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By:
McCoy Carp
When: 27 Jul 17 18:36
What a load of tosh that was. They'll blame it on the ground I suppose.
By:
easygold
When: 28 Jul 17 12:00
Noble Manners (7.10 Newmarket) a strong gallop over 7f on a stiff uphill finish could be ideal at last???.
By:
dibdob
When: 28 Jul 17 12:35
Ryan Moore has 3 rides today, all at decent prices. Very tempted by Galapiat and Yalta with both dropping in class.

Mister Manduro could go well too with some cut in the ground
By:
equine flew
When: 28 Jul 17 13:06
Masochist thread imo, however I am just as much a masochist for reading it every day.

I certainly admire your dedication to the cause lads.
By:
easygold
When: 28 Jul 17 14:12
nothing painful about this at all, if you stick to the right lines...
By:
McCoy Carp
When: 28 Jul 17 15:08
Ryan Moore has 3 rides today, all at decent prices. Very tempted by Galapiat and Yalta with both dropping in class.

I've backed Galapiat - hopefully they can't come that old chestnut with the ground today. There was another one I was looking at, but can't remember the name, but it was going from 6f to 7f & wasn't sure about the distance so left it.
By:
easygold
When: 28 Jul 17 15:11

Jul 28, 2017 -- 3:08PM, McCoy Carp wrote:


Ryan Moore has 3 rides today, all at decent prices. Very tempted by Galapiat and Yalta with both dropping in class.I've backed Galapiat - hopefully they can't come that old chestnut with the ground today. There was another one I was looking at, but can't remember the name, but it was going from 6f to 7f & wasn't sure about the distance so left it.


I say it was Noble Manners

By:
dibdob
When: 28 Jul 17 15:24
Yalta a non runner again. Transferred my stake on to noble manners. Breeding suggests a step up in trip should suit. May actually need even further in time
By:
McCoy Carp
When: 28 Jul 17 15:45
Ignore me, I'm losing my mind, not sure what horse it was, but it wasn't a Johnston horse.
By:
McCoy Carp
When: 28 Jul 17 15:59
Another load of rubbish.
By:
Platini
When: 28 Jul 17 15:59
Disgraceful stuff on Galipiat there. Is Ryan Moore now booked for schooling sessions ?  Crazy
By:
McCoy Carp
When: 28 Jul 17 16:04
I'd like to know what goes through Johnston's mind when he runs these horses. What he tells the owners when they run badly, especially when traveling a fair distance to racecourses. They must be very understanding and have money to burn. I suppose it will all change for Goodwood.
By:
easygold
When: 28 Jul 17 19:43

Jul 28, 2017 -- 12:00PM, easygold wrote:


Noble Manners (7.10 Newmarket) a strong gallop over 7f on a stiff uphill finish could be ideal at last???.


Before the off... ah come on Easygold what`s going on.

By:
dibdob
When: 28 Jul 17 23:46
WD easygold.

I'm guessing the 2 'schooling' runs by Moore today were in preparation for his big run on Nyaleti tomorrow. Looks likely to go in, but too short for me.
By:
easygold
When: 29 Jul 17 01:05
No worries.... Dibdod... just showing the guys it can be done and it`s not too painful.. 6/1 was nice
By:
McCoy Carp
When: 29 Jul 17 01:33
Well done easygold, just come in from work & seen this.
By:
dibdob
When: 29 Jul 17 01:33
I was on too at 11/2. Thanks for bringing to my attention!
By:
deadbrain59
When: 29 Jul 17 18:07
greedy job done 1.50 ascot, entry @ York g2
By:
deadbrain59
When: 30 Jul 17 12:10
listed gb, 1 win Permian 8/11,from 14 selections, france 1/1 Plain
By:
dibdob
When: 31 Jul 17 06:57
Nothing in the handjcaps for the 1st day of goodwood Surprised

It could be a nightmare if they've been given assignments later in the week in the hopes of better ground. We could have 4 or 5 in a race
By:
stridingedge
When: 31 Jul 17 11:23
Easy Gold wd with your winner Happy

Are the right lines this season stick to the 2yo's Laugh

I certainly know what I am looking for with the older handicappers

Anyone who has made a profit with his 3yo+ horses this season deserves a pat on the back, Have you ?
By:
stridingedge
When: 31 Jul 17 11:28
Tomorrow...

The fox had it's day at Ascot over the marathon slog that really suits, cannot see any hope tomorrow in that company.

Day 1 at GG as said no handicappers so left with an unraced 2yo and a G2 2yo, neither of which has any trends to jump on.
By:
deadbrain59
When: 31 Jul 17 12:06
I willback the sheiks group horses,cardsharp doesn't owe me anything gl Mischief
By:
dibdob
When: 01 Aug 17 14:26
Following the money on Mildenberger
By:
deadbrain59
When: 01 Aug 17 14:34
3rd.
By:
dibdob
When: 01 Aug 17 14:53
winner looks special
By:
McCoy Carp
When: 01 Aug 17 15:02
Easily beat my 2nd.
By:
dibdob
When: 02 Aug 17 08:42
2.25. Londinium had money in for it yesterday. 16s into 9s today. Lots of rain forecast which should suit, but the likely soft ground goes against Hochfeld. Sofias Rock could also improve for the soft ground. Not the big headache I was expecting. Londinium (10/1 now) with a saver on sofias rock
By:
jon b
When: 02 Aug 17 08:53
Titi   4 45, Makfi filly, should like the juice, prob try and make all from a decent draw, plenty unexposed obv but I do like this race hardened horse, I find Goodwood can be a difficult track to handle for many but Mj horses tend to act well there and I'm at least sure this one will handle it fine, played e/w to be on the safer side, Stoutes should be ultra competitive too
By:
stridingedge
When: 02 Aug 17 12:20
GG performance since BFSP some stats...

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3yo handicappers

    Bets        Wins        Win%        P/L(SP)        Place%        Race%        ROI(SP)        P/L(BF)        ROI(BF)        ROI(L)        Plc(BF)        Plc%(BF)        P/L(Plc)        ROI(BF Plc)        Lay(Plc)        ROI(L Plc)        BF A/E        BF chi        BFExpWins        AvgWinOdd   
    107        13        12.15        28        28.04        25        26.17        47.05        43.97        -2.89        33        30.84        15.57        14.55        -23.98        -6.26        1.53        2.57        8.51        10.38   



2-4 yard runners in race

    Bets        Wins        Win%        P/L(SP)        Place%        Race%        ROI(SP)        P/L(BF)        ROI(BF)        ROI(L)        Plc(BF)        Plc%(BF)        P/L(Plc)        ROI(BF Plc)        Lay(Plc)        ROI(L Plc)        BF A/E        BF chi        BFExpWins        AvgWinOdd   
    87        13        14.94        48        27.59        36.11        55.17        67.05        77.06        -5.1        27        31.03        19.05        21.9        -26.21        -8.67        2.01        7.09        6.48        10.38   


horses that have ran over farther than today's distance

    Bets        Wins        Win%        P/L(SP)        Place%        Race%        ROI(SP)        P/L(BF)        ROI(BF)        ROI(L)        Plc(BF)        Plc%(BF)        P/L(Plc)        ROI(BF Plc)        Lay(Plc)        ROI(L Plc)        BF A/E        BF chi        BFExpWins        AvgWinOdd   
    30        9        30        64.5        43.33        39.13        215        79.8        266.02        -15.86        14        46.67        21.21        70.71        -23.97        -21.51        4.25        24.03        2.12        10.5   


horses that have won over further than today's distance

    Bets        Wins        Win%        P/L(SP)        Place%        Race%        ROI(SP)        P/L(BF)        ROI(BF)        ROI(L)        Plc(BF)        Plc%(BF)        P/L(Plc)        ROI(BF Plc)        Lay(Plc)        ROI(L Plc)        BF A/E        BF chi        BFExpWins        AvgWinOdd   
    25        1        4        -16        16        5        -64        -16.62        -66.47        3.84        5        20        -3.87        -15.48        2.02        2.64        0.48        0.62        2.09        9   



horses runs in today's class or higher 0-1

    Bets        Wins        Win%        P/L(SP)        Place%        Race%        ROI(SP)        P/L(BF)        ROI(BF)        ROI(L)        Plc(BF)        Plc%(BF)        P/L(Plc)        ROI(BF Plc)        Lay(Plc)        ROI(L Plc)        BF A/E        BF chi        BFExpWins        AvgWinOdd   
    30        2        6.67        -9        10        8.7        -30        -3.93        -13.09        0.22        4        13.33        -16.08        -53.61        14.26        12.91        1.01        0        1.99        10.5   


horses runs in today's class or higher 2+

    Bets        Wins        Win%        P/L(SP)        Place%        Race%        ROI(SP)        P/L(BF)        ROI(BF)        ROI(L)        Plc(BF)        Plc%(BF)        P/L(Plc)        ROI(BF Plc)        Lay(Plc)        ROI(L Plc)        BF A/E        BF chi        BFExpWins        AvgWinOdd   
    57        11        19.3        57        36.84        35.48        100        70.97        124.51        -8.36        23        40.35        35.13        61.63        -40.47        -21.09        2.45        10.25        4.49        10.36   


horses within 0-7lbs of top weight

    Bets        Wins        Win%        P/L(SP)        Place%        Race%        ROI(SP)        P/L(BF)        ROI(BF)        ROI(L)        Plc(BF)        Plc%(BF)        P/L(Plc)        ROI(BF Plc)        Lay(Plc)        ROI(L Plc)        BF A/E        BF chi        BFExpWins        AvgWinOdd   
    33        9        27.27        50        33.33        34.62        151.52        58.56        177.44        -15.28        12        36.36        6.53        19.79        -9.03        -11.37        2.89        12.32        3.11        9.22   


horses 8lb+ off top weights

    Bets        Wins        Win%        P/L(SP)        Place%        Race%        ROI(SP)        P/L(BF)        ROI(BF)        ROI(L)        Plc(BF)        Plc%(BF)        P/L(Plc)        ROI(BF Plc)        Lay(Plc)        ROI(L Plc)        BF A/E        BF chi        BFExpWins        AvgWinOdd   
    54        4        7.41        -2        24.07        14.29        -3.7        8.49        15.73        -1.27        15        27.78        12.52        23.18        -17.18        -7.71        1.19        0.13        3.37        13   
By:
stridingedge
When: 02 Aug 17 12:24
will redo the font size messed it up
By:
stridingedge
When: 02 Aug 17 12:32


3yo handicappers

    Bets        Wins        Win%        P/L(SP)        Place%        Race%        ROI(SP)        P/L(BF)        ROI(BF)        ROI(L)        Plc(BF)        Plc%(BF)        P/L(Plc)        ROI(BF Plc)        Lay(Plc)        ROI(L Plc)        BF A/E        BF chi        BFExpWins        AvgWinOdd   
    107        13        12.15        28        28.04        25        26.17        47.05        43.97        -2.89        33        30.84        15.57        14.55        -23.98        -6.26        1.53        2.57        8.51        10.38   


2-4 yard runners in race

    Bets        Wins        Win%        P/L(SP)        Place%        Race%        ROI(SP)        P/L(BF)        ROI(BF)        ROI(L)        Plc(BF)        Plc%(BF)        P/L(Plc)        ROI(BF Plc)        Lay(Plc)        ROI(L Plc)        BF A/E        BF chi        BFExpWins        AvgWinOdd   
    87        13        14.94        48        27.59        36.11        55.17        67.05        77.06        -5.1        27        31.03        19.05        21.9        -26.21        -8.67        2.01        7.09        6.48        10.38   


horses that have ran over farther than today's distance

    Bets        Wins        Win%        P/L(SP)        Place%        Race%        ROI(SP)        P/L(BF)        ROI(BF)        ROI(L)        Plc(BF)        Plc%(BF)        P/L(Plc)        ROI(BF Plc)        Lay(Plc)        ROI(L Plc)        BF A/E        BF chi        BFExpWins        AvgWinOdd   
    30        9        30        64.5        43.33        39.13        215        79.8        266.02        -15.86        14        46.67        21.21        70.71        -23.97        -21.51        4.25        24.03        2.12        10.5   


horses that have won over further than today's distance

    Bets        Wins        Win%        P/L(SP)        Place%        Race%        ROI(SP)        P/L(BF)        ROI(BF)        ROI(L)        Plc(BF)        Plc%(BF)        P/L(Plc)        ROI(BF Plc)        Lay(Plc)        ROI(L Plc)        BF A/E        BF chi        BFExpWins        AvgWinOdd   
    25        1        4        -16        16        5        -64        -16.62        -66.47        3.84        5        20        -3.87        -15.48        2.02        2.64        0.48        0.62        2.09        9   


horses runs in today's class or higher 0-1

    Bets        Wins        Win%        P/L(SP)        Place%        Race%        ROI(SP)        P/L(BF)        ROI(BF)        ROI(L)        Plc(BF)        Plc%(BF)        P/L(Plc)        ROI(BF Plc)        Lay(Plc)        ROI(L Plc)        BF A/E        BF chi        BFExpWins        AvgWinOdd   
    30        2        6.67        -9        10        8.7        -30        -3.93        -13.09        0.22        4        13.33        -16.08        -53.61        14.26        12.91        1.01        0        1.99        10.5   


horses runs in today's class or higher 2+

    Bets        Wins        Win%        P/L(SP)        Place%        Race%        ROI(SP)        P/L(BF)        ROI(BF)        ROI(L)        Plc(BF)        Plc%(BF)        P/L(Plc)        ROI(BF Plc)        Lay(Plc)        ROI(L Plc)        BF A/E        BF chi        BFExpWins        AvgWinOdd   
    57        11        19.3        57        36.84        35.48        100        70.97        124.51        -8.36        23        40.35        35.13        61.63        -40.47        -21.09        2.45        10.25        4.49        10.36   


horses within 0-7lbs of top weight

    Bets        Wins        Win%        P/L(SP)        Place%        Race%        ROI(SP)        P/L(BF)        ROI(BF)        ROI(L)        Plc(BF)        Plc%(BF)        P/L(Plc)        ROI(BF Plc)        Lay(Plc)        ROI(L Plc)        BF A/E        BF chi        BFExpWins        AvgWinOdd   
    33        9        27.27        50        33.33        34.62        151.52        58.56        177.44        -15.28        12        36.36        6.53        19.79        -9.03        -11.37        2.89        12.32        3.11        9.22   


horses 8lb+ off top weights

    Bets        Wins        Win%        P/L(SP)        Place%        Race%        ROI(SP)        P/L(BF)        ROI(BF)        ROI(L)        Plc(BF)        Plc%(BF)        P/L(Plc)        ROI(BF Plc)        Lay(Plc)        ROI(L Plc)        BF A/E        BF chi        BFExpWins        AvgWinOdd   
    54        4        7.41        -2        24.07        14.29        -3.7        8.49        15.73        -1.27        15        27.78        12.52        23.18        -17.18        -7.71        1.19        0.13        3.37        13   


By:
dibdob
When: 02 Aug 17 12:33
At a quick glance those stats are pushing me more towards Sofia's Rock in the 2.25. Money now in for Hochfeld though

Also worth noting Moore has won on Sofia's Rock before and the horse has won well on soft before.
By:
stridingedge
When: 02 Aug 17 12:40
horses that have ran over farther than today's distance

should be  horses that have NEVER ran over further than today's distance!
By:
stridingedge
When: 02 Aug 17 12:46
The trouble with this meet is the general stats are so strong trying to pick and choose can lead you with utter frustration.

A lot of these today don't have the experience in the class which has been a positive, runs over the distance you would often expect the less the better but that isn't backed up at GG, experience over the trip doesn't seem that strong a factor though horses that have already been further don't seem as strong.
By:
stridingedge
When: 02 Aug 17 12:53
Titi very short now
By:
stridingedge
When: 02 Aug 17 12:59
Titi Makfi

3yo's in the 3yo+hcps that have won 3 or more races that season are 3-3, had a taste of a class 2 (only attempt) lto when you could say staying on ridden conservatively, handles all ground.

La Casa Tarifa

New trip which has been ok at this meet with 3yo's in the hcps and plenty of class experience which has been a positive. 5/4 fav last time and lost the race blowing the start! I could certainly not rule this out with any confidence.
By:
stridingedge
When: 02 Aug 17 13:09
when there's been 2 runners in the race (mistime nr now) 7-31, (1.97 expected), joe been on 3 of them including 12/1 (17 BFSP) Hawatif last season.

surprisingly only ever had 1 fav from these runners, almargo 3rd in 2014.
By:
stridingedge
When: 02 Aug 17 13:57
We can see the general stats for the 3yo's in these hcp races here are very strong but there are combinations of factors I'd usually look at that are incredibly good, unfortunately there are none today from a profile perspective. The runners very much have + and -'s and the strongest is easily found in the market (Titi Makfi).

in the 2:25, Sofias Rock is coming down from a group race which is a weak angle both generally and at this meet for the yards runners in good class hcps though the class experience has been a positive this move down has not been.has handled a variety of surface and does sit in the sort of ratings band off the top weight that has been strong.

Hochfield progressive and obviously stays very well, has already run and won over further which hasn't been a positive as noted earlier. Has no experience of the class which is also not a positive.Like SR has handled a variety of surface.

Londinium the more unexposed at conditions and was a bit of an eyecatcher after a slow start over shorter at chester last time.Like Hochfield no class experience but perhaps more untapped potential over this class and though at the bottom of the ratings, there have been winners at this meet in this range.He shouldn't be phased by the surface either.

As stated earlier none of these are the strongest on profiles but I'm prepared to give the 2 sheikh runners a go despite their lack of class experience. Londinium is the first choice with a saver on SDS Hochfield.

2:25 Goodwood Londinium, current odds 14.0
2:25 Goodwood Hochfield (£5), current odds 11.5

If the ground were faster I would definitely play La Casa Tarifa in the 4:45 but the trip and ground could well be taking it out of it's optimum now.
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By:
wondersobright
When: 02 Aug 17 14:01
be careful this is not johnston ground at all
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