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25 Jun 12
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Will he ever have another winner? 38 losers on the trot!
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is that why sir lazarus is in exile.....
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I have had his card marked for years..
Talk about lay to back.The price has gone 10 mins before his selection is posted... |
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37?
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39 even!
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Possibly the worst tipster of all time.
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Alot of losers but then he is only a tipster!
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Possibly the worst tipster of all time.
Possibly the most clueless post this forum has ever seen |
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laz luvs balls must be full to bursting and blue.
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I suppose the racing media need them to say or write something and fill spaces but your average punter is as right as they are.
If form worked out their would be no bookies and no sport. Many of them if not all are deluded but there is no need to share their delusion. Me? I ride my own good and bad luck and prefer my own judgement, its as good asa theirs. |
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Me? I ride my own good and bad luck and prefer my own judgement, its as good asa theirs
I would have my max bet of the year that your judgement isnt as good as Hugh Taylor's...in fact, i'm all in |
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duncan........moondan has the same formbooks and knowledge as hugh.
That makes them equal in my book. |
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ALL.IN.
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HT is a fantastic judge but he has these runs about 3 or 4 times a year and he has acknowledged this on twitter. It is just extremely frustrating as a follower. I have lost count how many 2nd and 3rds he has had over this period, must turn soon!
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Trust your own judgement and there is only one person to blame when things go wrong. Don`t blame jockeys, trainers, pundits, presenters or anyone else it only adds to the frustration. If you put the work in then good runs or bad runs you will hopefully end up being on the plus side.
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hopefully
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its about the year, not 1 month.
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OP: Thinly veiled, I have done my nuts on Hughs tips......
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Anyone know if Saint Hugh is on ATR today with his eyecatchers?
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He is possibly the worst because he can break so many punters rolls.
He backs outsiders with little recent form and they tend to be boom or bust. And boom or bust is how his punters will be. Most punters dont have a big tank. So when he goes on the inevitable long losing sequences many punters go busto! He may make some money for himself longterm but he has a paid job and big bankroll probably. The majority of punters would be better off with a tipster with less roi long term but more short term winners to keep them in business. Like an ordinary business that will fail if it runs out of cash. |
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The paradox that keeps the bookmakers in Bentleys is that most punters can better cope with a high strike rate that loses slowly, than a low strike rate that makes a profit, imo.
As for 'Sir Hugh', you only have to look slightly to the right of the selections, where the bookmakers are advertising their prices at vastly reduced odds to those advised, to see who is benefitting from the existence of this column, imo. Co-incidentally, obviously, it's the bookmaking industry whose patronage keeps this channel alive... |
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Hugh Taylor does a good job but how, with the level of crookery going on amongst a large band of stables, is he supposed to factor this into his selections?
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I think people on here are very harsh on some of the tipsters as I have a jokey thread going head to head with price wise and I have backed three winners in the last bets but thats the races tom tips in they are for the bookies benefit not the punter however I think hugh is a different matter as he tip everyday and he should have more success.
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*three winners in the last 50 bets.
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* 1250pt profit upto end of April 2012
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Was checking hugh's stuff a while back but stopped didn't really help my own thoughts much. It was impossible to get anywhere near the prices he quoted even if you looked the split second he posted which you really need to do to stand any chance of staying in credit with his tips. All credit to him for putting his tips out there anyway.
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exactly, bernie...the column's no good for punters cos you cant get the prices and there's also the danger he'll scupper one you were going to back anyway...but that is irrelevant in assessing whether Hugh is a good tipster or not...+1250pts tells you that.
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+1250pts on prices that don't exist. Genuis.
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Hugh Taylor is an excellent judge , obviously. I think what his column really tries to show is that it is possible to win to a level stake profit. you will never win following Hugh's selections because you will never get the advised odds consistently (only Hugh has that luxury). The only way to get best prices is to do your own selections. Of course any modicum of success and you will be barred. So actually you cant win backing horses. Guess that only leaves laying horses?
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+1250pts on prices that don't exist. Genuis
if he was just backing them himself, they would exist, obviously. |
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Sure, but if he wasnt writing a column for ATR I suspect he wouldnt get on for very long. Just like Tom Segal, Kevin Pullein and all the rest he is allowed to back to a given liability with the bookmakers because of his status.Without the column he'd just get knocked back after a short period of winning at his own best prices
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How does he manage to get on?
People on here moaning every half an hour that they cant get a tenner on at early prices but HT is +1250pts obviously very well known but has no hassle what so ever at getting on at any price. Or could it be that he is in cahoots with the bookees who then mug innocent mug punters who then follow his selections at ridiculous prices leaving both Hugh and the bookees in profits? You do know its near IMPOSSIBLE for Hugh not to be in profit long term if he keeps getting 2 or 3 points higher than the true price to level stakes. No doubt he does his homework and knows the time of day but he's not playing on a level playing field to the ordinary punter.If he was that good and getting on no problem he wouldn't need to be wasting his time with ATR. |
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What thompson says.
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Exactly S&C. Thats it in a nutshell. He cant be getting on without help. I know because sometimes ive tried to back horses the night before the moment the market opened with bookmakers and have been knocked from say 200 to a pony or even less or offered SP. The next day on occasions the same horses I liked and tried to back straight away were tipped by Hugh Taylor. Did he get on at best price? Maybe he doesnt care if its all just an exercise on paper and he gets weighed in for writing the column?
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He's on a no loser thompson. The only people losing are the punters that think he's some kind of betting God and follow his selections are bad prices.The same punters that then come on here hailing him Sir Hugh when he tips a winner. You couldn't really make it up.
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at bad prices *
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Winning with the bookmaking industry in the long term is not allowed, unequivocally.
By seeking to convince 'followers' that their tipsters can make them a profit from betting, these media platforms, all of which are funded by the patronage of the bookmaking industry, are knowingly misleading the public, imo... |
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Agree. At the end of the day ATR is a bookmaker channel. if Hugh was costing them money instead of making them money he wouldn't be employed, simple as. Hugh isn't putting people away intentionally .However, I'm sure he knows that there isn't a single punter in the country that is backing all his selections at prices that show a long term profit. He keeps saying his website is meant to be educational but then I guess he has to doesn't he? The only people getting money out of Hugh's site are Hugh and the bookmakers
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in judging his or anyone else's ability as a tipster, it doesnt matter how they get on....whether they employ a band of midgets or go in to the bookies in drag...the bookies put up prices, they tip and +1250pts is the result...nobody can argue with that
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