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By:
stridingedge
When: 18 Mar 14 18:36
i said to you months ago this thread would probably be around break even over the season, liverpool have been a different proposition this season, the odds have not been wrong.

the odds on man u have been wrong as in the short term i dont think many can still believe how poor they are.

i don't see whats hard to get here

doing either long term you'd expect the market to find its level ?

you have to react to different circumstances, this season has not been run of the mill at all.
By:
stridingedge
When: 18 Mar 14 18:38
i'm not wasting any more time

i can't see any relevance of this thread i'm afraid and i'm not getting into a sh1t slinging feud where nothing changes.

i've been quite clear what i think about your methods on here, there's nowhere else to go with this.
By:
CJ70
When: 18 Mar 14 19:06
Sorry, I don't have the inbuilt chip for Liverpool fan logic. You are now saying the price matters?

Surely if price mattered this thread wouldn't be full of screeching Liverpool fans after a victory and empty after a defeat? The calls to stop the thread midway through the season because Liverpool are winning games wouldn't make any sense?

This thread started because Liverpool fans back their team at any price because they think they will win. Liverpool therefore are always on the short side so the value is always against them. I keep saying this again and again, yet you've said yourself that you don't understand why the thread exists as Liverpool are winning.

As for the Man Utd stuff. Everybody who doesn't support Liverpool is a Man Utd fan innit? More Liverpool fan logic.

As for not wasting any more of your time? You'll be back as per next time Liverpool win.
By:
stridingedge
When: 18 Mar 14 19:09
system working fine

send more money

Wink
By:
stridingedge
When: 18 Mar 14 19:11
the man u example was only posted as you said this was not a good policy

so the sytem you back is making a loss and the one you oppose is making a profit

you are a real shrewdie obviously

keep up the good work Wink
By:
stridingedge
When: 18 Mar 14 19:13
as for price not mattering

there is no blanket system so easy as lay team a,b or z in the long run without filtering out selections.

the market is as near a perfect market as you can get in the long run i'm afraid.

your insistence that price is not relevant is as daft a notion as is possible in punting strategy!
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 18 Mar 14 19:20
CJ. Its really quite simple. Liverpool are sometimes under priced, and sometimes over priced. Not always the latter as you suggest. Those days have gone.

Disappointing you cant see something so simple, mostly because you refuse to accept you are wrong.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 18 Mar 14 19:21
*Former ever.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 18 Mar 14 19:22
** Even (ffs)
By:
CJ70
When: 18 Mar 14 19:22
Can someone post the head in hands man..

Of course price is relevant and as I keep explaining it's why I made the thread. I was mocking yourself and the other Liverpool fans who only look at the wins.
By:
charwell.
When: 18 Mar 14 19:24
OP = EPIC FAIL.

You can bluff and bluster as much as you like, but you tried to be a smart Alec and look like a complete guesser.

And now you are twisting and turning like a twisty turny thing.....Silly
By:
ours4keeps
When: 18 Mar 14 19:25
CJ, you're just lacking any logic whatsoever though. This isn't screeching, this isn't even tribal. This is in fact an intervention. A reaching out to a soul in desperate need of some guidance to realize the errors he's been making and continuing to make.

Now, there's the Liverpool price is short because their fans back them. Is this a peculiarly Liverpool thing? I've lived here all my life, worked in a betting shop for a good spell before moving to HO and I'll be honest, my experience doesn't quite tally. One of the most deprived areas of the country is suddenly flush every weekend and piles such incredible sums on Liverpool that global markets and exchanges are forced to move. Yet, in bigger and richer cities like London or with teams with larger fanbases such as Utd this curiosity doesn't occur? I take it you haven't read the Liverpool thread or many LFC pages to see the amount of jonahs, moaners and people generally all too used to us coming up short and waiting for the next balls up. Seriously, have a look some time. It'll be an education and you may realize we're probably one of the least "fanboy" clubs in the league.

So for hopefully the last time - the price is THE most important thing. If you can't step back and independently judge whether a price is too big or too small you will lose. That is a fact. And it's being borne out in this silly experiment. You have to realize there are 2 teams in a match and there are myriad influences, reasons and effects to both sides that will have a direct impact on the price. Saying "Liverpool are always too short" just simply stamps MUG on your forehead and you'll get eaten alive.
By:
kenilworth
When: 18 Mar 14 20:41
Laying one side blindly is foolish, but arguing the merits
of prices after the event is just as foolish. Each match
has to be judged on the day.
By:
stridingedge
When: 18 Mar 14 20:53
Each match
has to be judged on the day.

like what everyone lesa has been saying on here apart from the OP Crazy
By:
stridingedge
When: 18 Mar 14 20:53
*everyone else
By:
MrMeaner
When: 18 Mar 14 20:59
Had the OP done this little exercise over the previous 4 seasons, he'd have been quids in. As it is, he's probably on the verge of bankrupting Wonga thanks to Brendan Rodgers.
By:
kenilworth
When: 18 Mar 14 21:09
but arguing the merits
of prices after the event is just as foolish


I also said the above.
By:
stridingedge
When: 18 Mar 14 21:13
yes i am aware of that ken

if you read the thread properly you will understand why prices after the event were shown on here
By:
stridingedge
When: 18 Mar 14 21:15
OP said laying man u would not have been a better proposition this season

logically this seemed very wrong and looking at the actual prices this is confirmed

it was in no way meant to be an after timing thing.
By:
CJ70
When: 18 Mar 14 21:16
The problem is with the Liverpool fans cheered by a couple of wins is that we know Liverpool are going to be short again next week, and the week after and the week after. Thus unless something happens I'm consistently going to be getting the value.

I'm aware that every time Liverpool win there'll be Liverpool fans on here, shouting and screaming but that's the nature of the vocal Liverpool fans on here.
By:
stridingedge
When: 18 Mar 14 21:18
its nowt to do with liverpool fans

christ sakes, though obviously you have a real fcuking problem with liverpool!
By:
CJ70
When: 18 Mar 14 21:18

Mar 18, 2014 -- 9:15PM, stridingedge wrote:


OP said laying man u would not have been a better proposition this seasonlogically this seemed very wrong and looking at the actual prices this is confirmedit was in no way meant to be an after timing thing.


Op said nothing of the sort.

The Man Utd stuff is all from Liverpool fans who think anybody backing against Liverpool has to be a Man Utd fan.

By:
stridingedge
When: 18 Mar 14 21:20
you have quaffed at people that said you'd be better of laying man u this season ??
By:
CJ70
When: 18 Mar 14 21:21

Mar 18, 2014 -- 9:18PM, stridingedge wrote:


its nowt to do with liverpool fans christ sakes, though obviously you have a real fcuking problem with liverpool!


I have no problem with Liverpool in the slightest. What I see is a price that is consistently wrong week after week and I look to take advantage of that.

A lot of Liverpool fans are morons, you can read this thread to see that. There's also a lot of Liverpool fans who I get on with and would agree that the prices are wrong.

By:
stridingedge
When: 18 Mar 14 21:22
ROFL


my system is losing because something has changed with liverpool but i am still right and liverpool fans are morons

right
By:
kenilworth
When: 18 Mar 14 21:25
I must admit I haven't read the whole thread having out
most of the day, and couldn't be bothered reading it in
detail.
I thought there were some posts based on the 'good' price
of L'pool, was I wrong?
By:
CJ70
When: 18 Mar 14 21:25

Mar 18, 2014 -- 9:20PM, stridingedge wrote:


you have quaffed at people that said you'd be better of laying man u this season ??


Have I? That'll be the first I've heard of it.

Then again you lot had me as a Chelsea fan last week as well. That's a new one on me as well.

By:
stridingedge
When: 18 Mar 14 21:26
There's also a lot of Liverpool fans who I get on with and would agree that the prices are wrong.

what this season ?

i've said to you we have often been under priced at home against the small teams especially at home. i also said the home form is much stronger this season but you dont seem to accept it.
By:
stridingedge
When: 18 Mar 14 21:29
CJ70     29 Dec 13 12:42 
Dec 29, 2013 -- 12:36PM, Charlton2005 wrote:

on the other hand united are showing massive profits to the same strategy...to much amusement

Are they? I would have thought you would be about even as the United price has checked heavily.
By:
stridingedge
When: 18 Mar 14 21:29
i will find your comments btw

if they are not on this thread they were on one concerning lfc and prices
By:
CJ70
When: 18 Mar 14 21:29

Mar 18, 2014 -- 9:26PM, stridingedge wrote:


There's also a lot of Liverpool fans who I get on with and would agree that the prices are wrong.what this season ?i've said to you we have often been under priced at home against the small teams especially at home. i also said the home form is much stronger this season but you dont seem to accept it.


Yes, prices are still wrong.

As I repeatedly say, you're on here because Liverpool have won a few games in a row. You'll be nowhere to be seen when they lose, while I'll keep plodding away taking what I consider value bets. You'll tell me that I'm wrong because Liverpool are winning games.

By:
CJ70
When: 18 Mar 14 21:32

Mar 18, 2014 -- 9:29PM, stridingedge wrote:


CJ70     29 Dec 13 12:42  Dec 29, 2013 -- 12:36PM, Charlton2005 wrote:on the other hand united are showing massive profits to the same strategy...to much amusementAre they? I would have thought you would be about even as the United price has checked heavily.


Which bit of that do you disagree with?  Or are you picking up the aftertiming?

By:
stridingedge
When: 18 Mar 14 21:33
we are 29 games in on your 'lay liverpool season thread'

what happens when you are still showing losses at the end of the season

we just keep going till you hit a good run ?
By:
CJ70
When: 18 Mar 14 21:33

Mar 18, 2014 -- 9:29PM, stridingedge wrote:


i will find your comments btwif they are not on this thread they were on one concerning lfc and prices


Enjoy your night then.

By:
stridingedge
When: 18 Mar 14 21:33
the bit where utd shows a loss this season you pillock are you really this thick or have their prices been right this season despite showing these losses.
By:
kenilworth
When: 18 Mar 14 21:33
Backing ManU blindly in the P/L this season
wouldn't have been as bad as some would think.
By:
CJ70
When: 18 Mar 14 21:33

Mar 18, 2014 -- 9:33PM, stridingedge wrote:


we are 29 games in on your 'lay liverpool season thread'what happens when you are still showing losses at the end of the seasonwe just keep going till you hit a good run ?


Here we go again. Liverpool are winning so the price doesn't matter.

By:
stridingedge
When: 18 Mar 14 21:36
every bit of evidence suggests you have been wrong because in the short run you have not seen a change

this is what is so stupid, you dont adapt in the light of obvious evidence

you are laying liverpool without realizing they are winning the games they used to struggle with especially at home, where the major losses would have been incurred in recent seasons (and believe it or not many of our fans were well aware of some very bad prices on us)
By:
stridingedge
When: 18 Mar 14 21:36
ken

not according to what i posted earlier
By:
CJ70
When: 18 Mar 14 21:36

Mar 18, 2014 -- 9:33PM, stridingedge wrote:


the bit where utd shows a loss this season you pillock are you really this thick or have their prices been right this season despite showing these losses.


Of course they are showing a loss.

Do you not read what I post? Read it again.. Especially the bit where I say the price has heavily checked.

You've taken to screaming insults now I see. Remember where I said above were Liverpool fans have poor reputations?

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