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I don’t much like the Irish Americans , especially when they think what we do over Brexit is any business of them
You see those Americans can fk off |
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Read it again and again.
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I’m very fair that way
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For years you've been banging on about how brilliant the Yanks are but now you qualify it. You really are a weasel.
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I can’t like all Americans Charlie , that would be silly
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You're clutching at straws and they wont take your weight. You lost.
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Hmmm , ok Charlie , i do like everyone in America , any better ?
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I like president Trump , do you ?
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It's no longer relevant what you say. You don't understand the words you type which is relevant. You aren't capable of a coherent argument.
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Lol , you might be right I’m not particularly intelligent
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No lfc, you know damn well what you are about.
You for some reason are poisonous,anti Irish,not anti American, but anti Irish American,anti 6 counties anti catholic, or is it just Irish catholic. You are extremely foolish but think you are clever, yet everyone finds you out. I can only imagine the neglect and suffering you must have endured to be so lonely and needy. |
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lfc1971
Now you say Britain is the aggressor , well that’s not true It’s not true now and it wasn’t true in history You see in history Ireland tried to conspire with foreign countries to overthough the English king and parliament Now that was a mistake right there , and if you do that you are part of the problem and dont start crying when there are consequences ...................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... You must be referring above to English kings. Charles II died in 1685, and was succeeded by his brother James II. When an heir was born to James the Whigs showed their disloyalty to their King James. They invited James’s daughter Mary, a Protestant, and her husband, William of Orange, to the English throne. Who was doing the overthrowing of the English king? Are we talking about the first overthrowing or the second overthrowing? Anyway, the consequences for Ireland (spectators to a spat between English monarchs) was: In 1692 an Irish Parliament was convened in Dublin, Catholics excluded, and that exclusion lasted for the next 138 years. This parliament passed Penal Laws: All Catholic bishops and clergy ordered to leave the country (except a few “registered” parish priests). Before a decade had passed, by the year 1700 a total of 1,000,000 acres was taken from 41,000 Irish landowners. After that Catholics could not have lands on long lease, or acquire them by purchase, gift, or legacy. Catholics could not be members of parliament, vote in elections, enter the legal profession, army, navy. civil service, become a printer, gunmaker, or be apprenticed to a Protestant. Catholics were not allowed to keep a school, teach in a school, barred for sending children abroad t o be educated, or be taught at home by tutors. These Penal laws lasted until the 1840s. By 1845 the Irish population was 8.5 million (about twice today's figure). Ireland was then, as it is now, a great cattle and cereal producing country. But the people had to pay rents (rack rents) to absentee landlords (in England). The bulk of the population lived on potatoes. Then the famine of 1846-1848 happened, a million died, another million emigrated. I should point out here that between 1641 and 1654 about a third of Ireland's population died from war and poverty, not as well remembered as the famine two hundred years later. Oliver Cromwell paid us a visit in 1949, leaving in 1965 to meet the threat of Charles II, but left his army in Ireland under the command of his son-in-law. The English parliament took 11,000,000 acres of land from the Irish, and gave them to new English settlers. England declared war on Germany in 1939, 17 years after Irish independence in 1922, and after 800 years of occupation and control by England. In those 17 years 1922 to 1939 England waged an economic war on Ireland, refusing to take agricultural exports. It is interesting to me and other Irish posters on this forum to see lfc1971 stand on the high moral ground and accuse Ireland and Irishmen of a lack of moral responsibility. |
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*Oliver Cromwell paid us a visit in 1949, leaving in 1950
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That’s a bit unfair peckerdunne, Charlie was asking the questions and I was only answering honestly
I’m like that |
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I'm in awe at some of the brains on the forums myself, you do give the Irish shocking bad press though,generalisation is never right,,saying that most people whatever nationality are "normal" and just getting through life,Welsh fella living next door to my elderly parents and they couldn't have better.
I grew up in long condemded tenements in the Marsh(Cork city centre) had feck all, but the people and the community were strong and you without realising it had everything. |
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kincsem anything that happened 100 years ago doesn’t bother me so you are wasting your time
I insist on being unbothered by what happened to Charles 1 , sorry |
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I don’t give two hoots about Cromwell either. I’m sure he had his reasons
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You see I’m sure he didn’t send a new model army into Ireland for no good reason. Now did he ?
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The countries NOT invaded by England/United Kingdom
Monaco, Mongolia, Marshall Islands, Mali, Luxembourg, Liechtenstein, Kyrgyzstan, Ivory Coast, Andorra, Bolivia, Belarus, DemocraticRepublic of Congo, Burundi, Central African Republic, Guatemala, Chad, Paraquay, Vatican City, Tajikistan, Sweden, Uzbekistan and Sao Tome and Principle. Thanks for inviting us to a war. |
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Lol, well we were a very great Empire
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Look here’s the simple fact of life , Britain ruled the world for the best part of four centuries , and the world was better for it
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You don't care about history though.
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I like history pl, but I don’t let it rule my thinking today
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He's only interested in the present, everyone knows this as he has repeated the fact often on this thread.
He is just taking the mickey. |
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facts peckerdunne I love and honour facts
And the fact is British civilisation is the greatest civilisation that has ever existed in the history of the world , it was something like a miracle |
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Which lodge do you belong to.
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I don’t pecker , you are going to to stop viewing things in a bigoted way
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lfc1971
Now you say Britain is the aggressor , well that’s not true It’s not true now and it wasn’t true in history Kinscem made some facts available to you. |
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No kincsem did not , as I said he mentioned Cromwell , well Cromwell didn’t go into Ireland for no reason
You see if Ireland is trying to undermine the English Parliament , with the help of foreign countries Then don’t expect that Ireland is immune from the consequences , that was a big mistake |
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You see for all it’s faults that was the first democratic Parliament in the world , it meant an English civil war to get rid of the absolute monarchy
Now it was good and essential that that Parliament survived , and not Ireland or France or Spain or Scotland was going to overthrough the English Parliament , thank god |
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No country in the world was going to do that
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He mentioned the penal wars and the Irish holocaust as well as did Irishone, but as that is so shameful you have no option but to pretend it never happened.
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Many tried , they all failed
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Pl , I’ve given my opinion on what happened with the Irish famine
I’m not going to explain to you again there was no intention from the British government that anyone should die , I’ve set it out earlier so if you want to believe differently that says more about you and your opinion of the British Penal laws etc , I’ve told you the reason for that is clear , It was necessary at the time to stop Ireland and its foreign allies , that’s how war is , it’s a brutal thing |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zup_-iFp4tQ
Here's a beautifully sung song. Please listen to the words as you hum along... |
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Let me ask you this one question.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EzMIIoCtwyY |
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Now of course Ireland got independence 100 years ago
Well who do you think built those fine houses in Dublin the industry in Belfast , the infrastructure , the railways , the schools the hospitals ... It was Britain that did that |
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No need to say thankyou , just stop whining
Thanks |
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lfc you say you are fair.
So let's do a deal, you listen to the song i posted and i'll not whine so much, if that quip was for me. |
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Listened to it peckerdunne , I’ve heard it before I like folk music
Interesting comment below about the potato failure caused by blighted seed potatoes send from America purchased from Mexico Not sure if any truth to that, would need to research |