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By:
lfc1971
When: 28 Aug 19 20:04
Yes isn’t that very generous of the Irish government, but they are living here, in the U.K.
we have the responsibility to find jobs and healthcare and homes and schools and social services and benefits etc
That is the responsibility of the UK to those 8 million, but the Irish pm gives them a passport , very generous
Of course we know who they will be more grateful to and it won’t be England
Strange isn’t it ?
By:
pa lapsy
When: 28 Aug 19 20:12
So lfc you are complaining about someones grandparents being Irish using up your actually non too precious resourses of housing,healthcare etc?
Quite likely one of the grandparents was Irish.
Strange isn,t it?
Take the staffy for a walk lfc and come back.
By:
lfc1971
When: 28 Aug 19 20:24
I don’t want to say any more on the subject pl , just to say when you have so many people in a country , whose main allegiance is not to that country but to a different country. That can be a recipe for disaster,  a very dangerous thing
By:
lfc1971
When: 28 Aug 19 20:27
You see that’s why I’m worried about someone waving an Irish tricolour outside the Queens residence at Balmoral
And protesting against Brexit , that worries me it doesn’t seen right , any sensitive person would agree
By:
peckerdunne
When: 28 Aug 19 20:30
lfc1971 28 Aug 19 07:25 Joined: 06 Nov 11 | Topic/replies: 34,674 | Blogger: lfc1971's blog
Here’s peckers first statement about WW2

England was bombed,  bust , desperate
I expect you would be grateful we came to assist ....



lfc stop quoting me out of context..again you twist things to suit your own agenda, a filthy bigot and racist agenda set by vermin.

I never discussed the war per se in any shape or form.

I merely replied to your poison regarding the Irish and how we helped build Britain after the war.

You truly are a repugnant odious vile little cretin.
By:
flushgordon1
When: 28 Aug 19 20:42
The bogrush generation?
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 28 Aug 19 20:45
You see that’s why I’m worried about someone waving an Irish tricolour outside the Queens residence at Balmoral
And protesting against Brexit , that worries me it doesn’t seen right , any sensitive person would agree


It is nothing to do with Southern Ireland whether we leave the EU or not

It is the decision of the UK (including N.Ireland, which is part of the UK))
By:
pa lapsy
When: 28 Aug 19 20:50
To an extent Uble,Ireland will be affected, agree it isn't right to be waving a triclor though outside Westminister,cringeworthy.
By:
lfc1971
When: 28 Aug 19 21:09
nonsense pecker , I haven’t said anything bad about the Irish per se
By:
lfc1971
When: 28 Aug 19 21:26
We need to leave the EU , quietly and as calmly as possible
Even leave in Oct and then gradually over the next few years change things , we need Ireland to help just a little bit
That really shouldn’t be too much to ask ?
Don’t forget we have to remain on these islands as neighbours so we should try and get along as best we can
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 28 Aug 19 21:44
It is THIS COUNTRIES decision to leave, nobody else.

Still if the South can help with the Border issue, you have a point pa lapsy, lfc1971
By:
pa lapsy
When: 28 Aug 19 21:56
How can it help?  The tories are doing what are best for their party. The backstop isn't even the problem with them,they just want votes.The South ought to be ok justabout,Northern Ireland will get hammered as things stand imo
By:
boxingthefox
When: 28 Aug 19 21:57

Aug 28, 2019 -- 7:18PM, moisok wrote:


Someone doesn't like the idea that they were not with us over opposing nazi rule and in some instances actually welcomed the nazis.


mo, I'm not getting into a discussion about this, I have lived here since 1960, and love this country. I as said many times on here I owe aeverything to this country, and Ihope I repaid it with my loyalty, My taxes, and involvment in many spheres to the good of community and country as a whole.

I despair at the self serving 'Irish' who suddenly became Eureopean when money flowed their way, as for waving the 'Tri' on British soil, we can't shoot them but we could jail them.

The issue I have with you on this is your take on Ireland serving the Nazies, Ireland was the
'1st point of contact' (listening station) when German planes swooped around these Isles from the atlantic to bomb England, Just one of many, many, examples of Ireland working with England at that time, which has never been widley acknolledged. So I forgive your ignorance.

If you choose to have an Alzheimer's episode about the incredible amount 'Irish' casualties in both World wars, (fighting in British uniforms) and many other besides for hundreds of years, so be it.

In 800 years of English rule there is as much English blood in the population of Ireland as there is Irish in England. I cannot speak for 'modern Ireland as I simply don't recognise them, they are foreign to me.

I will not reply further.

PS glad we didn't meet up.

By:
flushgordon1
When: 28 Aug 19 22:13
An come on lads it's just banter ,take Celtic and parked away and we will call it quits.
By:
anxious
When: 28 Aug 19 22:15
1 more European Cup than the queens eleven though Cool
By:
pa lapsy
When: 28 Aug 19 22:18
Nah Flush,no deal.
By:
boxingthefox
When: 28 Aug 19 22:18
Hey anx , Im off, hope you are well and more importantly winning. Happy
By:
boxingthefox
When: 28 Aug 19 22:20
Last post, flush, stop talking phish.
By:
lfc1971
When: 28 Aug 19 22:20
very good post boxingthefox , but then again your posts often are I recall
( but don’t fall out with moisok he’s a good egg also )
By:
anxious
When: 28 Aug 19 22:21
ok there boxing im trying hope you are ok and wining too Cool
By:
pa lapsy
When: 28 Aug 19 22:23
Have you heard from Workrider Boxingthefox?.you aren't wrong wit your sentiments on a gambling forum.
By:
flushgordon1
When: 28 Aug 19 22:24
Keep Glasgow tidy , just take Neil Lennon then foxy?
By:
boxingthefox
When: 28 Aug 19 22:30
Thanks guys, I'm beyond falling out, but some cliched posts wind me up, pa, I have not spoken to workrider for a while now, he knows me and my family who have been involved in racing for a long while, we are a dying (literally) breed. CryLaughLaugh

GL and GN guys, be lucky
By:
flushgordon1
When: 28 Aug 19 22:35
Ok deal wonky for Lennon
By:
anxious
When: 28 Aug 19 22:40
Whats up with you flasher the queens eleven have 0 European Cups , can you confirm this
By:
pa lapsy
When: 28 Aug 19 22:40
Thanks BTF, No Flush Grin,we hold all the cards.
By:
flushgordon1
When: 28 Aug 19 22:48
Och the european cup was getting won by wee diddy teams fae Portugal and places like that, the best player was an Ayrshireman and Big Ronnie Simpson was a Tory.
By:
flushgordon1
When: 28 Aug 19 22:50
The Texaco cup was more important.
By:
anxious
When: 28 Aug 19 22:58
European Cups
Celtic 1
Manchester United 3
Liverpool 6
Queens eleven 0
By:
flushgordon1
When: 28 Aug 19 23:05
I worked with Billy when we were selling mortgages with confederation life even he said it was a wee diddy cup.
By:
dukeofpuke
When: 29 Aug 19 01:47
Potatoes 1 Ireland 0

the potatoes are still 1-0 up as the population of Ireland is still lower now than before the Potatoes went 1-0 up
By:
akabula
When: 29 Aug 19 17:57
Charlie
200,000 Irish fought in WW1.
Even though officially neutral 70,000 Irish fought in the British armed forces in WW2.


Absolutely correct and we should be thankful for their involvement however that's not the end of the story.
When WW2 ended and those of the 70,000 that had survived returned home they were treated as criminals.
nobody would employ them and they were refused unemployment benefit. Many had to leave Ireland just to survive.
The ROI government in 2013 apologised for its actions and issued pardons to all involved.
The ROI might have been neutral but they remained hostile to the UK in our war against the Nazis.
By:
Charlie
When: 29 Aug 19 18:11
akabula
I did know about the treatment they received when they returned to Ireland.

The ROI might have been neutral but they remained hostile to the UK in our war against the Nazis.
I don't see any evidence for this and think they went as far as they could as a neutral country to help the UK. Quite prepared to debate this point.
By:
akabula
When: 29 Aug 19 18:15
So why did they feel the need to treat the survivors of the 70,000 in such a manner?
By:
Charlie
When: 29 Aug 19 18:16
I think that was more a historical ideology against the UK not a support for the Nazis.
By:
akabula
When: 29 Aug 19 18:34
I didn't accuse them of supporting the Nazis although, as an aside, the ira did.
But the problem the ROI had was the Germans bombing irish shipping and the possibility of an invasion.
In that respect they did aid the UK by allowing us access to irish airspace but the actions after the war were unforgiveable but as you suggest maybe done as an act of appeasement of the masses.
Still a shameful act though.
By:
Charlie
When: 29 Aug 19 18:38
Agree it was a shameful act.
I don't really want to push it but don't see how the Irish were hostile toward the UK during the war (as you said above).
By:
akabula
When: 29 Aug 19 19:16
As I said their actions against these people were a disgrace but why did they feel the need to do it?
As regards hostility during the war they were happy to hide behind the banner of neutrality until they needed our aid.
They refused to enter the war or at least support the UKs effort simply because of their attitude to the UK.
Hostile not by action but by inaction.
By:
Charlie
When: 29 Aug 19 19:48
I'm not sure all the Irish people that fought in the war were treated equally badly. I think it was the ones that left (deserted) the Irish army to fight for the British armed forces that were persecuted.

Ireland had been neutral since the 1930's and carried on throughout the war. There were political reasons why they didn't fully support the UK war effort but they did support us in many ways. If there is such a thing they were a neutral country biased toward the UK.
By:
akabula
When: 29 Aug 19 19:52
Sorry will respond after the football
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