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brandyontherocks
When: 17 Nov 13 09:56
I backed Colour Squadron and obviously it would have been nice to see what would have happened if he didnt get slightly hampered at the 2nd last. But i don't feel unlucky. I think Johns Spirit was in the lead plenty early enough and idled badly up the run in. If Easter had stood up i feel the same horse would have still won the race.
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buddeliea
When: 17 Nov 13 10:05
Bl00dy hell!! you sure???

CS was pretty much level with JS when EM fell,by the time CS recovered from that incident he was about 6 lengths behind,and he got beat what? half a length??
JS may have idled, but no way can I see any other result than either CS or EM winning had that incident not occurred, and astonished to be honest that anyone can see different.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 17 Nov 13 10:26
On first impression CS looked very unlucky but after watching it again, when CS got to within a length JS ran on again, just idling imo.
By:
brandyontherocks
When: 17 Nov 13 10:31
I do feel that yea.
If Easter had have stood up then Johns Spirit would have had horses to run against up the run in and not been left alone.
We'll never know but thats how i saw it.
By:
buddeliea
When: 17 Nov 13 10:40
so a horse that's level with another than goes 6 lengths behind after getting hampered and gets beat half a length,would have lost anyway??.

Sorry, just cant have it,but we obviously see it differently. No problem.
By:
mange
When: 17 Nov 13 11:27
Would be odds on in a novice chase................
By:
Facts
When: 17 Nov 13 11:52
With the faller, JS was left in front ( sooner than the jockey would have wanted). He booted him on, and it was obvious he was idling in front, but once CS began to get to him , JS picked up again. No doubt in my mind that JS would still have won whatever the circumstances.
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buddeliea
When: 17 Nov 13 12:40
no one is saying he did not idle in front, but we are talking of a difference of 5-6 lengths here!! That's a lot of idling!!!

anyway its done,not much point in going on and on about it
By:
racingguru
When: 17 Nov 13 13:24
I think we were deprived of a potentially crackerjack finish between 3 horses. I don't think its right that people are dismissing Easter just cos he was ridden and the other two were going better. He stays 3m and wasn't stopping. IMO CS by a length, JS and EM either way very tight in behind.

I guess I benefited from EM falling in that although I had 60 on EM at a big price, I had 235 ew JS @ 8's and might have only collected a place. Main bet was well beat.
By:
buddeliea
When: 17 Nov 13 13:27
Absolutely RG,he weren't beaten when he fell.
I backed him as wellCry
By:
unclepuncle
When: 17 Nov 13 13:49
What a difference a day makes - so much for Pipes horses running terribly.Crazy
By:
ReaseHeath
When: 17 Nov 13 13:56
think some of the previous runners at this meeting were overrated (in fairness by racing media rather than stable) - none of Top Gamble, Ballynagour and Goulanes have actually achieved very much.

Also he suggested ground might not be soft enough for one or two of those - but did n't shy away from racing them which will probably mean they strip fitter when they do get their ground.

Also, The Liquidator looks a serious tool.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 17 Nov 13 14:23
Marito Plain
By:
sintonian
When: 17 Nov 13 14:51
Jezki Mischief
By:
harchibald
When: 17 Nov 13 16:10
I won't post what I know but I know plenty about Marito now, including why he wasn't entered. All I can say on that is that it was a mistake which is highly unlikely to be happening again.

Anyway, today I think you all saw what the horse can do. Expect plenty more, but in the UK.

That's all for now but keep your eyes and ears open.

Cheers.
By:
JOCI Club
When: 17 Nov 13 17:08
Not sure much can be gleaned from the Morgiana other than it was a fairly sedate pace, much like a training session for the Mullins horses, and a sprint finish. We don't know how fit each of the horses were (only Mullins will know that), and not sure it told us that much about Marito, apart from he's fit and well.

Think HF has been beaten first time out before, so maybe this was the time to get him beaten. I wasn't very impressed with the run, but it never was going to be a race to provide an impressive performance. Plenty more to cme from HF. Interested to see where Mariot goes now...John Durkan maybe?
By:
duffy
When: 17 Nov 13 20:05
The concern for HF today was that mullins has been saying leading up to the race that he's never had him so good coming out of the summer, it was workmanlike, I thought he quickened up far better first time out last season when he had go native snapping at his heels, the jezkis and our conors of this world had their chance today, although their respective previous runs were nothing to write home about, albeit one on the flat.
By:
JOCI Club
When: 17 Nov 13 20:18
I think he said he'd come back stronger than ever, which perhaps doesn't necessarily mean he had him at concert pitch for the race. Hopefully, a combination of stronger, and full fitness will see him have another great season. I was expecting sligtly more than I got from the dual champion and 1/16 shot. However, the acid test is 4 months or more away, so shouldn't be too hasty darwing any conculsions at this early stage.
By:
BJG
When: 01 Jan 14 14:23
Well done Willie, great call nt to run here off 147! #dc
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