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By:
jermaine defonebox
When: 26 Sep 13 22:00
The Labour Party who run the club are lowering their sights by the hour. The deluded tw ats have now realised all the word cup winners and champions league winners have stopped coming to be terrorised by a fat beer swilling ,bare topped simpletons
Expect a complete unknown
By:
morpteh mackem
When: 26 Sep 13 22:02
wtf you on about you daft ****
By:
Preid
When: 26 Sep 13 22:03
Wow that's enlighting
By:
Solano1
When: 26 Sep 13 22:05
Just making a suggestion Morps. Grin
By:
morpteh mackem
When: 26 Sep 13 22:05
Grin
By:
donny osmond
When: 26 Sep 13 22:06
Grin
By:
Solano1
When: 26 Sep 13 22:07
It seems defonebox has developed an unhealthy obsession with all things red and white?
By:
morpteh mackem
When: 26 Sep 13 22:08
judging by his new post he is bored Grin
By:
tenpins
When: 26 Sep 13 22:11
Jermaine is gangsta.
Don't diss him on here ffs
By:
Solano1
When: 26 Sep 13 22:12
Very similar attitude to that unhinged fella who Crispy destroyed on the horsey forum, imo......
By:
jermaine defonebox
When: 26 Sep 13 22:14
I was quite into them until recently loved the bashing of Newcastle and the passion of the can sliding on his knees celebrating    Seems they prefer players who IMO make out they are injured and a 25 kg overweight couldnt give a sh yte captain who probably committed the most stupid foul in prem history v palace and went whimpering to the chairman when he got  told off
Club dont deserve anyone.
By:
Solano1
When: 26 Sep 13 22:21
A couple of fair points, in amongst your usual bile....

The 'club' assuming you are referring to the staff may not deserve better.

But the fans generally deserve far better than they have had.
By:
jermaine defonebox
When: 26 Sep 13 22:31
The fans are just so uncool it's funny. Most other fans done up in designer gear and them standing red faced swinging bare bellys wearing size 50 primark jeans
Laughing stock sunderland fans and club when I was in rome recently
By:
Trackman
When: 26 Sep 13 22:33
Laugh @ size 50 pri mark jeans
By:
donny osmond
When: 26 Sep 13 22:40
is that a womans size 50, or a 50 inch waste ?
By:
jermaine defonebox
When: 26 Sep 13 22:57
Necks like bulls multiple chins **** behind each ear bottle of brown ale in each hand. Face red n blotchy with rage teeth missing. Sweat tumbling over the blubber
It's not a good look
By:
tenpins
When: 26 Sep 13 22:58
Enough about your lass....this is a football thread ffs!
By:
jermaine defonebox
When: 26 Sep 13 23:01
Look at the pics of The can standing there in his 5 k Italian suit etc in front of them zoom in its a collection of the ugliest guys I've ever seen
Think the can should have got personal and said look at the state of you all
By:
mr crisp
When: 26 Sep 13 23:04
Very similar attitude to that unhinged fella who Crispy destroyed on the horsey forum, imo......

funnily enough i thought his style was very similar sol Crazy
By:
Roker_Park
When: 27 Sep 13 11:20
Reports in a few newspapers this morning claiming that senior Sunderland players have been asked who they want as manager and overwhelming response was "an English manager".
By:
The Shiekh
When: 27 Sep 13 11:57
neebody wants to manage the club with the notorious hounding supporters,and whinging players
By:
Trackman
When: 27 Sep 13 23:09
ttt
By:
Roker_Park
When: 27 Sep 13 23:11
Odds on Meulensteen getting smashed because of a story appearing in tomorrows Telegraph, he's been interviewed for job.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/sunderland/10340619/Sunderland-hold-talks-with-former-Manchester-United-coach-Rene-Meulensteen-about-replacing-Paolo-Di-Canio.html
By:
Trackman
When: 27 Sep 13 23:12
Rene Meulensteen Love
By:
Roker_Park
When: 27 Sep 13 23:13
Good work Trackman, I'd be laying off now though.....
By:
marychain1
When: 27 Sep 13 23:14
Manager markets are brilliant
By:
Trackman
When: 28 Sep 13 09:05
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By:
bananaoasis
When: 28 Sep 13 09:11
So, what do we think? Is the owner of the club going to listen to a man who he employs as DOF who ADVISED him that PDC was the right man for the job, and now ADVISES Gus is the man, or after a dissapointing interview (Poyet) has the reference from Sir Alex swayed the owner into thinking that Rene (the man in the hat) is the man who could lead Sunderland to safety?
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 28 Sep 13 09:16
After Brøndby won the championship, Nielsen was offered a lucrative contract with Norwegian champions Rosenborg, but Meulensteen convinced him to stay with Brøndby since he was an important culture bearer at the club and therefore vital for the club’s future. Nielsen refused the offer from Rosenborg and stayed at Brøndby, a decision he doesn’t regret according to the book.

At the beginning of the stay Meulensteen signed two young Englishmen (Mark Howard and Adam Eckersley), whom he knew from Manchester United’s reserve squad.

Meulensteen immediately changed the daily routines around the squad. At first, a lot of small things like when the club had to train and when they had to leave for matches. Later he decided to change the colour of the hallway leading to the team’s locker room at the stadium from yellow (which is Brøndby’s shirt colour) to green. This was intended to give the player’s hope and calm them down when they went from the pitch to the locker room after the first half. He explained to the squad that since they were excited after the first half they needed to calm down a bit. Nielsen, and the rest of the squad, were wondering why this was important because they needed to be ready and excited for the second half a moment later anyway. And most of the other managers Nielsen had played under used the half time to put a light under their players to make them perform (even) better in the second half.

Nielsen also spoke about training sessions where the players were juggling with the ball and Meulensteen would suddenly would jump in front of them and yell “BOOOH” in their faces. This was meant to prepare them for the noise there would be at the stadium when they played in front of 10.000-15.000 people, he explained to them. This confused the players even more because average attendance during the 04/05 season was almost 16.000 and in both the 04/05 and 05/06 season they had played before 40.000 people against FC Copenhagen away and in front of 28.000 (the maximum capacity of Brøndby Stadion) at home. Therefore, the players knew what it was like to play in front of a big crowd and simply didn’t need these strange lessons. At this point Per Nielsen began to think that Meulensteen hadn’t done his homework about the history of Brøndby IF. Nielsen says:

“I think he was surprised how many spectators went to Danish league games, and that he had players in the squad who were used to playing big games with their national teams and in the European club tournaments.”

Brøndby_stadium_panorama

At this point Per Nielsen was starting to wonder exactly how important Meulensteen’s role was at Manchester United before he went to Brøndby.

The drills the first team squad did during Meulensteen’s time in Brøndby were very weak according to Nielsen. He calls them “childish,” and says that a lot of the drills reminded him of the drills he did when he was a small child. Suddenly the level at the practices was terrible and way below the level that a Danish Superliga squad should be at. This proved Per Nielsen’s theory of Meulensteen not knowing the level of the players he was controlling. He was simply unprepared.

Meulensteen was always running the same drills at the training and this annoyed the players. He had big ambitions, but Nielsen didn’t think he had the skills to turn the ambitions into reality. To this day, Nielsen still doesn’t know how Meulensteen wanted the players to act on the field and what exactly he wanted them to do. Meulensteen had a hard time explaining his ideas to the players. He talked a lot, but the things he said simply didn’t make sense.

The tactical changes Meulensteen made between the matches were always proposed by the players. Probably, because he never managed to tell them what he wanted them to do.

Because of the bad practices the players got very frustrated and suddenly it was normal for fights to occur during the training. It’s normal for squads to have some disagreements, but since Meulensteen couldn’t control the squad these arguments evolved into actual fistfights. Meulensteen didn’t manage to solve the different disagreements and since they remained unsolved it created a lot of tension between the players.

Per Nielsen told about an episode at training where one of the older Danes (Thomas Rytter) made a rough tackle on one of the new Englishmen. Shortly the two Englishmen were fighting two of the older Danes (Thomas Rytter and Thomas Rasmussen) in the squad. While this was happening, Meulensteen was paralyzed and just watching without doing anything. The players themselves had to solve the problems and didn’t manage to, and therefore the tensions stayed in the squad. At this moment, the team was in chaos because Meulensteen couldn’t control the players.

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From his time in England, Meulensteen had learned about the Prozone system, where you sew small sensors in the players’ shirts to map their running patterns. To make this system work he demanded that a lot of cameras be installed at the stadium. But Brøndby wasn’t ready to make this kind of an investment in a system that had never been used in Denmark before. According to Per Nielsen, this was the only idea Meulensteen had and it never went through.

In the first couple of matches, Brøndby did fine and they had 10 points after the first 4 games. But during this period the players were still remembering what Laudrup had taught them, and they used his tactics and structures on the field. Of course, they couldn’t keep on doing this and shortly after they started losing.

Brøndby was facing Frankfurt in the UEFA Cup. Before the match started, Meulensteen gathered the players in the locker room together in front of a white blackboard. He then started pointing at the players and made them tell what kind of animal they wanted to be on the field. The players found this very weird and no one answered. As the captain Nielsen felt like he had to step up, and says he wants to be a snake. Meulensteen then replies:  tiger-regal

“No no, Per, goddammit. That won’t work. Snakes are slow animals, we cannot have snakes in our defense, the Germans will outrun us then.”

Nielsen replies:

“Then I’m a tiger. Is that okay?”

Meulensteen:

“That’s perfect! Tigers are brave, fast and strong. That is exactly what we need from a captain.”

After this, the other players responded and Meulensteen then drew the starting lineup containing a tiger, a fox, an elephant, a giraffe and a lot of other animals.

When Meulensteen was done drawing the starting lineup, he said:

“That’s great, boys. We are smart, fast and clever animals on the field today. We cannot lose today.”

While this was going on Nielsen was looking at the blackboard and thinking:

“We are sending an entire zoo on the field today.”

Then Meulensteen said a few words about the tactics, but no one was listening anymore because everyone was shocked about what they had just witnessed. They were all looking at the blackboard to keep track of the animals and simply thinking “What is going on?” Then Meulensteen left the locker room and all of the players started laughing, and asking each other “What the hell was he doing?”

Brøndby lost the match, 4-0, and got two red cards. One of Meulensteen’s Englishmen (Mark Howard) got one of them after headbutting a Frankfurt player. The leftback Thomas Rasmussen afterwards told the press that he thinks Howard is a clown for letting the team down with his red card. At the next practice, Meulensteen made Rasmussen sit in a chair in front of the entire squad and yelled at him, telling him he is a bad teammate and friend. Meulensteen was extremely unhappy with Rasmussen and didn’t say anything to Howard.
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 28 Sep 13 09:16
hmmmm
By:
bananaoasis
When: 28 Sep 13 09:38
Poyet it is then Laugh
By:
The Shiekh
When: 28 Sep 13 09:50
the crowd will be full of hounds
By:
tenpins
When: 28 Sep 13 09:51
Give it up man shiekh Grin
By:
The Shiekh
When: 28 Sep 13 09:58
ah cannit help it ten
By:
grayhawk
When: 28 Sep 13 10:04
Tell you what Shiekh...you could get a job as a top notch hounder....you're relentless Grin
By:
The Shiekh
When: 28 Sep 13 10:06
lol
By:
Roker_Park
When: 28 Sep 13 12:02
O'Shea and Brown will know this Meulensteen bloke well, if he is appointed it would just confirm to me that O'Shea is running the show at the club.
By:
donny osmond
When: 28 Sep 13 12:09
i thought oh shay wanted a british manager ?
By:
Solano1
When: 28 Sep 13 12:11
Wants to concentrate on runnin the back 'fowa', imo
By:
Trackman
When: 28 Sep 13 12:12
o shea running ( lol)
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