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By:
STUDYFORM
When: 11 Nov 18 22:11
It (blood sugar numbers) may well drop if you lose a little weight (as long as you can afford to do so).
If not, then Metformin is the best treatment to keep it controlled.

Sweet stuff and the worst culprits for keeping the numbers high, include bread, pasta, crisps and potatoes.
Carbs turn to sugar in the body.

You still need carbs, just keep them lower, take the metformin and IF you're overweight, lose a little and hopefully the need for metformin will be gone.

It's only McDougall who's told you al medication is bad, it's how he spreads his word.

Anyone who's had antibiotics for an infection, or anti rejection drugs for a transplant, or pain killers for pain, might (rightly) say Medications are beneficial.

Metformin is a long term, life extending drug for those who need it.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 11 Nov 18 22:12
I'm saying, denzil, that they should ask experts; GPs Dieticians, other sufferers, endocrinologists.
And not just listen to you, crippen and an online quack.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 11 Nov 18 22:16
Two links about that prove diabetes can be reversed.

Tom Watson and Dr Michael Mosley.

Why doesn't STUDYFORM comment on them?

Which says it all about STUDYFROM. Medical qualifications mean nothing to him.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 11 Nov 18 22:18
They're not quacks are they? they're fully qualified medical doctors.

What are you STUDYFORM - something like a bricklayer I suppose?

Or a dustbin man.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 11 Nov 18 22:20
Dr Michael Mosley.
He's the one who does the BBC's medical programmes.

He's a quack according to STUDYFORM.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 11 Nov 18 22:24
STUDY you aren't doing these lads any favours by shackling them to a life on meds like yourself basically through ego and an inability to accept you've been sold down the river by your advisors.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 11 Nov 18 22:27
No, he's an average GP who makes TV programmes.

McDougall, who you have mentioned DOZENS of times, is the quack.

I never said it couldn't be reversed. I said it couldn't be reversed for everyone.
And your "advice" is BAD for at least 50% of diabetes sufferers.

You are not diabetic (I am), you are not remotely medically qualified (my partner IS, btw), you take notice of any old evangelist who tells you he's got the answer and "they're" all out to trick us and all pharmaceutical companies (who I have little time for) are "out to get you". You are always a sucker for a conspiracy theory.

McDougall is a con-man. You are preaching (mainly) his crap and chucking in some other names along the way to justify him.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 11 Nov 18 22:28
Now it all makes sense thanks.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 11 Nov 18 22:31
I am NOT advising anyone denzil.
I AM advising people to seek out as much advice as possible about THEIR OWN situation and to ignore advice on here, which MIGHT NOT be good for them.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 11 Nov 18 22:31
STUDYFORM's  medical diet

Statin sandwiches for breakfast.
Metformin soup for lunch
Beta-blockers and veg for dinner.

And humble pie for supper after getting his usual good hiding on here.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 11 Nov 18 22:33
You're a pig-headed idiot and a know all.

Go to bed.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 11 Nov 18 22:33
wrong about nearly everything, crippen. as always
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 11 Nov 18 22:35
Statins should be taken at night, btw.
They metabolise better over night.
But they're not necessarily prescribed for diabetes.
hth.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 11 Nov 18 22:38
But they're not necessarily prescribed for diabetes.

Statins are never prescribed for diabetes they're cholesterol blockers.

You're out of your depth.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 11 Nov 18 22:40
So, you're repeating what I more or less just said and saying I'm out of my depth.
You know nothing, crippen, about nearly everything.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 11 Nov 18 22:42
Statins, fyi, are multi-faceted and are given to many different preventative causes.
I've had enough of you for today. So you can continue alone now.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 11 Nov 18 22:44
Have you never tried Pomegranate juice?
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 11 Nov 18 22:45
Not necessarily suggests you're not sure.

Why mention statins along with diabetes in the first place?
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 11 Nov 18 22:47
Goodnight STUDYFORM, don't forget to take your tablets.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 11 Nov 18 22:49
He's a pig-headed dope isn't he?

He's completely disrupted this thread with his stupidity.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 11 Nov 18 22:51
No doubt this won't help the lads with the problem especially after showing signs of getting on board,hopefully they can see past the nonsense.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 11 Nov 18 22:53
Oh FFS!!!!!!!!

You 2 are claiming you have a cure for diabetes.
And you're calling me an idiot?!?!?!
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 11 Nov 18 22:55
Although he's come a long way from he previous stance when he said diabetes definitely can't be reversed.

No he's saying it can in his post at 22:11 after the ton of evidence we've been shoving under his nose.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 11 Nov 18 22:57
I thought you'd got to bed?

IF you're overweight, lose a little and hopefully the need for metformin will be gone.

And now:

You 2 are claiming you have a cure for diabetes.
And you're calling me an idiot?!?!?!


Look at that, he's all over the place.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 11 Nov 18 22:59
Two links about that prove diabetes can be reversed.

Tom Watson and Dr Michael Mosley.

Why doesn't STUDYFORM comment on them?

Which says it all about STUDYFROM. Medical qualifications mean nothing to him.



It seems he can't even read now.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 11 Nov 18 23:01
This might be the wrong time to bring up fasting for type2 reversal? Too naughty I think.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 11 Nov 18 23:04
Seen this Denzil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ekqq6DE8vGE

Dr Fung, he reckons to do it all the time through fasting.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 11 Nov 18 23:06
The testimonials below the video are impressive.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 11 Nov 18 23:07
Not that particular vid but have been watching some of his videos started mainly from the autophagy interest,I'm very impresses by this guy he's a hell of a speaker and is very easy to follow.
Currently I'm nearly 46 hours into a fast on the strength of Dr Fung top drawer imo.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 11 Nov 18 23:08
impressed*
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 11 Nov 18 23:09
This is the first vid I watched below,will catch up on the above one now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIuj-oMN-Fk
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 11 Nov 18 23:16
Crippen, the day you acknowledge all you read and stop trolling, I'll try a proper conversation with you.
I think, however, you're incapable.

This really is the last time...

DIABETES IS AN INCURABLE DISEASE - IT IS LARGELY HEREDITARY - FOR MANY LATE ONSET SUFFERERS THE CONDITION MAY BE REVERSIBLE - THERE ARE PLENTY OF NOT OVERWEIGHT PEOPLE - WITH THE DISEASE FOR WHOM THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE - YOUR POSTING OF LINKS BY QUACKS IS BOOLOX - ANYONE WHO WANTS GOOD ADVICE ABOUT WHAT THEIR OWN SITUATION IS SHOULD SPEAK TO REAL EXPERTS - YOU ARE NOT EVEN UP TO CLOWN LEVEL AND YOU BELIEVE ANY OLD SHOITE YOU READ FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE MAKING STUFF UP - YOU ARE NOT QUALIFIED IN ANYTHING - YOU DO NOT EVEN HAVE DIABETES - FOR MOST SUFFERERS THERE IS NO CURE, JUST CONTROL - WHERE NECESSARY TABLETS OR INSULIN PROVIDE ASSISTANCE WITH THE CONTROL.

MOST PEOPLE ONLY TAKING NOTICE OF THE STUFF YOU AND DENZIL ARE WRITING WILL BE ENDANGERING THEIR LIVES.

I CANNOT MAKE IT ANY CLEARER.

THIS IS SIMILAR TO THE MANY ARGUMENTS YOU HAD WITH MANY PEOPLE ABOUT MAN GOING TO THE MOON, WHICH YOU HAVE NOT SAID ANYTHING ABOUT ON THIS THREAD (DESPITE MY SEVERAL MENTIONS), PROBABLY BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT SHOWS WHAT A BERK YOU ARE.

DENZIL IS HOOKED ON DIET AND STUFF TO DO WITH DIETING AND MUCH OF THIS STUFF IS SPURIOUS IN ITS ORIGIN.

I WOULD IMPLORE ANYONE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR HEALTH TO GET PROPER ADVICE FROM PROPER EXPERTS
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 11 Nov 18 23:21
STUDY you need educating on diet,health and lifestyle if you REALLY think what I put on here is spurious in it's origin.

Dr C that's a shortened measured version of a few things that's in some of his videos but he makes the points well,I also think a healthy plant based keto will work to keep insulin low but avoiding meat and dairy is essential for me.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 11 Nov 18 23:22
*still essential
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 11 Nov 18 23:32
Thank God for the Internet.

I for one wouldn't be aware of any of this without the WWW.

I'd be at the mercy of the GPs with their beads and rattles and outdated drug therapies.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 11 Nov 18 23:39
None of what you posted months ago had even crossed my mind as being beneficial to health the mainstream and 'Bro' science has spread far and wide so I was another caught in the trap,cheers again hopefully readers will follow or at least find out for themselves.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 12 Nov 18 02:15
This is a long one very educational and well explained.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXXGxoNFag4
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 12 Nov 18 02:39
He even explains one of the reasons why the potato diet works.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 12 Nov 18 03:01
STUDY you'll be pi$$ing bullets if you watch this,this guy's a quack con man of the highest order.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 12 Nov 18 20:03
My mate at Tesco, says STUDYFORM's just ordered a bag of spuds and three loaves of bread to be delivered, and cancelled the Christmas turkey.
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