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**Paddy Power Gold Cup 2013**
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Plenty of 3 milers have won the pp
Imperial commander, exotic dancer...... Like you said he would need to improve. |
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When are the entries out for this?
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Module @ 16/1.
 No idea if he is an intended runner but with a shedload of rain about in the next few weeks to soften it up I'd expect him to be close to favourite on the day. |
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when are the entries ?
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30th Oct i fink
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Still no idea if Module is an intended runner but the weather forecast is for a nearly non stop rain this week and next so very soft ground is highly likely. He reminds me a lot of Tranquil Sea who sluiced up in really bad ground.
Not much liquidity but I had to take some of the 25/1+ on here just in case.  |
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Changing times and Our Father for me....
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Anyone with a view of the realistic chances of Simonsig, Dynaste or Flemenstar appearing in this race? Whilst it may seem an odd option to put Simonsig in a handicap, one might take the view that racing off 162, he is well handicapped. He earned his rating winning the Arkle not being right and is probably better than this.
Hendo tried to win it with Long Run after his novice season and failed off 158 though the trip was probably too short and it all happened a bit quick for him. Al Ferof hosed up off 159 though he came from a vintage crop of novice chasers. |
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I don't think anybody knows at this stage.
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be very surprised if any ran
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Festivalfanatic : DYNASTE is only entered if plan A doesn't work according to David Pipe in today's Stable Tour in the RP. Was available to lay in single figures for the past few days but not any longer after those comments. Trainers and owners do change their minds of course but i think it's safe to say in this instance that DYNASTE won't be running here .
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Thanks cc
Pipe senior used to love a tilt at this race, or maybe it was the sadly departed David Johnson....it was usually one of his. Simonsig would interest me off 162, even if he was carting top weight. |
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Keep your eyes on NDLT
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Our Father looks a good fit for the race.
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Going off Pipes comments, Salut Flo seems the most likely of his. In regards to Our Father he says he isn't even back in the yard yet, he's still at Timmy Murphys and looking at 3M+ chases like the Hennessey. Don't think he would have the pace for a Paddy Power personally and 147 seems a bit steep. 3 miles and a small field I think this horse needs, something like the 3 miles chase at Newcastle on fighting fifth day if he were mine
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Thanks sc1883 looks like iv dun my dough....Looks like the badger ale for Our Father a race pipe targets could go well in the Hennessy but always seems to bounce after his 1st run of the season so maybe the Hennessy will be his 1st run...
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our father definitely looks like one of those that has one run in him per season and I can see the reasoning about him being a hennessy horse but that race he won at Cheltenham for me fell apart it was run at a crawl he didn't fence that well and sire collonges was giving him 8lb he has since been well beaten off a mark of 147 our fathers mark at present for me the hennessy will get him out of his comfort zone will make too many mistakes and I cannot see him winning a hennessy
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Module for me too but I'm 0/20 in this race so take that tip how you will
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Colour Squadron is one of interest off 140, was given (lets just say) funny rides last season!
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Had to have nibble on Champion Court @ 26s, good record at course etc,should run well if making gig.
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Could it be a slightly sub-standard renewal this year? Not excited by anything really.
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Agree joci, hopefully im wrong but their is no exotic dancer/imperial commander/al ferof lurking in the waiting.
Going to give the Irish entries extra interest when they come out. |
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nobody knows what may, be lurking I was at Carlisle on the Monday of paddy power week when exotic dancer trailled in last of 3 beaten 28length behind turpin green he won the power like he had been just thrown into the race off the last bend, I had bet vodka bleu and couldn't believe it as for imperial commander I bet him but not a lot of what either horse had done before winning the power could tell you how good both would become
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Funny that, i backed ED to win the KG & GC before he won the PP
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Is the Venetia Williams horse KATENKA a definite runner if so very big price
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Agree that this will be a sub-standard renewal. I've backed Champion Court some time ago, but suspect he will need good ground to have a serious chance,
I've also been topping up on John's Spirit for a few days now. Won over C&D as he liked last time out, raised a reasonable 10lb for that to 139, handy form last season (behind Katenko for one) and would have finished much closer to Rajdhani Express at the Festival if he hadn't been blocked a couple of times. Form of that race has worked our pretty decently and he's proven over all sorts of ground. The trends would say I'm mad given that its been 12 years (Shooting Light?) since a horse won both showcase and the PP, but he's young, improving and I still believe on a very handy mark, so I'll take that trend on. |
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Yep, his profile fits.
I always follow that 2m4f chase that john spirit won with much interest. I think Poquelin won it then was placed in the pp after. |
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Katenko, is a good horse, but needs mud, & probably more mud. I doubt he is well treated by the handicap man at the moment. The stable has a habit of winning races with the like of Katenko when least expected! |
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Johns Spirit for me too. Looked an improver last year, didn't work out. Because of that still looks well h'capped .
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Makes me laugh when people are saying it looks a poor renewal, the entries aren't even out yet ffs lol!
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I think Ballynagour and Colour Squadron could be well treated. Looking forward to the entries.
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always a better race when the 'names' enter though.
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The Paddy Power Gold Cup
Class 1, Grade 3, £160,000 Total Prize Fund. 2.30pm, Cheltenham, Saturday, November 16, 2013. For 4yo+, two miles about four and a half furlongs. Entries closed, October 29, entries revealed October 30 (49 entries), weights revealed November 6. Penalties: after November 3, a winner of a chase 5lb (no penalty to increase a horse's weight above 11st 12lb). Five-day confirmation stage November 11, final 48-hour declaration stage 10.00am, November 14. Form figures supplied by Weatherbys and are correct up to and including the racing of Monday, October 28. Form Horse Age Owner Trainer 40F-452 ASTRACAD (FR) 7 Raymond Mould Nigel Twiston-Davies 3330-P2 ATTAGLANCE 7 H Young, G Eifert, R Snyder Malcolm Jefferson 61/0P10- BALLYNAGOUR (IRE) 7 Allan Stennett David Pipe F0311-1 BATTLE GROUP 8 Jolly Boys Outing Johnny Farrelly 12411P- BENEFFICIENT (IRE) 7 A Shiels/Niall Reilly Tony Martin IRE 0/5110P- BLESS THE WINGS (IRE) 8 Lesley Field Alan King 3/41523- BURY PARADE (IRE) 7 Highclere Thoroughbred Racing - Bury Parade Paul Nicholls 2/11151- CAPTAIN CONAN (FR) 6 Triermore Stud Nicky Henderson 61P16-0 CARRICKBOY (IRE) 9 Trevor Hemmings Venetia Williams 2/24251- CHAMPION COURT (IRE) 8 Mark Boothright Martin Keighley 5211U-0 COLBERT STATION (IRE) 9 J P McManus Ted Walsh IRE F2/2425- COLOUR SQUADRON (IRE) 7 J P McManus Philip Hobbs 2131-21 CONQUISTO 8 P J Martin Steve Gollings 53P-613 DOUBLE ROSS (IRE) 7 Options O Syndicate Nigel Twiston-Davies 20360-6 DUKE OF LUCCA (IRE) 8 Lesley Field Philip Hobbs 0/11121- DYNASTE (FR) 7 John White David Pipe 31/214-P EASTER METEOR 7 Mr & Mrs S C Willes Emma Lavelle 521F25- FAGO (FR) 5 Andrea & Graham Wylie Paul Nicholls 11/4642- FINIAN'S RAINBOW (IRE) 10 Michael Buckley Nicky Henderson 2U2F/-60 GIFT OF DGAB (IRE) 9 Gigginstown House Stud Tony Martin IRE 14/P3P0- GRANDS CRUS (FR) 8 Roger Stanley & Yvonne Reynolds III David Pipe P40060- HECTOR'S CHOICE (FR) 9 James and Jean Potter Richard Lee 106F-21 HIDDEN CYCLONE (IRE) 8 Mrs A F Mee & David Mee John Hanlon IRE 26033-1 JOHNS SPIRIT (IRE) 6 Christopher W T Johnston Jonjo O'Neill 4/F0211- KATENKO (FR) 7 A Brooks Venetia Williams 05/4520- KID CASSIDY (IRE) 7 J P McManus Nicky Henderson 1225F-0 KUMBESHWAR 6 McNeill Family & Nigel Bunter Alan King 122102- MA FILLEULE (FR) 5 Simon Munir Nicky Henderson 2/113F2- MARITO (GER) 7 Susannah Ricci Willie Mullins IRE 3U3P15- NADIYA DE LA VEGA (FR) 7 J P McManus Nicky Henderson 2F1011- RAJDHANI EXPRESS 6 Robert Waley-Cohen Nicky Henderson 2/04422- REALT DUBH (IRE) 9 Des Sharkey Noel Meade IRE 0/43112- ROLLING ACES (IRE) 7 Paul Barber, Ian Fogg & David Martin Paul Nicholls 2//421F1- RUPERT LAMB 7 Andrea & Graham Wylie Willie Mullins IRE 0112//01/- SALUT FLO (FR) 8 Allan Stennett David Pipe 4-P3120 SEAN AIRGEAD (IRE) 8 Brendan Flynn Mark McNiff IRE B0S303 SWEET MY LORD (FR) 7 Aiden Devaney Willie Mullins IRE 141522- TAP NIGHT (USA) 6 J P McManus Lucinda Russell U/606F0- TATENEN (FR) 9 The Stewart Family Richard Rowe 115U-0P TERMINAL (FR) 6 Favourites Racing Willie Mullins IRE 133120- TEXAS JACK (IRE) 7 Robert Watson Noel Meade IRE 33262-1 THIRD INTENTION (IRE) 6 Robert and Sarah Tizzard Colin Tizzard 2P301-1 TRIOLO D'ALENE (FR) 6 Mr & Mrs Sandy Orr Nicky Henderson 3/311PU- ULCK DU LIN (FR) 5 Mrs Johnny de la Hey Paul Nicholls 113114- UNIONISTE (FR) 5 John Hales Paul Nicholls 21125-U VINO GRIEGO (FR) 8 C E Stedman Gary Moore 22P52-U WALKON (FR) 8 McNeill Family Alan King 14133-6 WISHFULL THINKING 10 Diana Whateley Philip Hobbs 3-22236 WOOLCOMBE FOLLY (IRE) 10 The Hon Mrs Townshend Paul Nicholls |
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well done bjg
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Module not even entered - just my luck.
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I'll crack on then cheers, first draft short list will follow
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First draft Short List:
40F-452 ASTRACAD (FR) 7 Raymond Mould Nigel Twiston-Davies 61/0P10- BALLYNAGOUR (IRE) 7 Allan Stennett David Pipe 12411P- BENEFFICIENT (IRE) 7 A Shiels/Niall Reilly Tony Martin IRE 2/11151- CAPTAIN CONAN (FR) 6 Triermore Stud Nicky Henderson 0/11121- DYNASTE (FR) 7 John White David Pipe 26033-1 JOHNS SPIRIT (IRE) 6 Christopher W T Johnston Jonjo O'Neill 2F1011- RAJDHANI EXPRESS 6 Robert Waley-Cohen Nicky Henderson 133120- TEXAS JACK (IRE) 7 Robert Watson Noel Meade IRE 33262-1 THIRD INTENTION (IRE) 6 Robert and Sarah Tizzard Colin Tizzard 2P301-1 TRIOLO D'ALENE (FR) 6 Mr & Mrs Sandy Orr Nicky Henderson |
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yes at this early stage I like texas jack especially if it rides soft or worse
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just noticed he's a doubtful runner
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where u see that?
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