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Important day today, entry stage / forfeit day for all the races on Arc Day , plus the trial races at longchamp next month.
Keep a close eye today , even though i don't think it will mean anything , lol, bound to get some bandit trainer make a supplementary at the end of next month. For the life of me ive gone through all the form , and visual clues, and its left me scratching my head so todays entry stage should help. One thing i will say is that i like Delzangles "Pacific Run", looks like a Japan horse to me, it also looks like it could get soft ground so not sure if they will go for Arc, its a strong possibility. |
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Pacific Rim rather
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sorry, its tomorrow when the provisional entries are known. not today
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I've backed Pacific Rim at 400/1, believe they said Vermeille is next then possibly F&M turf at Ascot on Champions day.
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i hear that Kizuna is burning up the gallops big strong machine
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Well he aint arriving in France till Sunday so dunno wat gallops he is burnin that we'd know about
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i didnt say it was in france btw
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At Ritto Training Center on the 21st, Kizuna, working in tandem with a stablemate, was given a 4-furlong workout on the hill under veteran rider Yutaka Take. He clocked 50.5 seconds, with a 12.3-second wrap that put him over the finish line 2 lengths in front.
It was the first time since the Derby some 87 days earlier, that Take had ridden the son of Deep Impact. "I think Kizuna himself has far surpassed his personal best," said Take. "It was excellent work." Sasaki too was pleased and indicated that this was to be Kizuna'slast piece of fast work in Japan before departing for France. "He's in good enough shape already. We'll give him two fast workouts once we're over there." Tactical speed and finishing speed, I'm certainly on. |
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Any thing further on provisional for ARC, RozelKid?
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Horse Weight Rating Priorité Owner Trainer Purse
1 FLINTSHIRE GB M.PS. 3 A. 58 545 KHALID ABDULLAH A. FABRE (S) 402.140 2 HACHITA VALLEY USA M.PS. 3 a. 58 *** KHALID ABDULLAH A. FABRE (S) 17.500 3 PREEMPT GB M.PS. 3 a. 58 365 KHALID ABDULLAH P. BARY (S) 7.700 4 Manndawi M.ps. 3 A. 58 530 H.H. AGA KHAN A.DE ROYER DUPRE 161.410 5 Shikarpour Ire M.ps. 3 A. 58 *** S.A. AGA KHAN A.DE ROYER DUPRE 79.709 6 Contributer Ire M.ps. 3 A. 58 *** GEORGE BOLTON EAL. DUNLOP 51.228 7 LEADING LIGHT IRE M.PS. 3 A. 58 *** . D.SMITH/MME J.MAGNIER/M.TABOR AP. O'BRIEN 113.941 8 Max Dynamite M.ps. 3 A. 58 470 . ECURIE HARAS DE QUETIEVILLE J. VAN HANDENHOVE 36.350 9 VANISHING CUPID SWI M.PS. 3 A. 58 465 MME SIBYLLE EGLOFF HA. PANTALL 61.650 10 OCOVANGO GB M.PS. 3 A. 58 525 PRCE A. FAISAL A. FABRE (S) 227.651 11 CAP O'RUSHES GB M.PS. 3 A. 58 *** . GODOLPHIN C. APPLEBY 121.935 12 Libertarian Gb M.ps. 3 A. 58 *** . GODOLPHIN C. APPLEBY 363.427 13 SECRET NUMBER GB M.PS. 3 A. 58 *** . GODOLPHIN S. BIN SUROOR 298.414 14 Penglai Pavilion Usa M.ps. 3 A. 58 *** . GODOLPHIN SNC A. FABRE (S) 93.300 15 VANCOUVERITE GB M.PS. 3 A. 58 *** . GODOLPHIN SNC A. FABRE (S) 280.500 16 SPIRITJIM M.PS. 3 a. 58 *** JEAN-MICHEL HEGESIPPE P. BARY (S) 33.500 17 Eye Of The Storm Ire M.ps. 3 A. 58 *** . M.TABOR/D.SMITH/MME J.MAGNIER AP. O'BRIEN 33.385 18 KIZUNA JPN M.PS. 3 A. 58 *** SHINJI MAEDA S. SASAKI 3.130.364 19 KINGSBARNS IRE M.PS. 3 A. 58 *** . MAGNIER/TABOR/SMITH/O'BRIEN AP. O'BRIEN 156.651 20 Foundry Ire M.ps. 3 A. 58 *** . MME MAGNIER/M.TABOR/D.SMITH AP. O'BRIEN 50.902 21 RULER OF THE WORLD IRE M.PS. 3 A. 58 *** . MME MAGNIER/M.TABOR/D.SMITH AP. O'BRIEN 1.048.495 22 Bravodino Usa M.ps. 3 A. 58 505 FAMILLE NIARCHOS J. PEASE (S) 64.900 23 TRES BLUE (IRE) M.PS. 3 A. 58 *** HORST RAPP HA. PANTALL 317.000 24 TRIPLE THREAT M.PS. 3 A. 58 515 TEAM VALOR L.L.C / G. BARBER A. FABRE (S) 167.575 25 MORANDI M.PS. 3 A. 58 525 DANIEL-YVES TREVES JC. ROUGET (S) 589.350 |
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Horse Weight Rating Priorité Owner Trainer Purse
1 LAST TRAIN GB M.PS. 4 A. 58 500 KHALID ABDULLAH A. FABRE (S) 236.710 2 MANDOUR USA M.PS. 4 A. 58 535 PCSSE ZAHRA AGA KHAN A.DE ROYER DUPRE 102.786 3 VERY NICE NAME M.PS. 4 A. 58 *** CHEIK ABDULLAH BIN KHALIFA AL T A.DE MIEULLE 811.420 4 NOVELLIST IRE M.PS. 4 A. 58 *** CHRISTOPH BERGLAR A. WOHLER 1.299.369 5 CAMELOT GB M.PS. 4 A. 58 *** . D.SMITH/M.TABOR/MME J.MAGNIER AP. O'BRIEN 2.143.705 6 AL KAZEEM GB M.PS. 5 A. 58 *** DANIEL JOHN DEER RJ. CHARLTON 981.444 7 NOW WE CAN GB M.PS. 4 A. 58 510 WINFRIED ENGELBRECHT-BRESGES N. CLEMENT (S) 140.600 8 MASTERSTROKE USA M.PS. 4 A. 58 *** . GODOLPHIN C. APPLEBY 662.278 9 ROYAL EMPIRE IRE M.PS. 4 A. 58 *** . GODOLPHIN S. BIN SUROOR 174.513 10 JOSHUA TREE IRE M.PS. 6 A. 58 *** . K.K. AL NABOODA/K. ALBAHOU EAL. DUNLOP 1.051.181 11 STELLAR WIND JPN M.PS. 4 a. 58 KOJI MAEDA T. OZEKI 12 CHAMONIX IRE M.PS. 4 A. 58 *** . MME JOHN MAGNIER/MICHAEL TABO AP. O'BRIEN 78.797 13 ERNEST HEMINGWAY IRE M.PS. 4 A. 58 *** . MME MAGNIER/M.TABOR/D.SMITH AP. O'BRIEN 92.455 14 DUNADEN (FR) M.PS. 7 A. 58 *** . PEARL BLOODSTOCK LTD M. DELZANGLES 1.847.703 15 AIKEN GB M.PS. 5 A. 58 *** GEORGE STRAWBRIDGE J. GOSDEN 180.988 16 ORFEVRE JPN M.PS. 5 A. 58 *** . SUNDAY RACING CO. LTD Y. IKEE 4.116.970 17 GOING SOMEWHERE BRZ M.PS. 4 A. 57,5 *** BENJAMIN STEINBRUCH D. SMAGA 226.410 18 LINDA RADLETT IRE F.PS. 4 a. 56,5 415 CHEIK MOHAMMED AL MAKTOUM A. FABRE (S) 63.650 19 Haya Landa F.ps. 5 A. 56,5 510 MME ODETTE FAU MME L. AUDON 354.970 20 PAGERA F.PS. 5 A. 56,5 470 GUY PARIENTE HA. PANTALL 216.577 21 LA POMME D'AMOUR GB F.PS. 5 A. 56,5 510 SUC. GUY REED A. FABRE (S) 217.700 22 PIRIKA (IRE) F.PS. 5 A. 56,5 500 TERUYA YOSHIDA A. FABRE (S) 190.300 |
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Horse Weight Rating Priorité Owner Trainer Purse
1 ROMANTICA GB F.PS. 4 A. 58 *** KHALID ABDULLAH A. FABRE (S) 196.500 2 YELLOW AND GREEN GB F.PS. 4 A. 58 505 CHEIK ABDULLAH BIN KHALIFA AL T N. CLEMENT (S) 4.550 3 GALVAUN IRE F.PS. 4 A. 58 480 . BALLYLINCH STUD A. FABRE (S) 8.000 4 GRACE LADY F.PS. 4 A. 58 515 . ECURIE VICTORIA DREAMS MLLE T. PUITG 100.100 5 WILD COCO GER F.PS. 5 A. 58 *** . K.I. FARM CORPORATION LADY CECIL 41.693 6 THE FUGUE GB F.PS. 4 A. 58 *** LORD LLOYD WEBBER J. GOSDEN 312.089 7 LA POMME D'AMOUR GB F.PS. 5 A. 58 510 SUC. GUY REED A. FABRE (S) 102.700 8 AMBIVALENT IRE F.PS. 4 A. 58 *** ALI SAEED R. VARIAN 154.256 9 PIRIKA (IRE) F.PS. 5 A. 58 500 TERUYA YOSHIDA A. FABRE (S) 61.450 10 HOT SNAP GB F.PS. 3 A. 54,5 *** KHALID ABDULLAH LADY CECIL 68.062 11 Jathabah Ire F.ps. 3 A. 54,5 *** MOHAMMED AL NABOUDA CE. BRITTAIN 32.519 12 FEREVIA (IRE) F.PS. 3 A. 54,5 500 H.H. CHEIK MOHAMMED BIN KHALIFA C. LAFFON-PARIAS 91.625 13 TREVE F.PS. 3 A. 54,5 540 CHEIK JOAAN BIN HAMAD AL THANI MME C. HEAD-MAAREK 588.400 14 The Lark Gb F.ps. 3 A. 54,5 *** LADY BAMFORD MLW. BELL 66.328 15 TASADAY USA F.PS. 3 A. 54,5 *** . GODOLPHIN SNC A. FABRE (S) 238.635 16 TALENT GB F.PS. 3 A. 54,5 *** . J.L. ROWELL/M.H. DIXON RM. BECKETT 327.994 17 PENELOPA GB F.PS. 3 A. 54,5 *** . LITEX COMMERCE AD MG. MINTCHEV 230.000 18 CHICQUITA (IRE) F.PS. 3 A. 54,5 505 PAUL MAKIN A.DE ROYER DUPRE 460.600 19 VENUS DE MILO IRE F.PS. 3 A. 54,5 *** . MME MAGNIER/M.TABOR/D.SMITH AP. O'BRIEN 223.702 20 OUR OBSESSION IRE F.PS. 3 a. 54,5 *** ANTHONY OPPENHEIMER WJ. HAGGAS 21 Orion Love (Gb) F.ps. 3 A. 54,5 475 HORST RAPP HA. PANTALL 53.750 22 SILASOL (IRE) F.PS. 3 A. 54,5 505 . WERTHEIMER & FRERE C. LAFFON-PARIAS 301.150 23 ELEUTHERA F.PS. 3 A. 54,5 *** TERUYA YOSHIDA P. DEMERCASTEL 96.650 • Closing FORFAIT 1 Mercredi 11 Septembre 2013 11h30 BOULOGNE |
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Yet again thanks BJG.
I remember backing ALL ALONG for the arc and had read that LESTER had turned her down, I believe that LESTER was expecting the going to be soft or worse, but as I said at the time, LESTER is a great jockey, but a terrible weather forecaster!!!!!! |
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Try predicting the weather for a test match. Lester is not alone.
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It was a true story which I used to illustrate that the going is tantamount to picking a horse to cope with the probable going,
in fact my long range forecast would need a similar type of going to the going in 1983, but that is after my original fancy has been injured and will not run. |
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Jeez, you are showing your age there Bazzar, i was only 1 year old when ALL ALONG won.. lol.
I've spent all day looking at the arc day entries, and the trials , and as a first submission I can honestly say that if these European Elite Racing owners are trying to wreck everyone's heads this year then they are succeeding at this stage. I would not be having a main selection at this point because to be bluntly honest i have no idea with regards to where the value is and im deeply suspicious of the market and entry list - so i will just need to wait until a few days before the trials and the irish and england leger- if i cannot come to a reasoned conclusion, with confidence, after these races then i will not be making a selection for the Arc this year. The more i look at the race the more I get a feeling that there will be a significant supplementary by a big yard between the leger races and arc day. Godolphin have so many unexposed 3&4 year olds who have been winning group 3s and 2s that i would not be surprises at all if they were to supplement closer to the race. I could be way off here but i see the market changing drastically within the next 2 weeks. If someone was to put a gun to pick some horses then it would have to be orfevre and Meleagros. I only mention meleagros because i think the race could suit if the weather comes- again though the price is massive so had an expendable interest. In my studying today , ive begun to contemplate that there is a fair chance that a few euro and british trainers could be planning to visit Hong Kong or Japan with a view to lining up a race then attempting to sell their horses out there. There are very big bonuses that have been set up by the JRA and i'll be surprised if some of these french and british trainers have not planned to line up a pop at one of their 4 graded races within the last quarter of the year. Again, it may pay not to go crazy about the Arc this year, as im of the opinion that the better opportunities lie within the other races on arc day racecard- and with my opinion that its a japanese visit planned for many of these horses lining up on a few of the races on arc day. To finish, thought id just mention a certain japanese sprinter that is coming over with orfevre called " Blarney Stone" cant seem to see any form at all, but seeing as the japanese have the worlds best sprinter at the moment i thought it would be interesting to find out why they have entered it in the foret if its not up to group class. speak soon everyone, will check in with an update if i think ive come to some new conclusions within the next week |
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Blarney Stone is a miler apparently , and owned by Yoshida. i cannot fully confirm that but its entered in the sprint on trials day, and also the 7f foret on arc day
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Possible supplementaries on Some interestingly campaigned horses, ive mainly looked at these horses with the assumption of soft, very soft , or heavy ground wherever they run.
2 Runners that ran in the Voltiger recently against telescope. Both Entered in the Doncaster Leger Willie The Whipper : owner-Qatar Racing Limited-Trainer most successful Group 1 Trainer Ann Duffield  Secret Number: Godolphin & Saeed bin Suroor Ive backed both of these for the Leger approx a month ago-so have to mention them in case they get a surprise supplementary instead of turning up in the leger. This could possibly happen in the same way Gosden entered Great Heavens in the Arc in 2011, which eventually came 6th, and im of the opinion that these 2 horses are unexposed at group 1 level i.e getting their suitable conditions of having a full stamina test on their favoured ground. This Willie the Whipper looks more interesting a horse the more i look at him, surely needs a stamina sapping test to be seen in his best light. The reason why i find the horse interesting is that if you watch the jockey club race again http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBElMppYp7w ,you will see that the jockey has put him right out the back in last of 16+ runners and the horse has never had the chance to make up that level of ground on intello, especially as the race is not 1m4f, it was 10.5f. So whatever race Qatar Limited line up with Willie then it should be great value in whatever race they take their chance in on soft ground, especially if they run closer to the pace in a true run mile & half. |
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Pacific Rim injured. Will be back as a 4yo. Real shame, that.
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What about Dunaden, a good 2nd to Novellist in France, who has gone on to great things obviously. A strongly run race and he'll be staying on at the end for a place,12.5 at the mo, very good value, and a nibble at 60's + for the win......the trial next week will be interesting, but if no pace he won't be helped, so the odds might get even better.....
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should have run in the race last year(Dunaden)
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Orferve apparently filling out nicely, after a little weight loss which was expected after the long trip.Slight doubt about him travelling because of this but looks like all went well.
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PRIX NIEL
1 FLINTSHIRE GB M.PS. 3 A. 58 545 KHALID ABDULLAH A. FABRE (S) 402.140 2 PREEMPT GB M.PS. 3 a. 58 365 KHALID ABDULLAH P. BARY (S) 15.700 3 Manndawi M.Ps. 3 A. 58 530 H.H. AGA KHAN A.DE ROYER DUPRE 161.410 4 Shikarpour Ire M.Ps. 3 A. 58 *** S.A. AGA KHAN A.DE ROYER DUPRE 79.709 5 Max Dynamite M.Ps. 3 A. 58 470 ECURIE HARAS DE QUETIEVILLE J. VAN HANDENHOVE 36.350 6 OCOVANGO GB M.PS. 3 A. 58 525 PRCE A. FAISAL A. FABRE (S) 227.651 7 Penglai Pavilion Usa M.Ps. 3 A. 58 515 GODOLPHIN SNC A. FABRE (S) 93.300 8 VANCOUVERITE GB M.PS. 3 A. 58 535 GODOLPHIN SNC A. FABRE (S) 280.500 9 SPIRITJIM M.PS. 3 a. 58 440 JEAN-MICHEL HEGESIPPE P. BARY (S) 33.500 10 KIZUNA JPN M.PS. 3 A. 58 *** SHINJI MAEDA S. SASAKI 3.130.364 11 RULER OF THE WORLD IRE M.PS. 3 A. MME MAGNIER/M.TABOR/D.SMITH AP. O'BRIEN 1.048.495 12 Bravodino Usa M.Ps. 3 A. 58 505 FAMILLE NIARCHOS J. PEASE (S) 64.900 13 TRIPLE THREAT M.PS. 3 A. 58 515 TEAM VALOR L.L.C / G. BARBER A. FABRE (S) 167.575 PRIX VERMEILLE 1 ROMANTICA GB F.PS. 4 A. 58 *** KHALID ABDULLAH A. FABRE (S) 196.500 2 YELLOW AND GREEN GB F.PS. 4 A. 58 505 CHEIK ABDULLAH BIN KHALIFA AL T N. CLEMENT (S) 4.550 3 GALVAUN IRE F.PS. 4 A. 58 480 BALLYLINCH STUD A. FABRE (S) 8.000 4 WILD COCO GER F.PS. 5 A. 58 *** K.I. FARM CORPORATION LADY CECIL 41.693 5 LA POMME D'AMOUR GB F.PS. 5 A. 58 510 GUY REED RACING A. FABRE (S) 102.700 6 PIRIKA (IRE) F.PS. 5 A. 58 500 TERUYA YOSHIDA A. FABRE (S) 61.450 7 HOT SNAP GB F.PS. 3 A. 54,5 *** KHALID ABDULLAH LADY CECIL 68.062 8 TREVE F.PS. 3 A. 54,5 540 CHEIK JOAAN BIN HAMAD AL THANI MME C. HEAD-MAAREK 588.400 9 The Lark Gb F.Ps. 3 A. 54,5 *** LADY BAMFORD MLW. BELL 66.328 10 TASADAY USA F.PS. 3 A. 54,5 525 GODOLPHIN SNC A. FABRE (S) 238.635 11 TALENT GB F.PS. 3 A. 54,5 *** J.L. ROWELL/M.H. DIXON RM. BECKETT 327.994 12 PENELOPA GB F.PS. 3 A. 54,5 *** . LITEX COMMERCE AD MG. MINTCHEV 232.400 13 VENUS DE MILO IRE F.PS. 3 A. 54,5 *** MME MAGNIER/M.TABOR/D.SMITH AP. O'BRIEN 263.102 14 Orion Love (Gb) F.Ps. 3 A. 54,5 475 HORST RAPP HA. PANTALL 53.750 15 SILASOL (IRE) F.PS. 3 A. 54,5 505 WERTHEIMER & FRERE C. LAFFON-PARIAS 301.150 16 ELEUTHERA F.PS. 3 A. 54,5 *** TERUYA YOSHIDA P. DEMERCASTEL 96.65 PRIX FOY 1 MANDOUR USA M.PS. 4 A. 58 535 PCSSE ZAHRA AGA KHAN A.DE ROYER DUPRE 102.786 2 VERY NICE NAME M.PS. 4 A. 58 *** CHEIK ABDULLAH BIN KHALIFA AL TA.DE MIEULLE 811.420 3 CAMELOT GB M.PS. 4 A. 58 *** D.SMITH/M.TABOR/MME J.MAGNIER AP. O'BRIEN 2.143.705 4 NOW WE CAN GB M.PS. 4 A. 58 510 WINFRIED ENGELBRECHT-BRESGES N. CLEMENT (S) 140.600 5 JOSHUA TREE IRE M.PS. 6 A. 58 520 K.K. AL NABOODA/K. ALBAHOU EAL. DUNLOP 1.051.181 6 Stellar Wind Jpn M.Ps. 4 A. 58 *** KOJI MAEDA T. OZEKI 618.909 7 CHAMONIX IRE M.PS. 4 A. 58 *** MME JOHN MAGNIER/MICHAEL TABO AP. O'BRIEN 78.797 8 DUNADEN (FR) M.PS. 7 A. 58 *** PEARL BLOODSTOCK LTD M. DELZANGLES 1.847.703 9 ORFEVRE JPN M.PS. 5 A. 58 *** SUNDAY RACING CO. LTD Y. IKEE 4.116.970 10 GOING SOMEWHERE BRZ M.PS. 4 A. 57,5 *** BENJAMIN STEINBRUCH D. SMAGA 226.410 11 Haya Landa F.Ps. 5 A. 56,5 510 MME ODETTE FAU MME L. AUDON 354.970 12 PIRIKA (IRE) F.PS. 5 A. 56,5 500 TERUYA YOSHIDA A. FABRE (S) 190.300 PRIX DU MOULIN 1 DON BOSCO M.PS. 6 A. 58 515 OMAR EL SHARIF D. SMAGA 175.975 2 GREGORIAN IRE M.PS. 4 A. 58 *** PCSSE HAYA DE JORDANIE J. GOSDEN 176.964 3 Stellar Wind Jpn M.Ps. 4 A. 58 *** KOJI MAEDA T. OZEKI 259.230 4 DECLARATION OF WAR USA M.PS. 4 A. 58 MAGNIER/TABOR/SMITH/ALLEN AP. O'BRIEN 982.561 5 MAXIOS (GB) M.PS. 5 A. 58 545 FAMILLE NIARCHOS J. PEASE (S) 293.801 6 MSHAWISH USA M.PS. 3 A. 56 515 CHEIK JOAAN BIN HAMAD AL THANI M. DELZANGLES 166.637 7 OLYMPIC GLORY IRE M.PS. 3 A. 56 *** CHEIK JOAAN BIN HAMAD AL THANI RM. HANNON 178.853 8 STYLE VENDOME M.PS. 3 A. 56 525 CHEIK JOAAN BIN HAMAD AL THANI N. CLEMENT (S) 404.610 9 TOP CHILL M.PS. 3 a. 56 360 CHEIK JOAAN BIN HAMAD AL THANI N. CLEMENT (S) 23.250 10 DARWIN USA M.PS. 3 A. 56 *** D.SMITH/MME J.MAGNIER/M.TABOR AP. O'BRIEN 51.650 11 Dastarhon (Ire) M.Ps. 3 A. 56 520 AVAZ ISMOILOV MME P. BRANDT 132.530 12 GALE FORCE TEN GB M.PS. 3 A. 56 *** M.TABOR/D.SMITH/MME J.MAGNIER AP. O'BRIEN 179.093 13 MAGICIAN IRE M.PS. 3 A. 56 *** M.TABOR/D.SMITH/MME J.MAGNIER AP. O'BRIEN 215.693 14 HAVANA GOLD IRE M.PS. 3 A. 56 *** QATAR RACING LIMITED & CSH RM. HANNON 283.097 15 ANODIN (IRE) M.PS. 3 A. 56 505 WERTHEIMER & FRERE F. HEAD (S) 57.000 16 SHENLIYKA F.PS. 3 a. 54,5 320 S.A. AGA KHAN A.DE ROYER DUPRE 3.750 17 SIYENICA F.PS. 3 A. 54,5 485 H.H. AGA KHAN A.DE ROYER DUPRE 56.500 18 FLOTILLA F.PS. 3 A. 54,5 530 H.H. CHEIK MOHAMMED BIN KHALIFA M. DELZANGLES 257.130 19 Sage Melody F.Ps. 3 A. 54,5 440 H.H. CHEIK MOHAMMED BIN KHALIFA M. DELZANGLES PRIX GLADIATEUR 1 LES BEAUFS H.PS. 4 A. 60 520 STEPHANE SEIGNOUX MME V. SEIGNOUX 288.750 2 DOMESIDE GB M.PS. 7 A. 59 510 SAFSAF CANARIAS SRL M. DELCHER SANCHEZ 143.600 3 DANCE MOVES GB M.PS. 5 A. 57 505 KHALID ABDULLAH A. FABRE (S) 136.750 4 ONLY A PLEASURE IRE M.PS. 4 A. 57 480 OTI MANAGEMENT PTY LTD A. FABRE (S) 61.000 5 AIKEN GB M.PS. 5 A. 57 *** GEORGE STRAWBRIDGE J. GOSDEN 180.988 6 ALMALYK H.PS. 4 a. 56 460 H.H. AGA KHAN A.DE ROYER DUPRE 53.800 7 RAIN OF MELODY IRE H.PS. 7 a. 56 345 MME CHRISTIANE DICHAMP Y. GOURRAUD (S) 70.300 8 FANTASTIC LOVE M.PS. 4 a. 56 455 MME MARIE-LOUISE FISCHINI T. LARRIVIERE 119.260 9 Genzy H.Ps. 5 A. 56 *** M.H. WATT/CHRIS N. WRIGHT I. WILLIAMS 90.577 10 SMOKY HILL IRE H.PS. 4 a. 56 415 MISE DE MORATALLA M. DELZANGLES 42.300 11 BIOGRAPHER GB M.PS. 4 A. 56 *** BJORN E. NIELSEN DR. LANIGAN 65.214 12 CORALHASI H.PS.11 a. 56 250 JOSEF ODERMATT MLLE I. GALLORINI 2.800 13 KASBAH BLISS H.PS.11 A. 56 450 HENRI DE PRACOMTAL F. DOUMEN (S) 43.342 14 VADAMAR H.PS. 5 A. 56 480 QATAR RACING LIMITED M. DELZANGLES 108.780 15 NORSE KING H.PS. 4 a. 56 395 JEFFREY COLIN SMITH MME M. BOLLACK-BADEL 45.700 16 GOLDTARA F.PS. 5 A. 55,5 485 A. FEHR/MME M. FEHR A. LYON (S) 138.950 17 MUD HILAH F.PS. 4 a. 54,5 435 CHEIK ABDULLAH BIN KHALIFA A.DE MIEULLE 75.705 18 GATERIE USA F.PS. 4 A. 54,5 475 GODOLPHIN SNC A. FABRE (S) 97.700 19 Holly Polly (Ger) F.Ps. 4 A. 54,5 345 GUY HEALD HA. PANTALL 42.310 |
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Chicquita, as short as 16-1 for the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe, will not run again this season trainer Alain De Royer-Dupre's has said. |
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I'm quite keen on Flintshire for this race. The bookies are a bit out of order with the prices though.
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Flintshire might not turn up it
it's soft. |
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Yep saw at in the rp....Fabre said there a chance he could wait till next year...
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reading between the lines next year it is for flintshire
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Looks like i've done my conquers in again if that's the case, days after Feel like Dancing was pulled. **** happens.
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if Flintshire wins tomorrow , why would they consider waiting until next year?
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ground and flintshire still is filling out and gaining strength
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Don't expect Flintshire to run tomorrow if the going is actually soft as per the Racing Post site. He will still have an excellent chance if the ground dries up in three weeks time. Then perhaps when he has strengthened up he will return and win it again next year?
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orferve was reported to have recieved a kick to his leg infact it was his snout.No damage really done.
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Teddy Grimthorpe felt the soft ground did not suit Flintshire in the Prix Niel. “We want to run (in the Arc) but the ground comes into it.”
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kizuna 5/1 with some firms....think I can pass on Yutake Take riding an Arc winner at that price. Learnt my lesson with him many years ago....good luck to backers. the guy is an ***hole. Very nice horse though....
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The soft ground probably didn't help Flintshire, but it was also the first time he'd been in a race run at a decent overall pace. In the past he's been quickening up off crawls and there has to be a big chance he's not quite as good as he's looked. Not for me even if we get a good ground Arc.
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Figgis - Were you impressed with Kizuna and Treve? (obviously got Orfevre in a few minutes as well)
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Today tells us nothing about how good or bad Flintshire is as that ground is no use to him, as he showed earlier in the year. Looks a hot Arc though, and he's not a betting proposition now until the ground conditions for the big race become clearer.
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But then arguably Kizuna is a firm ground horse given his breeding so he's going to be better if the Arc was run on good ground as well. My concern about Kizuna would be that he looks like a horse who has to be delivered right on the line as he idled badly once hitting the front today unless it was just lack of fitness which might have been the case given it was a trial.
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Orfevre on the bit. Nice to see him looking well conditioned
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