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Surprised so many people are talking about Klopp.
Not that he isn't the best choice, but I can't believe he would consider it. I think he loved Liverpool, not England, which is the norm for people from there. Also I remember him at a press conference talking about how crap like the Nation's league was clogging up the fixture list. About 80% of international football is shyte like Nation's league friendlies , qualifiers vs Andorra etc He would be bored to death. |
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done some job Ally legendary manager, he passes on his tactical knowledge now on tv
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Emma a better manager than wiegman for me, and
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Assume Howe is their main target but would he leave club football?
Klopp is a romantic and loved the idea of bringing success back to Liverpool. Can definitely see him tempted to do the same for England and get paid huge amounts for it Probably the value given he is available now too |
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Of course Klopp is unlikely, but that doesn't mean you don't at least try to tempt the best available. He can only say no.
If we are talking 'can't believe' then I can't believe Lampard has been suggested. Next someone will be mentioning Gary Neville. |
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irishone01 Dec 16 22:14Joined: 22 Sep 06 | Topic/replies: 57,927 | Blogger: irishone's blog
Venables adked him if he wanted to take a penalty He said .... well if no one else ia there to take it i will.... Bit like the england job 20 years later..... |
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Lampard ticks all the same boxes as Southgate.
The biggest factor is who in the list would be likely to take the job. And Lampard would take it for half the money Southgate was on. So would Carsley and Potter, though they might have the 'show us your medals' problem. Klopp seems poor value to me as - even if it was reported that the FA were phoning him now to offer the job - i think he'd be 20/1 to accept it. Eddie Howe I think would like to stay at Newcastle, but would consider England if he felt he was on thin ice at the club. Poch and Tuchel might consider it on a 2 year basis, but perhaps more likely to wait for vacancies such as Man United. And the FA tend to have long term plans so someone who fits in with all that stuff would be preferable to them. I think people have not appreciated the extent to which the prestige of the England job has declined last 15 years or so. People amazed that Southgate was on £5M a year, but Sven was getting £4.5M twenty years ago. Capello was on £6M in 2010. Pep is getting £19.5. So by all means ask Klopp or Pep, but the probability is a never won a trophy Englishman. |
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Wiegman ffs.
Southgate was hired for being woke. Wiegman would be woke on steroids - a wind up surely. It has to be a manager who has won things in the MEN'S game to command any respect. You can't expect players who are coached by legendary managers like Pep & Don Carlo to then respect shyte trophy-less coonts like woke Gareth. Even his name sounds woke ffs! |
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I've had a small bet on Graham Potter. Ticks all the boxes.
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Look at what I said after I suggested Wiegman.
Tuchel would be great. A great cup manager who can still be effective in attack. Was 1-0 up in the bernebeu 2nd leg til Neuer f'd up with a poor Bayern and won with Chelsea against City. Only manager to get PSG near to the golden chalice too. Give him a big contract for 2 years for the WC. Losers like Potter and Howe? Do you want to win? |
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Potter has never been able to score enough. Plays pretty football til he get into the final third.
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Not saying he is going to a good appointment.
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Lampard was in the 50's yesterday, last backed at 8
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for god sake not Lampard. He was a good footballer, not a manager. He'd be a worse manager than Mr Southgate. He's all talk, no substance.
I'm sure the FA will find someone in between and definitely not an agitator. |
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Southgate was the same and look what he done with England... where proven winning managers, like Capello for example, previously failed.
I do believe that in the event Lampard was given the role, he'd gain the respect of Bellingham, which is a huge plus to begin with. International football is clearly a different ball game, meaning that anyone could fit the role... even Southgate, our most successful manager since the 60's. Who'd have thunk it? |
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Don Howe worked for the F A , was the best England Coach for years , his memory will get his son in, its how the F A work and have always worked ...jobs for the boys
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"he'd gain the respect of Bellingham, which is a huge plus to begin with"
Bellingham needs to gain respect for the shirt first , then the sport of Football , then leave his ego in the dressing room |
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I agree with lurka as to Thomas Tuchel being an obviously good choice for the future.
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'irishone', would you have Belly in your team? Would you overlook his ego, if so? With players with big egos just sub them if they are underperforming like any other player.
Has any present England player spoken out for Mr Southgate's since he resigned? I've not on tv or read online. Why not? |
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Showing too much passion = ego.
Seems to be the gist. Players then get criticised for not showing any passion. Can't win. |
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southgate /ENG have 4 leadership players,brilliant till 2 of them are the ones been talked/debated about klane and jude,i imagine maguire is another but wasnt in squad,you if you think your on the outside looking in,who,s left for you togo to to complain/? kanes,judes roles in the team
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Out of curiosity why did Mr Southgate take Shaw to Germany? Shaw only played in the Final.
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Fa want good public image type
are there reformed enough to put a woman in charge ??? Emma hayes Carrack be completely same type as Southgate Potter lampard. Howe everyone choice but surly ain’t going level top level job Where loved by fans in northeast |
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That Emma Hayes is a smart cookie. Never happen but we have had plenty worse!
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southgate wont want howe getting it as if you listen to all the sycophant journo,s southgate would be a shoo in for newcastle job if howe leaves so a bit embarrassing if n,castle look elsewhere
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not sure why howe wd want it tbh. i wd think that he wd want to prove he could improve newcastle after a good start and then a poor season. cant see him wanting a part time job at his age. he aint no southgate hes already got a top job
im on carsley as the fa know him and hes the safe option at a low cost |
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klopp wats a year off and has said so. looks like he is out of the equation
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emma hayes not even in the betting
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Turchel is drifting at 20/1. The betting is indicating a local taking the post. A timid and an unenterprising decision by the FA, if so. A timid decision = a boring appointment.
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hardly surprising tbh
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betting on here wd suggest its between potter, carsley and howe
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If so, it's a timid and unexciting appointment. The big egos in the England team might have a different take on it too.
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dont think the so called big egos will have any say in the mattr fa will go for a manager who will not rock any boats hence the top 3 in the betting imvho
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I meant a different take on International Football. Otherwise it's like teaching a grandmother how to suck eggs will not do with them, and rightly so. I think now is the right time to appoint a proven foreign coach at club level with a winning mentality.
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you may well be right but its the fa who make the appointment and they have a very poor track record of making successful appointments
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Emma Hayes.
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That Klopp statement is said to have come from a Sky correspondent so why are the Sky odds no bigger than 12/1 if it's no chance of happening? Bet 365 actually cut their odds three times today.
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