from creating a bit of fun, is whenever  I backed something that had won its last two races they always seemed to get beat. I have no idea if it will show a profit long term.

Thought I would put the rules up again for clarity.

RULES
1.  Lay any horse that is going for a hat trick at odds NO BIGGER than BFSP 6.00
2.  Anything bigger than BFSP 6.00 – NO BET
3.  Two or more horses running in the same race – NO BET
4.  Lay to win a fixed amount e.g. £10
By:
the_dak
When: 17 Nov 20 22:16
L.S got it right i'm doing back system  of (first life time win in a handicap ) that then run in another handicap personally i'm leaving nursey handicaps and selling handicaps out..... Gleno would not be included it won it's first handicap on Wednesday 27 February 2019
By:
happysandwich
When: 17 Nov 20 22:55
The_dak,

(first life time win in a handicap ) that then run in another handicap personally i'm leaving nursey handicaps and selling handicaps out.

That makes it perfectly clear to me but I’ll leave it to you to post them up and I’ll put the results in the chart.

Thanks and good luck
By:
ericster
When: 18 Nov 20 08:55
HAPSAN...

Up to my seeing this thread, and it was quite by chance, I hadn't looked the nags for years, must have been almost twenty years now. I was a never "problem gambler", no sh1t or bust wagers, I just couldn't get anywhere with it and so, I gave up. Then I saw this thread-header and it made perfect sense, no it's not a licence to print money but, anyone who knows anything about handicapping, even me, will know that handicaps have, at the very least, a penalty-value. I shall say no more on the subject.

DAK...

The thought of first time handicap-winners following up with another win had never occurred to me, not sure that this is, in it's entirety, is a licence to print money either.

And so I shall attempt to play your rules my way. Re: Gleno, Maybe I over-thought that one but if could have felt a bit more positive about the prevailing conditions I'd have gone for it, my adaptation of  YOUR rules. I don't like sellers or nurseries/mdns/juveniles either.

No too bothered whether I play or not, but I'm happy to remain here and, if it's okay with you guys,  throw my hat into the ring occasionally.
By:
happysandwich
When: 18 Nov 20 10:29
Ericster,

I’m also keeping my eye on this system, especially if they match up with any of the_daks selections.

https://forum.punterslounge.com/topic/3-quick-system/page/471/

“The Reasoning The reasoning behind this system came from my interest in athletics. There is a very thin line between peaking and getting injured. You can only peak for a short period of time you then have to come back down again or risk injury. You can then build back up again to peak for another race in the future. A Racehorse is without doubt a superb athlete. So using the above principle The idea is that a horse that has won its last race can be turned out again quickly while still at a peak and get another race in maybe also beating the handicapper before he can penalise him. Obviously the trainer will not turn him out again quickly if he thinks he is feeling the effects of his recent run ( coming down ) and risk getting injured. hence the high amount of Non-Runners.”

Basically it’s backing a horse to win that’s won a race and is running again less than 7 days later.

His most recent selection was BREFFNIBOY who ran 11th Nov ’20 before this win on 16th.
Monday 16/11/2020
Leicester 01:00 BREFFNIBOY
f/c. 2/1
Stake =  10 pts. WIN
By:
ericster
When: 18 Nov 20 11:14
hapsan, Breffniboy's run and of course dak's selection alerted me to the possibility, again, it's not the be all and end all.

Because of what happened there, the conditions of Mount Windsor's race could not be ignored.

The upshot being:
A first h'cap wnr having won easily, re-appearing quickly, with just a 7lb penalty and especially with a claimer up, plus one or two other considerations, make it a goer.
Again, I'm cherry-picking, only the absolute screamers get the vote.
Trying to avoid the losers.

Your's and dak's systems, over time, may well be profitable. There is every reason for them to succeed,can't think why they wouldn't, they're based on good reasoning imo.
But following such plans, making numerous bets every day, wnrs lsrs swings and roundabouts, not my thing.

The occasional good thing [wouldn't that be something] that ultimately one might "lump on", betting-bank permitting, appeals to me.

Always a pleasure to read the comments of you guys and if occasionally I venture to dis-agree, I do so with the very best of intentions and the utmost respect.
By:
stridingedge
When: 18 Nov 20 12:44
its no secret the quick return thing to anyone with a database

but if brefini boy came out again within 7 days again on bad ground I'd lay the fook out of it now!

In fact as I haven't taken part financially in it to this point yet just in the comp it's one I have laying in mind given thr right price next time out especially on bad ground, proper testing ground if that's what it races on.

Horses returning less than a week later to the track are the biggest single positive influential factor statistically significant in results.

You still need to treat them as individuals though.
By:
happysandwich
When: 18 Nov 20 18:17
Two nice winners today 7/1 & 11/4
Five lost but still showed £54 profit.

I’ll post the HTS sheet up after Kempton 6:55 Johan

    First ever Handicap        £10 Win Stake                                           
     Win LTO                                                   
            Horse Name        Finish        Odds        BFSP        Lost        Won   
    Monday 16th Nov                                                   
    Plumpton 2:20        Court Duty        NR                                   
    Plumpton 2:50        Midnight Glance        1st        15/8        3.00                £20.00   
    Plumpton 3:20        Cyclop        NR                                   
    Leicester 1:30        Rose Of Aghaboe        1st        11/4        3.95                £29.50   
                                                       
    Tuesday 17th Nov                                                   
    Fakenham 12:33        Mount Windsor        1st        5/6        1.87                £8.70   
    Southwell 2:20        Lexi The One        1st        7/4        2.90                £19.00   
    Newcastle 3:40        Eagles Foot        1st        6/4        2.49                £14.90   
    Southwell 3:50        Tom Tulliver        2nd        3/1        4.74        £10.00           
    Southwell 3:50        God Of Dreams        6th        14/1        18.40        £10.00           
    Newcastle 5:15         Tapeten Toni         4th        11/2        8.21        £10.00           
    Newcastle 5:15         Elland Road Boy        5th        7/4        2.89        £10.00           
    Newcastle 5:45        Stealing Silk        3rd        3/1        4.45        £10.00           
    Newcastle 5:45        Broctune Red        5th        2/1        3.51        £10.00           
    Newcastle 6:45        Continental        7th        3/1        4.04        £10.00           
                                                       
    Wednesday 18th Nov                                                   
    Warwick 12:55         Arian        1st        11/4        4.00                £30.00   
     Ffos Las 13:05        Little Red Lion        Fell                13.50        £10.00           
    Ffos Las 13:05         Lamanver Bel Ami        1st        7/1        8.40                £74.00   
    Hexham 13:20         Discko Des Plages        6th        3/1        4.80        £10.00           
    Hexham 3:40         Wind Of Hope        PU        28/1        52.60        £10.00           
    Hexham 3:40        Kilcaragh Boy        5th        6/1        7.00        £10.00           
    Kempton 16:25        Vitalline        11th        17/2        13.50        £10.00           
                                                       
    Thursday 19th Nov                                                   
                                                       
                                                       
                                    Totals        £120.00        £196.10   
                                                       
                            Losers        12                   
                            Winners        7                   
By:
The Management
When: 18 Nov 20 18:29
Hi Happy - I'm pretty sure The_Dak said no nurseries - which (just off the top of my head) would exclude at least 3 of the losers in your table above (Tapeten Tony & Elland Road Boy from yesterday & Vittaline from today).

Not too worried either way - but it seems to be going ok if you follow the rules he set out. Would probably be doing even better still if he looked at the number of days since last run imo. GL.
By:
the_dak
When: 18 Nov 20 18:34
Thursday 19 November 2020    13:40 Wincanton    Carys' Commodity
Thursday 19 November 2020    14:12 Wincanton    Bridle Loanan
Thursday 19 November 2020    14:42 Wincanton    Dollnamix
       
Thursday 19 November 2020    15:42 Wincanton    Sehayli
Thursday 19 November 2020    15:42 Wincanton    Raving Bonkers
       
Thursday 19 November 2020    13:30 Market Rasen    Glinger Flame
       
Thursday 19 November 2020    16:50 Newcastle    Get Boosting
                          16:50 Newcastle    Birkenhead (These last two both won nuseries at two but they both won proper handicaps lto.............   
                                                                                                       
two nice winners today 12:55 Warwick    Arian    Handicap Chase    won    11-4.
13:05 Ffos Las    Lamanver Bel Ami     Handicap Hurdle    won    7-1.
By:
ericster
When: 18 Nov 20 19:14
Looking good dak, well done.
By:
happysandwich
When: 18 Nov 20 19:53
The Management,

I don’t do any checking I just type them in as the Dak puts them up.
The_dak can explain why they’re in there.

Doing tonight’s sheet has been an absolute nightmare for me and I’ve spent ages copying & pasting to get the red minus data correct.
I have to cut & paste these around all the data in red.
Any box that has a formula in was the problem.

This at the front =
This after the amount =
By:
happysandwich
When: 18 Nov 20 19:56
^^^^
Don’t know how that ended up RED.

I think it’s taking the p1ss out of me.Cry
By:
ericster
When: 18 Nov 20 20:00
Well, fwiw, looking at dak's selections, have picked a couple out, and also found one I think, we shall see.
By:
happysandwich
When: 18 Nov 20 20:04
Just realized I hadn’t posted the week 5 sheet yet.
Not going to bother highlighting the black type.

    WEEK 5                                                           
            Horse Name        Position        Odds        BFSP        Lost        Won           
    Sunday 15th Nov                                                           
    Punchestown 1:05        Buildmeupbuttercup        1st        3/1        4.42                        No Bet   
    Punchestown 1:05        Daylight Katie        5th        9/1        12.60                        No Bet   
    Fontwell 12:25  (Novice H.)        Lord Accord        UR        13/8        2.77                £10.00           
    Cheltenham 2:25        Put The Kettle On        1st        7/4        2.73        -17.3                   
    Cheltenham 4:05        Weseekhimhere        3rd        10/11        2.01                £10.00           
                                                               
    Monday 16th Nov                                                           
    Leicester 1:00        Breffniboy        1st        15/8        3.08        -20.8                   
    Dundalk 3:45        Saltonstall        1st        9/4        3.75        -27.5                   
                                                               
    Tuesday 17th Nov                                                           
    Southwell 12:20        Ustath        1st        15/8        2.97        -19.7                   
    Southwell 3:50        Pearl Of Qatar                        4.72                £10.00           
    Fakenham 2:03        Limited reserve        3rd        11/1        13.50                        No Bet   
    Newcastle 7:45        Burrows  Seeside        3rd        7/4        3.03                £10.00           
                                                               
    Wednesday 18th Nov                                                           
    Ffos Las 1:05        Robin Of Sherwood        4th        3/1        5.22                £10.00           
    Warwick 2:05        Phoenix Way        1st        11/4        4.00        -30                   
    Hexham 2:30        McGinty's Dream        PU        5/1        7.00                        No Bet   
    Kempton 6:55        Johan        8th        5/1        6.83                        No Bet   
                                                               
    Thursday 19th Nov                                                           
    Market Rasen 12:30        Stoners Choice                                                   
    Wincanton 12:40        Beyond The Pale                                                   
    Newcastle 3:20        Caen Na Coille                                                   
                            Totals                 -115.3        £50.00           
    Friday 20th Nov                                                           
                            Losing bets         0                           
                            Winning bets        5                           
                            No Bets        5                           
                                                               
                            Weekly                                   
            Lost        Won        Profit                                   
    week 1        -28.9        £140.00        £111.10                                   
    week 2        -73.38        £110.00        £36.62                                   
    week 3        -40.7        £90.00        £49.30                                   
    week 4        -123.6        £120.00        -3.6                                   
    week 5        -115.3        £50.00        -65.3                                   
                                                               
    Totals        -381.88        £510.00                                           
                                                               
    Over all profit        £128.12                                                   
By:
happysandwich
When: 18 Nov 20 20:09
According to that sheet there were no losing bets and nothing had a £ sign on it.

So if any lost money gambling today - let me know and I'll try to help them out.
LaughLaugh
By:
the_dak
When: 18 Nov 20 20:19
Friday 20 November 2020    15:15 Ascot    Onefortheroadtom
Friday 20 November 2020    15:50 Ascot    Leostar
Friday 20 November 2020    13:40 Chepstow    Kapga De Lily
Friday 20 November 2020    14:15 Chepstow    Piggy Winkle
Friday 20 November 2020    14:50 Chepstow    Enzo D'Airy
Friday 20 November 2020    16:00 Chepstow    Sexy Lot
Friday 20 November 2020    12:05 Catterick    Airgead Suas
Friday 20 November 2020    19:15 Newcastle    Ballyare
By:
the_dak
When: 18 Nov 20 20:25
the_dak 16 Nov 20 19:29 

Tuesday 17 November 2020    12:33 Fakenham    Mount Windsor
Tuesday 17 November 2020    14:20 Southwell    Lexi The One
Tuesday 17 November 2020    15:40 Newcastle    Eagle's Foot
Tuesday 17 November 2020    18:45 Newcastle    Continental
       
Tuesday 17 November 2020    15:50 Southwell    Tom Tulliver  Going to dutch these
Tuesday 17 November 2020    15:50 Southwell    God Of Dreams
       
Tuesday 17 November 2020    17:45 Newcastle    Stealing Silk   Going to dutch these
Tuesday 17 November 2020    17:45 Newcastle    Broctune Red.....................i'm not including Irish racing or nusery handicps
the_dak 16 Nov 20 20:20 

Tuesday 17 November 2020    17:15 Newcastle    Tapeten Toni     Nursery
Tuesday 17 November 2020    17:15 Newcastle    Elland Road Boy    Nursery
           
Wednesday 18 November 2020    16:25 Kempton    Vitalline    Nursery  ..............i'm not sure about 2 year old nursery handicaps to me there could be many fast improvers at that age.                   
                   i definately meant i would not include nurseries
By:
The Management
When: 18 Nov 20 20:59
Fair enough Happy - I will butt-out - I have honestly been trying to help you and save you time & money though.

I think if you put half the time you are putting into your woes with spreadsheets & excel formatting - into selections instead - you might have a fighting chance!

I simply don't believe in "systems" or back-fitting data - so I will butt-out - but I'm finding it VERY ironic that The_Dak has provided you with a REALLY simple "system" - that has (so far) thrown up a hatful of recent winners from very few selections. Yet you don't seem that interested in even recording his selections accurately (let lone following them); because the complexities of the spreadsheets for your losing "system" are taking up all of your time.

Just an observation. GL.
By:
happysandwich
When: 18 Nov 20 22:10
The Management,

The post above yours The_dac has copied and pasted what he posted on the 16 Nov 20 19:29

They are the 10 selections that I copied into the spreadsheet, on that date in timed order, and the results of betting £10 win on each.

“Yet you don't seem that interested in even recording his selections accurately”

Where’s the inaccuracy I’ve recorded?

“I simply don't believe in "systems" or back-fitting data”

I’m certainly not back fitting data.

All I’m doing is recording the results of Laying horses that are going for a trick, to win £10 per bet.

Paper trading if you will.

If anyone wants to copy and paste the_daks selections into a spreadsheet feel free.

TM,

I’m not going to waste time arguing with you.

I’ve had enough and will only be doing my own from now on.
By:
top2rated
When: 19 Nov 20 06:16
FAO the_dak

Re:  Thursday 19 November 2020    13:30 Market Rasen    Glinger Flame


Glinger Flame's first handicap win was on 26/03/2019 at Hexham (15:40 race) so he wouldn't qualify as a selection today.
By:
ericster
When: 19 Nov 20 08:52
fwiw, I'm not keen on following systems, but I have to say that both theories have a place when looking at form, with all due respect to the dak I think that [influenced by dak but not on his list] I've found one, we shall see.

Again, fwiw, I DO like dollnamix but I shall go with what I have.
By:
The Management
When: 19 Nov 20 13:55
Love Loving The_Daks backs - almost as much as I like saying The_Daks Backs Love

Well done (again) Dak!
By:
ericster
When: 19 Nov 20 14:24
Haven't been watching, they're winning? I hope so, I've got a small interest in Dollnamix.
There, how's that for the kiss of death.
By:
The Management
When: 19 Nov 20 14:25
Hi The_Dak - I posted this (below) yesterday - I do think you need to have a look at the bottom line
of my post to improve your bottom line! Going along nicely though. Most interesting imo.
T
The Management18 Nov 20 19:29Joined: 27 Dec 00 | Topic/replies: 3,668 | Blogger: The Management's blog
Hi Happy - I'm pretty sure The_Dak said no nurseries - which (just off the top of my head)
would exclude at least 3 of the losers in your table above
(Tapeten Tony & Elland Road Boy from yesterday & Vittaline from today).

Not too worried either way - but it seems to be going ok if you follow the rules he set out.
Would probably be doing even better still if he looked at the number of days since last run imo. GL.
By:
The Management
When: 19 Nov 20 14:29
Hi Eric - yes, they seem to be winning quite relentlessly.
He is going through a cracking little spell and some very nice prices
- but I still think it might make sense to exclude the ones that have
had a long break from the track since that win that has triggered them as a bet.
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