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By:
detraveller
When: 02 Jan 16 14:55
By the way Aussie game is getting more and more interesting with the weather forecast. Can't wait for it to get started!
By:
the whizz kids
When: 02 Jan 16 14:58

Jan 2, 2016 -- 2:55PM, detraveller wrote:


By the way Aussie game is getting more and more interesting with the weather forecast. Can't wait for it to get started!


I missed out on the bigger prices but still happy to be on.Happy

By:
Injera
When: 02 Jan 16 15:09
Overs will be lost today. 3 or 4.
By:
trader pj
When: 02 Jan 16 15:27
when Draw looks short it often gets shorter !!!

explanation: good pitch
By:
the whizz kids
When: 02 Jan 16 15:29
Can't see the draw price being this short come day 4/5.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 02 Jan 16 15:32
Be very exciting and good for my book if both of these come off together, a monster stand scored in quick time.
By:
trader pj
When: 02 Jan 16 15:32
Draw always flirts with Even money. Its the way these test match markets work
By:
Injera
When: 02 Jan 16 15:35
Another clanger from Amla. He has 6 or 7 overs with the new ball and he panics after 2 4s. Takes out the third slip and...
By:
the whizz kids
When: 02 Jan 16 15:44
The draw flirted with 6/4 early on and I went SNAP.Wink
By:
wondersobright
When: 02 Jan 16 15:44

Jan 2, 2016 -- 3:35PM, Injera wrote:


Another clanger from Amla. He has 6 or 7 overs with the new ball and he panics after 2 4s. Takes out the third slip and...


wished he'd fkin retire, well past his use by date

By:
detraveller
When: 02 Jan 16 15:44
One slip for Stokes. That was the exact purpose of that onslaught from Stokes.
By:
trader pj
When: 02 Jan 16 15:48

Jan 2, 2016 -- 3:44PM, the whizz kids wrote:


The draw flirted with 6/4 early on and I went SNAP.


It will be back @ 6/4 again tomorrow morning imo

By:
DAN1974
When: 02 Jan 16 15:48
SA have lost the plot
By:
Injera
When: 02 Jan 16 15:52
There only hope is if these 2 get overexcited.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 02 Jan 16 16:03
What the market does during Stumps is not always easy to predict but my guess Saffers are more likely to hit 6's rather than down to 4.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 02 Jan 16 16:03
What the market does during Stumps is not always easy to predict but my guess Saffers are more likely to hit 6's rather than down to 4.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 02 Jan 16 16:03
What the market does during Stumps is not always easy to predict but my guess Saffers are more likely to hit 6's rather than down to 4.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 02 Jan 16 16:03
What the market does during Stumps is not always easy to predict but my guess Saffers are more likely to hit 6's rather than down to 4.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 02 Jan 16 16:03
What the market does during Stumps is not always easy to predict but my guess Saffers are more likely to hit 6's rather than down to 4.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 02 Jan 16 16:03
What the market does during Stumps is not always easy to predict but my guess Saffers are more likely to hit 6's rather than down to 4.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 02 Jan 16 16:03
What the market does during Stumps is not always easy to predict but my guess Saffers are more likely to hit 6's rather than down to 4.
By:
tomtimtum
When: 02 Jan 16 16:03
break of play is good for SA
By:
tomtimtum
When: 02 Jan 16 16:04
Dont think their odds can get worse
By:
DAN1974
When: 02 Jan 16 16:04
Well that partnership has certainly sorted my book out Excited
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 02 Jan 16 16:05
Those multiple postings are a mystery to me, no idea what causes that. Devil
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 02 Jan 16 16:07
Laugh
By:
cricketnut2
When: 02 Jan 16 16:40
England, have had another excellent day, if they can get the score up to 400 or more hopefully, then England ought to be winning this Test as well. Something in the wicket for everyone, batsman, seamers and spinners, so a good surface as well.
By:
DStyle
When: 02 Jan 16 17:15
south africa seem exceedingly short given where they went off at.

even if england get skittled for 350 from here, they've still got a lot of work to do to get themselves back to parity and then they've got to worry about batting last.

england find another 120 in two sessions and they'll need to do something extraordinary.
By:
Injera
When: 02 Jan 16 17:25
The deeper the match goes the more strain on an unconvincing SA bowling unit.

I hope Bayliss will tell Stokes and Bairstow to bat sensibly for an hour without risk. After that, SA will be out of the game.

No need for histrionics early doors tomorrow. Grind 'em into the dust.
By:
geordie1956
When: 02 Jan 16 17:46
england to get 410-420+ & that should be a match winning position
By:
Asparagus Man
When: 02 Jan 16 18:41
Agree Saffers look short - think they would need to get a decent 1st innings lead to have a sniff here and that looks a long way off.

If you fancy SA to do well a draw back looks a better play in the medium term.

Think SA will have a few decent stands 1st dig to push the draw lower, but England win in the end.

England have much better bowlers - only Morkel would really have a case to be in a combined team amongst the bowlers.
By:
DAN1974
When: 02 Jan 16 18:53
I agree, im trying to imagine what SA need to do to win. probably bowl England out in the morning for less than 400, score 400+ themselves, then bowl England out in 3 sessions and then knock the runs off on a fifth day pitch. I make that more than a 4.7 chance.
By:
pxb
When: 02 Jan 16 18:58
I'd be surprised if SAF get anywhere close to England's first innings total.

My main concern is Cook will bat too long 2nd Innings as Eng don't need the win here. But even then England's bowling should be too good.
By:
Injera
When: 02 Jan 16 19:33
I suppose the market thinks SA will bowl Eng out for less than 400. I think that's very possible with fresh bowlers and a new ball.

You'd still have to be very optimistic to think SA can post 400+ and then bowl England out cheaply.
By:
TerryHurlock
When: 02 Jan 16 19:58
Been at work all day and it's torture trying to follow on the phoneMischief
Cheers to one and all for the updates, thoughts,reasoning and general good waffle..much obliged

Just watching the verdict on sky and Bob Willis just said Morkel might be injured as he wasn't given the new ball....
Safas drifting too....anyone laying the books at 5's
By:
Injera
When: 02 Jan 16 20:06
Tempted to Terry but holding fire at the moment.

It was odd re Morkel. He bowled the penultimate over of the day and charged in.
By:
TerryHurlock
When: 02 Jan 16 20:16
Agree Injera it's tempting alright.... Willis never mentioned Morkel looked ok but the conversation changed to Amla and his captaincy so it's a wait for more updates...... Atherton just said he's a bit confused as to why as well....
will hold fire at the mo....but loading the gun in case it's required
Gl
By:
Fatslogger
When: 02 Jan 16 20:28

Jan 2, 2016 -- 6:58PM, pxb wrote:


I'd be surprised if SAF get anywhere close to England's first innings total.My main concern is Cook will bat too long 2nd Innings as Eng don't need the win here. But even then England's bowling should be too good.


This is possible but SA would need a decent enough first innings score for there to be much risk of Cook batting on too long and also England would have to avoid being bowled out for long enough both innings for that to enter the equation. The England batting line up is actually quite well set up to take painfully late declarations largely out of the hands of the captain by hitting hard and getting out from 4 down. For example, of course England will hope to bat for at least the morning sessions tomorrow and ideally well last lunch but there won't be any dawdling if so. I slightly suspect the draw may not come in that much even if England wickets don't fall, as Stokes, Bairstow and Ali on down will all give it a clout, although the market does tend to take that kind of thing as meaning a flat wicket. I'd hate to miss out in the event that England end up all out for 400 just before lunch though.

The main risk in laying the draw, which I'm keen to do for quite a lot, is that SA actually bat well, although I suspect even then that this England attack will have a bit too much.

By:
detraveller
When: 02 Jan 16 20:29

Jan 2, 2016 -- 6:58PM, pxb wrote:


I'd be surprised if SAF get anywhere close to England's first innings total.My main concern is Cook will bat too long 2nd Innings as Eng don't need the win here. But even then England's bowling should be too good.


Why would Cook think he doesn't need to win here? 300+ for 5 on day 1, they have clearly won day 1. Its ok to bat long and make the game safe, but if he odoesn't give his bowlers at least 4.5 bowlers to knock SA out, then he is stupid. what's the use of batsmen like Stokes, Moeen and Bairstow playing fast when you aren't going to use it to your advantage.

By:
jucel69
When: 02 Jan 16 20:51

Jan 2, 2016 -- 8:29PM, detraveller wrote:


Jan  2, 2016 --  6:58PM, pxb wrote:I'd be surprised if SAF get anywhere close to England's first innings total.My main concern is Cook will bat too long 2nd Innings as Eng don't need the win here. But even then England's bowling should be too good.Why would Cook think he doesn't need to win here? 300+ for 5 on day 1, they have clearly won day 1. Its ok to bat long and make the game safe, but if he odoesn't give his bowlers at least 4.5 bowlers to knock SA out, then he is stupid. what's the use of batsmen like Stokes, Moeen and Bairstow playing fast when you aren't going to use it to your advantage.


1-0 up away from home in SA. Cook will not give them a sniff!

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