Football
There is currently 1 person viewing this thread.
These 168 comments are related to the topic:
Best league in the world....
Best league in the world....
sort by:
Show
per page
Replies: 168
|
By:
Well I wouldn't write off the PL sides yet, Hamsterdam. Chelsea can still do well in the CL, and Man U could as well, if they sort out their defensive problems. Arsenal will probably still qualify, although we know they're an ordinary team - how could they be otherwise if they simply sell all their quality players? City are rather mystifying, admittedly, but I think we need to wait until the end of the season and see how the English sides actually did. Too many death knells being prematurely sounded for my liking.
|
|
By:
Trouble is, one day Rupert will tire of it. Then we'll find out about "commercially successful".
|
|
By:
jam
ffs you must stop making things up that people have said, then calling them an idiot for saying such things, in order to make an argument. where on earth did i say that viewing figures were directly linked to the quality of the league???????????????????? i'll give you a clue. i didn't. you made it up. |
|
By:
jamdav
makes things up you've said. then calls the things he's made up flimsey and they're laughable  |
|
By:
You claim it is 'quantfiably the best' due to viewing figures etc.
In most peoples book 'the best' refers to quality. You say I am the problem with modern football etc but I would say the likes of yourself that quotes viewing figures and commercial quality of league into a debate is a sad state of affairs. |
|
By:
number of internationals plying their trade in the respective leagues is probably a quantifiable indicator of strength in depth.
That depends on how many players playing in their own national leagues there are, against foreigners. Man City for instance, have bought umpteen internationals. They lost tonight, btw. |
|
By:
what's quality in your book if it's not viewing figures (for the spectator) and pounds, shillings and pence (for the club)?
|
|
By:
your making it up.
it must really irk you that you've got to tie your allegiance miles away in order to have a tear up on here, why don't you go and support man u or lpool then you could make up what you like about the other mob and row untill your hearts content. |
|
By:
Mexicano it is 100% fact that you have used 'viewing figures' as 'quantifiable' evidence that the Prem could be considered 'the best'.
Yet in next post claim that people who follow foreign football teams as all that is wrong with football. |
|
By:
Viewing figures equals best? FFS.
|
|
By:
JamDav1982 24 Oct 12 22:24
Bilbao finished tenth in La Liga and look how they took Man Utd apart. Villarreal got relegated with players like Nilmar, Rossi, Diego Lopez, Bruno Soriano etc. Depth in La Liga is much stronger. Is the depth really that much stronger? Look how well Bilbao are doing now their 2 best players from last year aren't playing. Villarreal got relegated because Rossi was missing from October and Nilmar only played around half their league games. So you can't really justify the leagues depth by using Villarreal as an example because if Rossi had been fit they wouldn't have gone down. It's because of their lack of depth that they got relegated. I'd argue that the likes of Spurs, Everton, Newcastle and Liverpool are stronger sides than Mallorca, Levante, Betis and Sevilla. I don't think there's any doubt la liga is better in terms of skill and technical ability but for excitement, atmosphere and competition you can't seriously deny that the premier league is better. |
|
By:
the most watched. the most commercially succesful. some[not me] may consider that makes them the best.
======================================================================================= and that is what i actually said. so even when you're challenged to validate something that you reckon i've said you still lie about it in order to try and make a case. you must really want a row. |
|
By:
mexicano • October 24, 2012 10:01 PM BST
in your opinion it's not the best. in any quantifiable criteria. it's the best. mexicano • October 24, 2012 10:47 PM BST your making it up. it must really irk you that you've got to tie your allegiance miles away in order to have a tear up on here, why don't you go and support man u or lpool then you could make up what you like about the other mob and row untill your hearts conten |
|
By:
JamDav - couldn't you have just bumped one of your previous threads on the subject?
I don't really understand why you get so wound up by it? |
|
By:
You also said this mexicano -
in your opinion it's not the best. in any quantifiable criteria. it's the best. |
|
By:
I am not wound up at all tonycottee.
|
|
By:
biscuit the excitement and atmosphere between english sides means more to locals than whatever goes on in spain or anywhere else. because its local. even if the quality was/is dire people would still lap it up cos its on their doorstep and they can slag their rivals when they lose
|
|
By:
JamDav1982 24 Oct 12 22:47 Joined: 03 Jul 04 | Topic/replies: 4,768 | Blogger: JamDav1982's blog
Mexicano it is 100% fact that you have used 'viewing figures' as 'quantifiable' evidence that the Prem could be considered 'the best'. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------. i actually said not me. |
|
By:
Again Mexicano -
in your opinion it's not the best. in any quantifiable criteria. it's the best. |
|
By:
tony
i'll tell you why he gets wound up about it. because he's had to scour the globe to do a bit of gloryhunting. and what's the point of gliryhunting, if you can't "stick it up" somebody" now and again. pitiful case really. |
|
By:
If only Jason Dodd was still here.
He'd have sorted this mess out in no time. |
|
By:
Premiership teams get what they deserve in the Champions League.
They treat other teams and the competition itself with contempt. Playing weakened sides and then having a cheek to wonder why they didn't win. Not to mention the Europa League,FA cup and League cup as well. Who the feck do they think they are. Over hyped and full of overpaid lazy ****z. Did you hear that idiot from Arsenal saying the players looked tired!! Doing what? |
|
By:
mexicano - keep the glory hunting angle it is all you have to fall back on really.
|
|
By:
The quality's not awful in the PL though. Not as much technique and skill as you see in Spain, obviously. But there's still some decent stuff. And you do get an awful lot of excitement and competitive matches in the PL.
Hard to argue that the PL is the better league, though, simply because English sides haven't fared as well in Europe over the last few years. The Prem League's still pretty decent though, and I expect there to be at least one PL side in the Semi-Finals. |
|
By:
absolutely solano.
he'd have told us all where we were going wrong in one sentence. a thousand times  |
|
By:
Of course the Prem is a decent standard, in particular the top 5/6, but it is not the all conquering league that lots of people on here make it out to be.
There is little between the top leagues. |
|
By:
Mex.
|
|
By:
gloryhunting is not all i have to fall back on.
but it does intruige me that somebody can attach themself to a club a couple of countries away in order to give him the opprtunity to come onto a betting forum at the slightest opportunity in order to slag off domestic leagues and clubs. still it takes all sorts i suppose. |
|
By:
what are u on about glory-hunting for? that has nothing whatever to do with this. silly of you to resort to that when you re losing an argument mex
|
|
By:
Yet mexicano I have only been called a glory hunter since the Spanish teams have improved, before I was just called deluded.
|
|
By:
its worthy of comment when 3 out of the 4 pl sides lost and the other had to come back from a 2 goal deficit against relative no-hopers
|
|
By:
what argument am i losing freddie?
he said the english league was not the best in the world. in my initial posting so did i. i then said it was the most commercially succesfull and most watched. i don't think too many disagree with any of that. unfortunatly the glory hunter couldn't get a row outta that, so he had to make up a few things i said in orfer to have a row. quite bizzre really |
|
By:
you've always been a glory hunter in my eyes.
|
|
By:
Mexicano you have also said quantifiable reasons such as viewing figures mean the EPL can be considered the best.
Yet dismiss people who follow teams in other countries. Such a muddled argument. Just contradicting yourself. |
|
By:
freddiek 24 Oct 12 22:51
biscuit the excitement and atmosphere between english sides means more to locals than whatever goes on in spain or anywhere else. because its local. even if the quality was/is dire people would still lap it up cos its on their doorstep and they can slag their rivals when they lose Not sure i get your point. Locality has nothing to do with it. Would you rather watch Liverpool v Chelsea or Bilbao v Real Madrid? Even games which aren't local like Newcastle v Spurs or Everton v Arsenal would be much better games and have much better atmospheres than a similar la liga fixture. Have you ever watched the early sunday la liga game? Dire quality, dire atmosphere. Compare that with the early sunday game here and there's quite often no comparison. More than half of la liga teams have an average attendance less than 24k. Doesn't make for a great spectacle. La Liga has the 2 best sides in the world, a side carried by Falcao, a side carried by Soldado then not much else. Malaga are doing really well but their best player left for the premier league. What else besides that? |
|
By:
for the record this was my initial posting.
-mexicano Date Joined: 13 Jan 02 Add contact | Send message 24 Oct 12 21:56 Joined: 13 Jan 02 | Topic/replies: 7,161 | Blogger: mexicano's blog it really rankles with some that the epl is widely acknowledged worldwide as the best league in the world. yeh ignore last years result, and pick a random week when the english teams don't do well to re-enforce their prejudices. imo this probably isn't the "best" league in the world, but it's the most commercially successful,the most exciting, and the most watched. AND THAT REALLY SEEMS TO GET UP SOME PEOPLES NOSES---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
|
By:
mexicano • October 24, 2012 10:01 PM BST
in your opinion it's not the best. in any quantifiable criteria. it's the best. mexicano • October 24, 2012 10:36 PM BST quantifiable is a number of things. viewing figures commercial success. trophys won. |
|
By:
i don't dismiss people who support teams in other countries.
I DERIDE THEM. it seem to me that the only reason people support such teams is for a touch of gloryhunting. |
|
By:
That make it clear that you did say viewing figures was a 'quantifiable reason' for it to be considered the best. Oh and 'commercial success'
Yet you 'deride' the foreign supporters that make this possible. As I said muddled and contradicting argument from you mexicano. |
|
By:
mexicano • October 24, 2012 9:58 PM BST
so you agree that as far as anything "quantifiable" the english is best. mexicano • October 24, 2012 10:36 PM BST quantifiable is a number of things. viewing figures commercial success. trophys won Caught telling porkies mexicano. |