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By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 12 Nov 18 20:26
Aye he told me he was suing The General Medical Council after his tea.

'Denzil sorry for all the bad blood it's that Crippen he's so annoying,anyway just in from work and have got the jacket spuds in the oven p.s do you use foil and/or microwave them first? let me know,got to dash got 4 slices in the toaster and can smell burning after that suing The GMC over the wrongful advice and medications,know you aren't that bad really humble gratitude for the advice,thanks STUDY'
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 12 Nov 18 20:26
PM from study ^^
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 12 Nov 18 20:33
Must admit it took me by surpise so I PM'd him back with about 50 links from Dr McDougall's website and about 10 Dr Fung videos also asked for his address so I can subscribe him to The McDougall Fan Club as a peace and goodwill gesture,heard nothing back must be still eating.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 12 Nov 18 20:35
Yeah, right. Nothing I'd say personally that I wouldn't say on here, Denzil.
So to avoid any misrepresentation, you can be very sure I haven't sent you a PM.

Crippen, you were misinformed, it was 5 loaves and 2 fishes. They send them automatically as it's Christmas.



(Chances of you understanding that; approximately 7%)
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 12 Nov 18 21:01
Must be another secret admirer.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 12 Nov 18 21:09
They send them automatically as it's Christmas.

STUDYPORN, the only thing you'll get sent from heaven is the gout.

Chances of you understanding that 0
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 12 Nov 18 21:11
Dr C have you not heard of the biblical diet 5 loaves and 2 fishes are standard not sure he'd take the fasting though?
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 12 Nov 18 21:23
Help his tablets to go down.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 12 Nov 18 21:31
Thought he'd started relying on prayer power.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 12 Nov 18 21:36
Well done for explaining it to him, denzil.

You've made me smile this evening, in a sort of childish way, like I've just been watching something extra silly on Tellytubbies.
(I know you're not tubby btw - it causes diabetes [in your world]).

Or perhaps it's the muppets.

Yes, that's it!
Statler and Waldorf.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 12 Nov 18 21:37
No...
I know what it is...


Beavis and Butthead
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 12 Nov 18 21:40
Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh so it's like the Teletubbies are the ones giving you the diet advice dude?
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 12 Nov 18 21:46
Statler and Waldorf.

One of them is his doctor.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 12 Nov 18 21:48
The other is his son.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 12 Nov 18 21:48
Not that STUDYPORN is getting on at all.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 12 Nov 18 22:20
You really don't understand humour, jokes, sarcasm or wit of any type do you crippen?
Which also explains why your posts are lacking in them all.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 12 Nov 18 22:47
It just comes naturally STUDY.

I can't help taking the p!ss out of you because you come across as such a berk all the time.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 14 Nov 18 21:43
Some nuts and seeds info only 10:30 long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GUOGZfFgLI
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 14 Nov 18 23:13
Dr Neal Barnard Foods for Protecting the Body & Mind,he gets into diabetes early.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnHYHjchn6w
By:
G Hall
When: 15 Nov 18 11:01
Studyform
I have been recently diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I notice from your posts that you are adamant that it can't be reversed. I have read a little bit on the subject and people like Mosely etc make an argument that it can be reversed without medication.

I am curious to know why you think it can't be reversed. I am willing to try anything to reverse it,I am currently on metaformin for the last ten days and don't want to be on meds for life.
By:
Dotchinite
When: 15 Nov 18 12:19
Hasnt Tom Watson reversed it.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 15 Nov 18 14:00

Nov 15, 2018 -- 11:01AM, G Hall wrote:


StudyformI have been recently diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I notice from your posts that you are adamant that it can't be reversed. I have read a little bit on the subject and people like Mosely etc make an argument that it can be reversed without medication.I am curious to know why you think it can't be reversed. I am willing to try anything to reverse it,I am currently on metaformin for the last ten days and don't want to be on meds for life.


Read and watch the links Dr C and I have posted I know it's time consuming,my video link from 11:13pm gets into it quickly.
I found the videos of Dr Jason Fung most helpful and easiest to understand have learned from his videos in the last fortnight even though I thought I had more of a clue than I did.
STUDYFORM is just following the traditional mainstream line which is trodden out he has friends and relatives that work in the field who are programmed to keep people on medications for as long as possible maybe without knowing but the results are the same.
STUDY will be able to answer for himself of course.

By:
Dr Crippen
When: 15 Nov 18 15:29
Thanks Denzil,

That's good video from Dr Barnard, who is another highly qualified medical doctor.
It's noticeable all these starch diet doctors are as slim as racing snakes.

If the first ten minutes aren't enough to get anyone interested in the starch based diet they'd better get used to taking their tablets.
And jabbing themselves with needles as their condition gets worse.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 15 Nov 18 15:30
Dr Joel Fuhrman is another doctor worth listening to haven't watched the video below but have seen others and read articles from his site,the thing with all of these guys is there message is supported by science and practical experience they are telling the truth relaying independent studies and not those sponsored by pharmaceutical companies or meat,sugar,fast food,dairy etc. corporations.
The problem we have is what we see in the mainstream has usually been sponsored or paid to be there by a particular sector which is all about making money prolonging illness and promoting drug/product use and not solving the causes of the illness in the first place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6DtLgedNPI
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 15 Nov 18 15:32
Aye Dr C it is he's another who explains things very well which is what's needed so people aren't in knots trying to work out what's going on.
By:
G Hall
When: 15 Nov 18 15:34
Cheers guys are all these docs you have mentioned singing off the same hymn sheet so to speak,I haven't managed to look at all of them yet,but I will.

I am anxious to beat this without lifetime medication.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 15 Nov 18 19:59
The vast majority of doctors are not saying this stuff.
Call it a mainstream line if you like.

I prefer to listen to a mass of qualified medical professionals who've devoted their working life to studying the disease, than to a FEW online quacks who are trying to make money by selling books and courses.

Some medication, G Hall, exists to do its job and isn't actually a trick.

This thread and its persistence by a diet fan, and a twerp who believes every conspiracy theory and evangelical online conman going needs to be looked into more thoroughly than merely watching the links these same conmen invent to sell their wares.

The reason this stuff isn't "mainstream" isn't that mainstream is rubbish, it's that telling you so helps spread their message better.
It's how all such things work.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 15 Nov 18 20:01
This thread and its persistence by a diet fan, and a twerp who believes every conspiracy theory and evangelical online conman going needs to be looked into more thoroughly than merely watching the links these same conmen invent to sell their wares.

The reason this stuff isn't "mainstream" isn't that mainstream is rubbish, it's that telling you so helps spread their message better.
It's how all such things work.


Thanks that tickled me.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 15 Nov 18 20:04
Obviously all the scientific data cited and proven means nothing to STUDYFORM.
By:
G Hall
When: 15 Nov 18 20:45
Thanks for the reply it is really difficult to know how to overcome this illness.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 15 Nov 18 20:52
The real stuff means loads.
Especially to me, as a diabetes sufferer.

Glad to be of service, btw, MischiefWink
By:
treetop
When: 15 Nov 18 20:55
The intelligent path would be to combine a diet plan while on the medication then if you have progress make a decision later,good luck
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 15 Nov 18 20:56

Nov 15, 2018 -- 8:45PM, G Hall wrote:


Thanks for the reply it is really difficult to know how to overcome this illness.


Stick in once you get started you'll see how easy it is,must admit I had plenty doubts myself but took the chance and aint looked back.Remember you'll keep picking things up along the way and find little niches that you can adapt to suit yourself but the basics stay the same.

By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 15 Nov 18 20:57

Nov 15, 2018 -- 8:55PM, treetop wrote:


The intelligent path would be to combine a diet plan while on the medication then if you have progress make a decision later,good luck


Not really it's the medications that are keeping people ill and not allowing them to use fat which means they can't reduce their insulin resistance.

By:
STUDYFORM
When: 15 Nov 18 21:07
It is, treetop. You're right. imo.
Believe it or not the "mainstream" doctors want to make us better. It's their job, they're not all idiots, and they're not all wrong in the face of overwhelming evidence from some American doctor/chancer who has some followers. They would rather patients weren't on medication for everyone's sake. It makes for less work and saves their budget.

Denzil, even if all the other stuff you've written or linked to had any grains of truth, I seriously don't believe that medications are made and prescribed which are known to keep people ill. And if your "superdocs" have discovered such a thing for real and no-one else but you and the other followers know about it, you should ask yourself why?
Such drugs would NOT be prescribed, if there was any truth in this assertion, or if there was so simple a solution as eating sugar (for example).
Think of the litigation ramifications apart from anything else.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 15 Nov 18 21:15
STUDY you couldn't be more wrong on this subject and it's sadly to your cost.
Please allow others with the illness the chance to do their own research which will give them a chance to practically prove whether it is correct or not,don't really know why you're against anyone attempting to help themselves rather than a life on medications which are proven not to work.
Living like society's who have no evidence of this disease or many others for that matter is set in stone not even you can argue with that,the human DNA hasn't changed for 1000s of years all that has is what we put into our mouths and there's more disease than ever.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 15 Nov 18 21:16
societies*
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 15 Nov 18 22:47
Dr Jason Fung 5 years ago touches on diabetes mediacations straight off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAwgdX5VxGc
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 16 Nov 18 20:01
STUDYFORM rarely fails to display his pig-ignorance when he posts, and does it again here at 15 Nov 18 19:59 by referring to highly qualified medical doctors as quacks.

But what makes him look even more pathetic, is that he seems to have forgotten he's the one who suffers appalling health
By:
G Hall
When: 16 Nov 18 23:21
Any opinions guys on the keto diet and Dr Moseley's 8 week blood sugar plan
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