Jul 16, 2017 -- 6:04PM, Injera wrote:

Market's made up its mind. 8s to chase something huge.

What price would SA be to chase 467 in two days? 20?

Jul 16, 2017 -- 6:19PM, johnnythebull wrote:

Cook f*cking sh1te as capt or non capt..lucky again for the flat track bullywho never produces when it matters

Pretty unfair on various levels. I don't think he's that good against top class pace but most batsmen aren't.

Jul 17, 2017 -- 1:32AM, pxb wrote:

I'm debating backing the draw. If Eng get thru the new ball then they will be batting under sunny skies and I can see the draw going pretty short. Although SAF should win this. Could go well into day 5.

I laid it at 30 at close (foolish in retrospect although it doesn't normally drop overnight) and 27 from already huge red. I'm looking to get back on in the 30s though, if possible before play. It's a very short price for the true chances of a draw, given that even Cook, Jennings and Ballance score fast enough to get England to the target (and even they will accelerate a bit if not out), let alone the guys who can't help but score from 4 down. I think the key is how you reckon the market will react to runs. If the draw is going to go out if they edge a few for 4 and there's the odd ball on the legs then it's a pretty ugly bet. I suspect initial signs of run scoring will bring the draw in, as wickets not falling equals draw but if they go at 3s for a few overs it will stall then come out again and faster than 3s and it might even come out quickly. I think you'd need a long, slow grind to get it down to the teens. It's hard to say though, as the price seems on drugs already, so how it will move, who knows? Well, wickets will send it up and how the openers bowled with the new ball in the sun yesterday evening, I'd be pretty nervous for a draw back. I don't think, even in the sun, there are going to be long spells of bat dominating ball. If I'm wrong I'll be sweating anyway, as I've gone very deep on this one.

Jul 17, 2017 -- 1:32AM, pxb wrote:

I'm debating backing the draw. If Eng get thru the new ball then they will be batting under sunny skies and I can see the draw going pretty short. Although SAF should win this. Could go well into day 5.

Unlikely to even reach Day 5, yes its a sunny day, but we are totally reliant on Cook, not scored many so far in this series, Root, Bairstow and Moheen to score the majority of runs. Its a Day 4 surface as well and the game is unlikely to go past today.