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By:
slartybartfast.
When: 27 Apr 10 12:37
In case anyone doesn't know, Maria has been a mainstay on the Adrian Massey forum for years and is still there afaik.
By:
ethlPaps
When: 27 Apr 10 12:46
Thanks Toma, found it! :-)
By:
Toma
When: 27 Apr 10 12:58
jonny and co. I have only done the afternoon races so far. I will put the evening meetings up (assuming there are soem to lay) before 4pm!

Tricky day today but we will see how it goes!
By:
Toma
When: 27 Apr 10 20:39
94% accuracy on the laying system today takes the bank increase to 55.52% in 16 days!!!!
By:
ethlPaps
When: 28 Apr 10 14:08
nice one Toma!
By:
alert
When: 28 Apr 10 14:54
Anyone who believes that Marias odds where genuine is seriously deluded. I followed her original threads and was very suspicious at the time, the trouble was there where hundreds of folk praising her and any comments saying she was manipulating the odds where met with negative replies. Nothing wrong with the staking plan though.
By:
theirry
When: 28 Apr 10 14:56
is toma maria ?
By:
Toma
When: 28 Apr 10 21:34
Last race of the day an 8/1 shot robbed me of my 12th consecutive winning day and left me with a small negative. Not to worry though will get it back tomorrow, starting with my 300th selection. Stakes tomorrow stay the same as today (using Marias ratchet system).
By:
Toma
When: 28 Apr 10 21:36
hahaha Thierry, I can assure you I am not Maria!!
By:
Trademate
When: 29 Apr 10 00:00
Toma

Read your thread and good luck with it. Keep it going and see where it leads to. Stick with it even when there are very bad days which are inevitable. If you look at Maria's original thread it was a very slow process with some very bad days. Hope you prove to everbody that it can be done.

I shall follow the thread with interest.

Regards Trademate
By:
Toma
When: 29 Apr 10 01:49
Thanks Trademate,

After 17 Days Maria was approx 20% up on her bank, I am currently at 54% so I am not going to beat myself up just yet. I think discipline is key to this system and if I can maintian that and stick to the rules then I might make a few quid. Regardless though I have pledged this bank to this system so I will run it to the end....whatever end that is £0 or a few quid!

I appreciate your support though, its much appreciated :)

Cheers
Toma
By:
ethlPaps
When: 29 Apr 10 09:29
Good job Toma... you knew it, some days will end with a (small) loss... but on the long term you'll be fine!

Just stick to ur strategy, just as you've done so far!
By:
ZEALOT
When: 29 Apr 10 10:11
good luck toma
do you think it may be worth " keeping " your bets at the price you originally put in ??
By:
Toma
When: 29 Apr 10 10:11
Cheers ethlPaps, your right you can't expect to win everyday and there will be some bad days ahead.

Was on such a good run, but its probably not a bad thing that I caught a small loss just to remind me that IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN!
By:
ethlPaps
When: 29 Apr 10 10:13
yes, indeed... ;-)

Just to keep your feets on the earth :)
By:
Toma
When: 29 Apr 10 10:13
Hi Zealot,

Im not sure what you mean by "do you think it may be worth " keeping " your bets at the price you originally put in ??"

The prices I show on my 1pm post are the prices I am matched at they can't change (unless there are non runners etc.)?
By:
ZEALOT
When: 29 Apr 10 10:38
say for e.g youre laying blue kite - its 7.4 back 7.8 lay
you put a lay in at say , 7.4 and " keep " the lay to go in running, if not matched pre off . .
or even put in a few ticks lower , or do you have your own price and thats that ?
thanks
By:
Toma
When: 29 Apr 10 10:49
Sorry Zealot, I am with you now. For the purposes of my version and proofing of the system(which can be seen at http://www.tipstar.co.uk/forums/post/89/#postid_89) I make sure I am matched. Couple of reasons why:-

1. Maria is taking a huge amount of stick because she never showed her matched prices until after racing. If my selection isn't matched by 1pm then you guys never even see it!

2. I ave my own idea of what is a decent price and I want matched on my selection ASAP. I would hate to put up a correct selection(a loser) but then not get matched for the sake of .2 of a point!

However, if I was just doing it for myself then there may be occasions where I fancy a selection to get beat but can't get the price I want. Therefore I would do exactly as you say put it in at the price I want and leave it there all day or maybe even KEEP it for in running matching.

But I am sure you can imagine the uproar doing that would produce on here...."NO WAY YOU COULD HAVE BEEN MATCHED ON THAT AT THAT PRICE etc etc."

I just want the easy life mate, sticking to Maria rules by the book (only difference is I am showing my matched prices at 1pm) :)

Good Luck
By:
ZEALOT
When: 29 Apr 10 12:59
cheers mate .
By:
ethlPaps
When: 29 Apr 10 15:45
100% s/r up to now for today Toma, nice one!

Next race is THE race... wish u the best! :)
By:
jonnyg
When: 29 Apr 10 16:03
well done Toma

only seemed to load page at 2.30 so missed the first 4 and then went for a rest and came back and layed the 2 in one race.
By:
Toma
When: 29 Apr 10 16:06
Cheers Fellas, Yep so far so good....I have had company all afternoon (aaaarrgggghh!!!) so I haven't had timw to go through tonights cards properly. So rather than risk it I am going to leave it alone tonight (Discipline).
By:
jonnyg
When: 29 Apr 10 16:09
toma the page seems to load about an hour later then when you put it up?????????????????????????????
By:
Toma
When: 29 Apr 10 16:16
Oh no is this my first Stewards Enquiry.....sorry about that mate. I have no idea why that would be, all I can say is I posted it about 12:30pm today and I could see it at that point. Like I say my afternoon has been disrupted by visitors and I haven't been on their again until now!

I am sorry if you couldn't see it until 2:30pm...IF that happens again please let me know and I will post my selections and prices matched on here....

Sorry!
By:
Toma
When: 29 Apr 10 16:45
100% accuracy on the laying system today takes the bank increase to 68% in 18 days!!!!
By:
jonnyg
When: 29 Apr 10 16:47
please no need to aplogise toma

smashing stuff

i have been following in the wings but only layed a few.

long may it continue and i only hope you keep posting them(that is my selfish side coming out)
By:
Toma
When: 29 Apr 10 17:02
Not a problem Jonny....I will continue to post them until either people get sick of me or my money runs out. As long as people are interested I have no problem posting them. Remember, I am matched anyway so it makes no odds to me!
By:
Trademate
When: 29 Apr 10 17:18
Toma

Well done today. Keep it going.



Regards trademate
By:
ethlPaps
When: 29 Apr 10 17:25
Great day today Toma.... and good choice for not betting this afternoon...

slowly but surely!!!
By:
Toma
When: 30 Apr 10 12:45
Thanks trademate and ethlpps....lets hope for a good day to end the month with today!l
By:
Toma
When: 30 Apr 10 12:45
Jonny selections are there now hope you can se them mate?
By:
jonnyg
When: 30 Apr 10 12:52
yes thank you i can see them.
By:
jonnyg
When: 30 Apr 10 15:19
hello

well done again

suspicion as ogre being backed that will be trying so leaving this one.
By:
Toma
When: 30 Apr 10 16:30
Thanks Jonny...yep still a few to get past today but pleased so far. Again, I am going to swerve the evening meetings tonight. I have picked out a few but they are bigger prices to lay than I wanted and there doesn't seem to be much money around yet either for the evening meetings. I am sure that will change as we get more into the summer racing.

But I am going to cal it a day after the 17:35 today and start looking towards a hectic bank holiday weekend!

Good luck!
By:
Toma
When: 30 Apr 10 16:44
That was a shame......our best run yet has just come to an end after laying 27 consecutive losers!
By:
jonnyg
When: 30 Apr 10 18:28
great stuff Toma.
By:
cobra355
When: 30 Apr 10 19:53
Just read this thread. I also dabbled with Maria's Staking plan a couple of years ago with mixed results. Of course if you are successful with this plan now there is one huge stumbling block further down the road called the Premium Charge. Betfair don't like winners. Wonder how Maria's system would have performed for her since the goalposts have been moved. Good luck though Toma, looks to be going well so far.
By:
Toma
When: 30 Apr 10 20:05
Cheers Jonny...lets hope we can continue in May!
By:
Toma
When: 30 Apr 10 20:08
Cheers Cobra, I hear what you are saying and that (HOPEFULLY!) will be a problem we will have to overcome in the future and we will deal with that as and when it happens. If it does happen I will take off any premium charges applied to the figures (same as I take off 5% commission).

So that any profits/losses are REAL!

Good point though Cobra, thanks
By:
Trademate
When: 30 Apr 10 21:20
Another good day. I shall follow with interest.


Regards Trademate
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