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By:
pxb
When: 02 Jan 16 20:58
If Eng bat past lunch tomorrow and they probably will, SAF will know they have no chance of a win and look to bat overs, which despite the last Test, they have a history of doing well.
By:
cricketnut2
When: 02 Jan 16 21:02
The trouble is, the history of this particular SA side, is that they can't bat overs.
By:
pxb
When: 02 Jan 16 21:02
You're up early, jucel.

Keep an eye on those showers east of Sydney.
By:
jucel69
When: 02 Jan 16 21:03

Jan 2, 2016 -- 9:02PM, pxb wrote:


You're up early, jucel.Keep an eye on those showers east of Sydney.


watchin emLaugh

By:
jucel69
When: 02 Jan 16 21:03

Jan 2, 2016 -- 9:02PM, pxb wrote:


You're up early, jucel.Keep an eye on those showers east of Sydney.


pure dedication this is!!

By:
jucel69
When: 02 Jan 16 21:05
Those showers could land right before play & the market will crumble
By:
pxb
When: 02 Jan 16 21:08
The trouble is, the history of this particular SA side, is that they can't bat overs.

I think that as well. Just that I'm in a good position and looking at what might go 'wrong' for me.
By:
jucel69
When: 02 Jan 16 21:15
Kept it amazingly simple so far this test. Backed the draw at 4.7 and cashed out at 2.7
Missed the last session as I fell asleep
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 02 Jan 16 22:15
I am big green draw, bigger red SA, tiny red Engerland

I don't care about SA red except if I wiped it I could back England

I want to hold biggest green on England

I am tempted to wait as I think draw will fall all day tomorrow and maybe even when SA bat it could go close to odds on

With regard to the match. I think England have the better bowlers and more variety and skill particularly with an old ball. I expect them to be able to reverse it and the pitch could be taking spin by day 3.

The pitch will be swept and rolled tomorrow morning. If they use their brains England could bat till tea and score in excess of 450 if the new ball does not get an early wicket. That will be a point of no return for SA. I think they may bat well on this wicket but if England get the ball to reverse after 30 to 40 overs say by the third morning or the pitch starts to indicate it may spin consistently I would hope to be able to lay the draw or smash into England at close ish to evens particularly if AB and Amla are at the wicket

It will be a fine balance between the Draw and England tomorrow,. The big advantage is that SA will be going out every 10-20 runs in the morning. I am confident England score 450 plus maybe even 500.

Btw I think Morkel has a side strain. I think that is why he didn't take the second new ball. His pace was down enough to merit a raised eyebrow even if he only bowled one over. The extent of it is now imho an unknown known.
By:
Fatslogger
When: 03 Jan 16 00:07

Jan 2, 2016 -- 9:15PM, jucel69 wrote:


Kept it amazingly simple so far this test. Backed the draw at 4.7 and cashed out at 2.7Missed the last session as I fell asleep


Nice work. I didn't do quite as well as that with the draw backs at 4.5 and 4.7 pre test, lay at 3.6 before a ball bowled then a back at 3.6 when the draw oddly jumped up a few overs in, lays 3.2 and 3 but also got a nice lay of SA at 4 at lunch and bought back at 6.

I'm now wondering how long to wait on a draw lay at 3 or so, bearing in mind that it may disappear entirely if either overnight batsman is out early. I don't see this game drawn, I really don't. Of course it could be but 3.2 seems a very generous price to lay at.

By:
TerryHurlock
When: 03 Jan 16 08:06
Draw 2.86 now.......wtf
By:
Fatslogger
When: 03 Jan 16 08:39

Jan 3, 2016 -- 8:06AM, TerryHurlock wrote:


Draw 2.86 now.......wtf


Yeah, didn't think it would come in quite this much with a good start. Slightly irked I layed it at 3.1 and 2.92 now but could easily have been a wicket if I'd waited. They've just bowled badly to Stokes again this morning so far, although in this mood he gives you little room for error. If he gets to a ton he'll probably open up even more and either get out or score so fast that he's effectively putting time back in the game for England.

By:
detraveller
When: 03 Jan 16 08:45
Dont understand why draw moving in with fast scoring. Maybe market thinks its a flat pitch but its clearly not and even if it is, England's attack is good enough for 20 wickets.
By:
DAN1974
When: 03 Jan 16 08:46
SA are virtually out of this now imo.
By:
detraveller
When: 03 Jan 16 08:54

Jan 3, 2016 -- 8:46AM, DAN1974 wrote:


SA are virtually out of this now imo.


Yes. Cant see them taking 20 wickets.

By:
DAN1974
When: 03 Jan 16 09:00
This couldnt of gone any better for me, i layed SA at 4.7 when they walked off and after half an hour this morning they are in double figures Excited
By:
Fatslogger
When: 03 Jan 16 09:11

Jan 3, 2016 -- 8:46AM, DAN1974 wrote:


SA are virtually out of this now imo.


Short of rattling this innings, scoring lots themselves then bowling a lot better second inning, yes. Given their attack I'd say that's vanishingly, vanishingly unlikely.

By:
Fatslogger
When: 03 Jan 16 09:13
I got quite a decent chunk of a further draw lay at 2.62, pleasantly surprisingly.  Yes, match scenarios where the game is won by SA have evaporated but the England win has become a lot likelier with the quick runs buying them even more time to bowl SA out twice.
By:
dylansdad
When: 03 Jan 16 09:16
wow what have i missed this morning 70 runs in the 8 overs thats crazyCrazy
By:
detraveller
When: 03 Jan 16 09:16
I Dont know which move to make here. When is the right time to back England?
By:
dylansdad
When: 03 Jan 16 09:17
9.20 am
By:
dylansdad
When: 03 Jan 16 09:18
Grin
By:
DStyle
When: 03 Jan 16 09:21
Injera 02 Jan 16 17:25 
The deeper the match goes the more strain on an unconvincing SA bowling unit.

I hope Bayliss will tell Stokes and Bairstow to bat sensibly for an hour without risk. After that, SA will be out of the game.


No need for histrionics early doors tomorrow. Grind 'em into the dust.


silently agreed with this when i read it last night

Laugh
By:
dylansdad
When: 03 Jan 16 09:23
well happy with this start, keep it up and will be almost on 500 by lunch
By:
dylansdad
When: 03 Jan 16 09:23
last 100 in 91 balls
By:
johnnythebull
When: 03 Jan 16 09:23
what i don't quite understand is why have they scheduled this T20 in the middle of a test match?
yeah,i know it's exciting for the crowd but come on..
Ben Stokes you are an absolute stud
i've never seen an inns like this
By:
dylansdad
When: 03 Jan 16 09:25

Jan 3, 2016 -- 9:23AM, johnnythebull wrote:


what i don't quite understand is why have they scheduled this T20 in the middle of a test match?yeah,i know it's exciting for the crowd but come on..Ben Stokes you are an absolute studi've never seen an inns like this


heard the comms on the radio saying his batting ave 27 and bowling around 40 not good enough for a allrounder, this innings helping to correct that stat

By:
dylansdad
When: 03 Jan 16 09:27
95 runs in 11.4 overs this morning is carnage
By:
johnnythebull
When: 03 Jan 16 09:27
absolutely unbelievable knock..surreal really..like smth out of X-Box
By:
Fatslogger
When: 03 Jan 16 09:28

Jan 3, 2016 -- 9:16AM, detraveller wrote:


I Dont know which move to make here. When is the right time to back England?


Earlier in the test! Probably a bit of value at 1.8 but hardly a huge price. I do think the SA batting will get exposed again though.

By:
dylansdad
When: 03 Jan 16 09:28
hear that guys once from 18 1st inns that a team passed 400 and lost??
By:
DStyle
When: 03 Jan 16 09:29
as f*cking awesome as this is, stokes' issue is that he does seem to only have two gears, the first being batshit crazy t20 smasheroo, the second is sketchy scratch mode.

it's a problem that his game, both with the bat and the ball, is rather unsuited to the type of wickets england have been preparing for their test matches, whereas quicker SA and Australian wickets are much better for his batting and bowling.
By:
Fatslogger
When: 03 Jan 16 09:29

Jan 3, 2016 -- 9:28AM, dylansdad wrote:


hear that guys once from 18 1st inns that a team passed 400 and lost??


This ground?

By:
dylansdad
When: 03 Jan 16 09:30
yes
By:
johnnythebull
When: 03 Jan 16 09:31
betting seems to indicate the draw is the perceived most likely outcome as Eng price isn't really getting any skinnier
but are the Saffer batsmen good enough?
i'm not so sure
think the draw is a lay
By:
johnnythebull
When: 03 Jan 16 09:33
it must be absolutely brilliant to be out there as a brit in awesome weather in an awesome location watching this unfold live
a moment in time to cherish forever
By:
dylansdad
When: 03 Jan 16 09:42
115 from 14 overs, what would it be if SA was up with the over rate?
By:
dylansdad
When: 03 Jan 16 09:46
stokes looking to clear boundary every shot
By:
geordie1956
When: 03 Jan 16 09:48
brutal but brilliant to watch
By:
detraveller
When: 03 Jan 16 09:53
Amla's future could be in doubt here, unless he starts coring runs. He wouldn't get a better track than this to do that.
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