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By:
East_Coast_Eagle
When: 17 Jul 17 15:00
tail showing absolutely no fight
By:
detraveller
When: 17 Jul 17 15:00

Jul 17, 2017 -- 3:00PM, East_Coast_Eagle wrote:


tail showing absolutely no fight


they cant do it all the time

By:
tomtimtum
When: 17 Jul 17 15:01
and to think England were backed into 7.x to chase this Laugh
Poor Grant lost a packet, thinking England would chase this easy on this "runway"
By:
wondersobright
When: 17 Jul 17 15:01
lose by 340

they're not getting 340 with another 10 wickets in the shed Laugh
By:
DAN1974
When: 17 Jul 17 15:01
Pathetic effort from Enland today.
By:
East_Coast_Eagle
When: 17 Jul 17 15:03
i reckon whoever wins the toss in the 3rd test , will go on to win the match.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 17 Jul 17 15:04
A clearout required and low key & highly paid Trevor Bayliss needs to explain himself.   That is worse than anything that Windies have served up lately.
By:
tomtimtum
When: 17 Jul 17 15:05
Anyone see how much was matched on match odds?
Just looked at SL vs Zim game and 36m been matched already with a day to go!
Cricket turnover is insane atm
By:
wondersobright
When: 17 Jul 17 15:07
quite possibly ECE...the oval has been a bowl 1st venue and a happy hunting ground for visitors in recent years
By:
wondersobright
When: 17 Jul 17 15:07
dawson out
ballance out

for starters
By:
pixie
When: 17 Jul 17 15:07

DStyle 17 Jul 17 14:56 Joined: 20 Jan 05 | Topic/replies: 26,363 | Blogger: DStyle's blog
seriously, this is abject.

it's the same philosophy in the one day's as well.

just one f*cking gear, back yourselves, show aggressive intent.

it's just plain wrong.


Couldn't have put it better myself, completely brainless cricket.
By:
tomtimtum
When: 17 Jul 17 15:07
Root needs to go up to no.3
By:
detraveller
When: 17 Jul 17 15:07
Credit to Faf for batting first against Broad and Anderson, especially after what happened here in the last test.
By:
mafeking
When: 17 Jul 17 15:08
apparently this is the 8th time since 2015 england have won then lost the next match. rather sums up where we are in test cricket at the moment
By:
East_Coast_Eagle
When: 17 Jul 17 15:09

Jul 17, 2017 -- 3:05PM, tomtimtum wrote:


Anyone see how much was matched on match odds?Just looked at SL vs Zim game and 36m been matched already with a day to go!Cricket turnover is insane atm


think it was 72 mill AUD which is equivalent to 43 mill GBP

By:
wondersobright
When: 17 Jul 17 15:09
trent bridge a bat 1st venue, bowling 1st like root said he would have done would have hcapped themselves
By:
pixie
When: 17 Jul 17 15:09
Yep, FAF's captaincy was superb in every department throughout this match.
By:
detraveller
When: 17 Jul 17 15:17

Jul 17, 2017 -- 3:08PM, mafeking wrote:


apparently this is the 8th time since 2015 england have won then lost the next match. rather sums up where we are in test cricket at the moment


Will be interesting to find out how many times the bottom 5 have outscored the top 5. Must be quite often.

By:
geordie1956
When: 17 Jul 17 15:17
England 2.08 to win the series...a definite lay to me...far too many problems concerning the batting & unless Root or Cook get a big score the rest fall down almost immediately..both number 2 & 3 are real weak links & England as likely to collapse as produce a big score - Australia (assuming they play a proper team) will easily beat us in the Ashes as pace will be order of the day on their wickets and we look so susceptible to any half decent bowling
By:
johnnyrant
When: 17 Jul 17 15:49
Top order abysmal outside of Cook and Root which looked a glaring weakness before the 1st test at Lord's. What I don't get is the number of chances afforded to Ballance who has consistently been exposed at test level. Meanwhile, Ian Bell has seemingly been thrown on the scrap heap when he is a proven test class batsmen. Other test nations like Australia/India cherish test class batsmen and allow them play on until their late 30s. Eng seem to be keen to off-load their best batsmen past 30.
By:
prepared83
When: 17 Jul 17 15:53
james vince and mason crane required me thinks Cool
By:
Fatslogger
When: 17 Jul 17 15:53
Bell was abject for over a year in tests, so don't think we should weep for him but Ballance has been even worse and should be ditched. This was an all round horror show though.
By:
Fatslogger
When: 17 Jul 17 15:58

Jul 17, 2017 -- 3:53PM, prepared83 wrote:


james vince and mason crane required me thinks


Why bring in another spinner, particularly a kid? Vince is hardly any more than another flawed sacrificial lamb to good pace bowling either. Two batsmen for Ballance and Dawson. Not sure who without paying more attention to Lions and CC but Westley has to have a shout, especially as I think he scored runs against SA for the Lions.

By:
wondersobright
When: 17 Jul 17 15:58
a lot of sense there from nasser & pollock
By:
wondersobright
When: 17 Jul 17 15:59
vince done too much batting on rose bowl belters, was exposed in test cricket when he came in
By:
wondersobright
When: 17 Jul 17 16:03
dawson was bayliss's pick

jesus fkin christ, I might not be just dawson who is on borrowed time if this run of defeats continues
By:
geordie1956
When: 17 Jul 17 16:06
If Bayliss thinks Dawson is the answer then we do have problems with that sort of thinking Scared
By:
mafeking
When: 17 Jul 17 16:11
wouldn't hesitate to go back to hameed no matter he hasn't scored many runs this year. you could see he oozes class in the winter. the complete opposite of ballance
By:
wondersobright
When: 17 Jul 17 16:24
hameed fc scores since may

17, 23, 0, 2, 18, 38*, 9, 10, 0

I like him but its asking a lot to throw him back in isn't it (no cricket for 3 weeks either) Sad
By:
Fatslogger
When: 17 Jul 17 17:07
I wouldn't touch Hameed with a barge pole right now. I'm not a great believer in the phenomenon of form, which is often just random variation but Hameed now has a pretty indifferent overall record and putting him back in because of one or two decent test innings months ago would be a vast leap of faith and unfair to him too, I think. I'd rather give Hales another go and I don't think he's a particularly good selection either. Westley would probably be my choice.
By:
Injera
When: 17 Jul 17 17:33
England 338 - 20 is an incredible stat.

No Rabada and of course no Steyn. Olivier playing his 2nd test, Morris his 3rd, Kesh his 9th.
By:
DirkDiggler
When: 17 Jul 17 18:11
Complete lack of pride exhibited today, not one of them wanted to come out and bat properly.


That doesn't detract from SA's first class performance, or the fact that England are carrying 3-5 players every test.


Hopefully that's the end of 'well, he can bat a bit' Dawson, and Gary Ballance.
By:
FredRescue
When: 17 Jul 17 20:46
Who is batting well in Division 1?

Jonathan Trott Crazy
Sam Robson Happy
Paul Stirling Tongue Out

Good bunch of Englanders there Shocked
By:
mafeking
When: 17 Jul 17 22:34
suppose we shouldn't be surprised. england's home record in the major series of the summer since bayliss took over is WLWWLLWWLWL . struggling to think of any of them going to day 5 and all decided by massive margins - an innings, hundreds of runs or loads of wickets
By:
pxb
When: 17 Jul 17 23:00
Made a modest profit after starting with a SAF lay. A bit lucky as I backed Eng at 10 start of day 4 and just managed to lay off before wickets started to fall.
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