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Many of my family lost their lifes in WWII and Britain and America and their allies played a major part in the defeat of the Nazis, but only a fool would discredit the part of the Russians, who defeated the cream of the German military on the Eastern front. And btw, the Russians were our Allies in WWII and Churchill and Roosevelt supplied them military aid via the Arctic convoys.
If you want to learn about the Russian-German war, I suggest that you read Prof. John Erickson`s two volume account entitled The Road To Stalingrad and The Road To Berlin, which is the regarded by scholars as the greatest account of the war on the Eastern Front. And don`t bother quoting figures from Wiki. |
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And don`t count the 1.5 million Germans that surrendered in April at the end of the War in the West.
I have nothing more to say on the subject. |
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I seem to recollect a Harbour and German Boats ?
TBH when I was young I actually Thought there was a Cause , I would imagine many on the other side thought the same But when u seen PIGS from both sides blowing up Women and children ,,,,,,,,THE ABERCORN ,and I don't care who the perps were , I realised what scum must be involved ,and it was nowt I wanted to be associated with ![]() Both sides have probably done worse , but Maiming and blinding Children ,is not worth any cause ................ |
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Mac your figures are wrong , I read years ago not in wiki the true figures and I remember being surprised there were 2.8 million german soldiers who surrendered to the western allies between D day and April 1945
More german soldiers were killed and captured by American and British soldiers than the Russians Oh and by the way the western allies had the difficult and time consuming task of taking and feeding and processing these captured german soldiers , while the Russian army was more likely to shoot them That’s when they weren’t raping an estimated 2 million german , Polish , Ukrainian ..women between the ages of 8 and 80 They weren’t called thevatmy of rapists for nothing Or do you dispute those figures as well in your bigoted mindset? |
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Oh and by the way the military aid that you mention supplied to Russia by Churchill and Roosevelt in the arctic convoys
That was our military and merchant navy undertaking that perilous task to help Russia , That was just another dangerous theatre of war that Britain and America had to undergo |
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www.irishholocaust.org/liverpoolandthegreathunger
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Pa lapsy do you want me to enlighten you to the genocide committed by the Irish in Scotland so brutal and ruthless that it almost totally wiped out the original Scots , the Picts both it’s people and it’s culture ?
That mass slaughter by the Irish in Scotland so complete it all but wiped out the original people Did they teach you that in Irish history ? , look it up |
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You see you will find the Irish are not always the victims , often they are the aggressors
Who commit savage and brutal crimes, remember Warrington ? |
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I might look it up later if i have the time lfc,
I knew you would appreciate the insight of the "interesting" history of your hometown. |
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Warrington ?
What about croke park 1921 ? If history doesnt bother you ....why hang on to it ? |
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Please pa lapsy , try not to excuse the behaviour of the Irish in Scotland so savage and brutal amounting to a genocide , or holocaust if you prefer that term , on the indigenous people of Scotland
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Shame that kind of thinking is bandied about Irishone,a simple task for UK to leave and a pigs ear up to now,still time for common sense and using the Irish Sea backstop.
Since you are an avid history buff lfc maybe you can elaborate about Liverpool and the slave trade,tia. |
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Thought he was s wind up to be honest .....
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People engage with him for the entertainment value he provides. The only problem is he doesn't know when to stop. Theres a fine line between being a clown and being an idiot. He can't differentiate between the two.
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And if anybody should know that its you
,with a touch of evil of course,still karma will shaft you in the end![]() |
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This tribalism caused by brexit isnt good
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How did the queens eleven do today ?
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lfc1971
No that’s wrong , I’ve explained before that Ireland with other foreign enemies of England tried to overthrow England’s parliament , gained after a bloody civil war in England ending the absolute monarchy , the first democratic parliament . Now that was a big mistake on Ireland’s part If you are part of the war then you can’t expect not to suffer the consequences now can you It is amazing that you can make accusations, and not mention one name or one date. Could you be referring to the death of Charles II in 1685, and the succession by his brother James II, a Catholic. James gave a Declaration of Indulgence in England (and Ireland) granting freedom of religion. This was unpopular with Protestants. When an heir was born in 1688 to Catholic James II, it was feared a succession line of Catholic monarchs would result, and Protestants renounced their loyalty to their King (I assume they were "Loyalists"), and invited his daughter Mary (Protestant) and her husband, William of Orange, Protestant, to the English throne. King James II fled to France to get help from Louis XIV. "King" James looked to Ireland as a path back to the throne of England, arriving on the southern coast at Kinsale in 1689. The Battle of the Boyne 1690 was between a usurped English King, James II, and his usurper William of Orange. Perhaps lfc1971 has a different period of history in mind where the Irish were at fault and deserved to suffer the consequences. If lfc1971 has the time he could list the invasions of England by Irish armies over the centuries, with dates and names of course. |
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I am thankful that at least some of the jews survived the holocaust. At least it was a better result than the whole jewish community of york being massacred by the english in 1190.....
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So, so you think you can tell
Heaven from hell Blue skies from pain Can you tell a green field From a cold steel rail A smile from a veil Do you think you can tell Did they get you to trade Your heroes for ghosts Hot ashes for trees Hot air for a cool breeze Cold comfort for change Did you exchange A walk on part in the war For a lead role in a cage |
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FFS we're back to 1190.
Can anyone beat that? |
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300 BC Clonycavan Man murdered.
Never been solved causing consternation amongst his relatives who have asked that the PSNI reopen the investigation. |
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500 BC
Aka got a correct score bet up. ![]() |
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This is the sort of thread we get, when we decide to discuss the history of Ireland with...Noddy
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