Got back from hols just in time to watch the Eclipse. Nathaniel must be a real contender for
this race now. That looked a great performance.

Loving the Punch and Judy show too

Nathaniel

Anyone have an opinion on Deep Brilliante? Japan Derby winner

Nathaniel making a big splash in the Eclipse yesterday has pushed the odds out of the front pair. Nath has two weeks to recover, which he could do being a 4yo, but Farhh made him work for that win and Gosden is talking about clashes with Frankel over 10f so im not sure they'd want to up him to 12f and then drop him in trip again in a short space of time. I reckon they might just wait for the Juddmonte, but they is just my guess/opnino.

In any case, I think it would be a surprise if Sea Moon was out of the places, so have taken the 4/1 on offer, eachway. GoodtoFirm or otherwise.

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The winner was always prominent and showed fantastic determination when challenged by Farhh in the closing stages.

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He really stuck his head out under William Buick and the pair crossed the line half-a-length clear with the runner-up doing very little wrong in defeat.

2010 hero Twice Over finished in third place.

Buick said: "I have to say that was a fantastic training performance from John Gosden. To get the horse here in the shape he was in, all credit to John.

"He's got real quality and he showed today what a good horse he is. I have always had a lot of faith in this horse.

"He showed his versatility today and all being well he'll go for the King George again."

His trainer is wary though of the short time between the two races and raised an intriguing alternative as he said: "He's a super horse, but it has been very difficult to get him right as he has had a respiratory problem. It's two weeks to the King George and that's not great.

"He's put in a massive effort here, so we will just have to have a good think about whether we run again (so soon).

"It will be fun to take on Frankel once more, as there was only half a length between them in a maiden a long time ago. The Juddmonte (International) would be an option, as would the Champion Stakes at the end of the year."

Nathaniel was winning a short time after his full-sister Great Heavens won the Lancashire Oaks at Haydock in the same colours, with Trade Commissioner also obliging at Sandown for the same connections.

Gosden said: "It's been a great day for all the staff, especially the owners, three winners and they bred them all."

Farhh's trainer Saeed bin Suroor said: "He travelled very well all the way but was beaten by a better horse today. There is no plan but we will keep to Group One races at the same distance."

Teddy Grimthorpe, racing manager to Twice Over's owner Khalid Abdullah, said: "He had been freshened up and has run a blinder. We were very pleased."

Roger Charlton's Cityscape was a creditable fourth in the Abdullah colours and Grimthorpe said: "He didn't quite stay after travelling very well through the race.

"We could look at something like the Jacques le Marois, I imagine he wouldn't go for the Sussex if Frankel does."

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Interesting Timeform ratings for St Nicholas Abbey when split l/h and r/h at 4/5 yrs. L/H = 130/126/127/126/126, R/H = 114+/124/118/120/99

Sintonian.
Not sure what u mean about Nath/SNA on a level p/f.
In last years KG, Nathaniel got the 3yo w-f-a (12Lbs) & won, this year he will be giving that to the 3yos (if any run).
Normally a "Top" 3yo (like Camelot) in the KG, would be the one to beat getting w-f-a, if he were to line-up, sadly he is not. In other words, a top class 3yo in the KG, is very hard to beat, but i dont think there will be many (if any) in the KG this year.

sea moon... snaff!

Brown Panther would have a fair bit to find as a 4yo, but he does go well at Ascot (some dont) & likes a bit of cut in the ground, ew chance if a few better ones dont turn up.
The ground will play a big part in the KG, Sea Moon, Nathaniel & a few others will want some cut to show there best form. I think SNA would want it faster.
As with most races, the weather & going, will have a big say on the day (Sat/wk)
Had only a small interest in the race A/Post so far on here, Sea Moon 10s & Imperial Monarch 22s (who looks like running this sat in France?)
Wont play on the KG now, until the morning of the race, then we will have a clearer view of everything, hopefully.

couldnt have sna in a month of sundays going right handed tbh but ive been wrong before.

i expect sea moon to rout them!

Ascot is a stiffish track and any ease in ground wont make it any easier for SNA or Nathaniel even though he likes the ground the bounce factor cant be ruled out.Sea Moon still the one for me,some of the overseas horses could be a threat,Reliable Man wont mind the ground,French raiders are often underestimated when they race in UK and often return at big prices

Giofra,Cirrus de Aigles last yr,yeah the German horses are doing well too,winner in York yesterday was a big price,strike rate must be pretty high as they had a winner in a bumper earlier in yr and a Monsun won at Royal Ascot forget the name

If it looks like coming up soft  SNA could develop a phantom injury and not run (see SYT).

How long does it take for the BHB to release the acceptors,
at 12:18pm 16th JULY.

12 left in on 365 site, must be the latest acceptors, no big name missing

looks like they are planning to run Danedream as she has been taken out of the race in Berlin.

probably as good a group 1 theres been in britain for years

12/1 value...its a bonkers price imo.

If she turns up in anywhere near the form she did in the Arc, then I would suggest she wins with Nathaniel the only potential danger but I have concerns him backing up so soon after the hard race he had in the Eclipse - still not convinced he'll run.

OK a very bad run lto to factor in but the price more than compensates for that.

Was going to leave the race alone but now she is confirmed as going, she's a very solid e/w bet for me

Danedream is only a small filly for whom wfa was a big plus as a 3 y/o. She's set to carry 9-4  here
which will be the most she's ever carried and is a significant factor for a small filly like Danedream,
where every pound will count. Stiff 1 1/2m on likely softish ground with 9-4 on her back will make
life very difficult for her imo.