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By:
Dr Crippen
When: 27 Dec 18 17:21
STUDYFORM is a very rude person.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 27 Dec 18 17:31
Seriously crippen?

4 days this time!!!!
and then you do your raising it to the top thing. Each time making yourself look even more pathetic.
You have real issues.

As for rudeness, you must encounter loads of it, apart that is, from the masses of rudeness you dole out, but then - as with the rest of your trolling, you won't acknowledge it.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 03 Jan 19 19:29
To the top just for STUDYFORM.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 03 Jan 19 19:54
Don't be silly eat Greens and Bean Chilli
This tasty bait will help you lose weight
Melting the fat away keeping type 2 at bay
Meaning less trips to the quacks
Who blame illness on snacks
No regards for the patient
Their ignorance is blatant
Causing a meds epidemic
Completely systemic
Respect they receive
For enabling disease
Is killing them younger
Why? we should wonder
Look after ourselves
Control our own healths
Not caught in the vice
Of a system not right
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 03 Jan 19 21:40
Did you make that up, Denzil?
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 03 Jan 19 21:50
Of course that's what boredom can do.
How you keeping MD have you got ontop of the food conundrum?
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 03 Jan 19 21:55
I’m ok, thanks Denzil. Well, I’m back to eating much the same as I have been these last few years. I suited me fine.

It was fun experimenting though. I’ve been reading this read with great interest.
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 03 Jan 19 21:56
Well done with the poem, btw.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 03 Jan 19 22:10
Good to hear that agree the experimenting is fun and makes it more doable and also sustainable,there's some good stuff on the 2 diabetes threads obviously not everything suits everyone but the basics hold firm.
Have tried fasting after learning about Autophagy which was easier than imagined with the help of electrolytes and lemon water which broke a plateau,plenty more experiments to come over the next year best wishes for 2019.
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 03 Jan 19 22:55
Best wishes to you too, Denzil.
By:
lfc1971
When: 03 Jan 19 23:19
That lovely things exist , like Makybe _ Diva
is a lovely thought .
By:
Culvin
When: 04 Jan 19 01:33
LEAVE HER ALONE ,you . That bitch is mine . Mischief
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 04 Jan 19 11:06
Good stuff from Denzil, here's a quick guide to the benefits of Autophagy and fasting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10jNZleNH9w

Just why we aren't educated to know these things beats me.

Do GPs know any of this stuff is the question I'd like to put?
Or are they simply there to dole out drugs after we get sick through ignorance?
By:
Culvin
When: 04 Jan 19 11:51
AUTOPHAGY , that's a very interesting word .
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 04 Jan 19 15:59
It's people who eat cars.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 04 Jan 19 21:18
Well that's a big word for STUDYFORM to digest on an full stomach.
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 16 Feb 19 18:47
Interesting article on Autophagy
.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-44005092

I didn’t look into this at the time it was talked about on here but a friend mentioned it today, so I’m going to do some research.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 16 Feb 19 19:27
The idea that we must have a constant supply of food in order to be healthy completely wrong

In fact when we go without food our senses sharpen, which is why many students fast before an exam.

When we were primitives we had to eat when we could. If going without food for days on end weakened us we wouldn't survive.
So nature designed us to store fat and then burn it as needed, and when we entered this fat burning stage we become sharper and more able to find food. 

The health benefits of fasting have been brushed aside or ignored by modern health practitioners who can't see any further than drugs.

Yet when one is ill, the first thing the body does is to kill the appetite in order to enter this elf healing state. And your body knows best.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 16 Feb 19 19:29
elf healing state

And normal people as well.
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 16 Feb 19 23:49
Grin
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Feb 19 11:55
Nearly everyone who eats a balanced diet will struggle to keep down their weight - fact.

And we must remember there is big money (the food industry) behind ensuring that most of us remain in this over nourished state.
The fatter we are the fatter their profits.

And the more pills we take, the fatter the profits of the pharmaceuticals who have the NHS in their grips.
The appalling health suffered in rich countries like ours, is due to over nourishment and inappropriate diets eaten by the majority.

There are no profits for the food industry in people eating less food..
And their are no profits for the drug companies in getting us healthier either.

The food industry keeps us ill, while the drug companies keep us alive.
I reckon they've got a pretty good business model between them.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 17 Feb 19 12:01
Yawn
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Feb 19 12:03
End of thread.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 10 May 19 21:39
STUDY have you not tried the sugar diet yet?
Percival Himsworth published results in the 1920s/30s that pure white refined sugar including table sugar increases insulin sensitivity and fats paralyse insulin cells causing insulin resistance.
Jim Brunzell 1978 New England Journal of Medicine took patients with type 2 and gave them a diet 85% white sugar and reversed their condition.
Walter Kempner back in the 40s/50s published his results curing type 2 diabetics with white rice,table sugar,fruit and fruit juice,Kempner also reversed conditions such as heart disease,atherosclerosois and arthritis plus some amazing weight loss results on very obese people.
These guys aren't on the internet looking for mugs to give them money give it a go you won't be disappointed.
After a holiday and relaxed period on health and diet I gained weight so changed to the sugar diet with starches and veg and after 3 days was 6 pounds lighter,it works give it a go you'll be off your meds by Royal Ascot.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 10 May 19 21:46
Denzil.

I take no meds and I really don't want to go over all this again, not least because it might encourage the pitiful Crippen to start trolling again, it's been a better place without it.

I accept fully that weight loss reduces the impact of (type 2) diabetes. In fact my own blood count was made better when I dropped a stone, not too long ago.
However, I'm not prepared to increase my sugar intake until the experts I see on the subject (who sell me nothing btw), agree with you.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 10 May 19 21:48
I have been diagnosed with type 3 diabetes...

It must be the cushiest disease going, I don't suffer any pain or loss of function

so is there such a disease?


The trouble is our National Health Service is bankrupting us..

We cannot really afford patients to go in to Hospital anymore...it is too expensive

Diabetes 2 has been created to attempt to get people to treat their own health...and save the NHS money...imo?


It is what I think...I have totally ignored all dietary advice since they diagnosed me with Diabetes 2....

although I do take my meds, no great imposition on me there... do a bit of exercise now and again as well
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 10 May 19 21:48
type 2 not 3
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 10 May 19 21:50
just my opinion of course
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 10 May 19 21:53
It develops mortally dangerous illnesses over time REGY drop the fat and get it sorted these meds are no good.
STUDY fair enough wanted to offer a contribution on my return to the forum.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 10 May 19 21:59
It IS worth noting, Ebul, that the figures (qualification for being diabetic) were changed a year or so back, making more people diabetic or at least "Pre-diabetic" as a means to induce healthier eating by NICE/NHS. You'll have to believe me when I say it's worked (It affects my job).
Like so much else, it makes for easy journalism.

I hadn't realised you'd copped a ban, Denzil, I assumed you'd just got a bit cheesed off (if I can say Cheese on this thread).
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 10 May 19 22:02
Took a break bit holiday,work,easy living etc. no ban nobody cares enough about what I post to get me banned.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 10 May 19 22:05
I wouldn't say that mate, (sniffs, wipes a little tear).
If you tried hard enough, there are certainly enough idiots there to try to enforce one on you.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 10 May 19 22:12
I'm not worth it have no previous form or forum friends and no strong views that aren't based on truth,the arguments on here tend to be around not accepting truths that don't suit an agenda or political viewpoint.
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 10 May 19 22:17
I agree. I often argue with steadfast political views, mostly because they are unreasonably entrenched, or without thought or consideration, but that is just taken as opposition!

I would say though, that one persons truth is another person's BS - so, for me, it needs to be quite widely backed/researched before being accepted.

And with that, the truth is, I'm going to bed... up early for work tomorrow.
By:
Racingqueen
When: 11 May 19 15:40
Visited a friend in hospital last year who was in with heart problem. the other 7 people in the ward were all in for diabetes.

Doc checking them out came in with 3 bottles of fizzy drinks, bag of sweets and crisps for himself  and weighed twice what he should...
By:
STUDYFORM
When: 11 May 19 19:15
Plenty of slim, fit, healthy people, who eat properly, still are diabetic.

This fact is often lost in the media/NHS driven desire to pretend it's self-inflicted.

Equally, plenty of fat, otherwise unhealthy, unsensible ones, never develop it.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 11 May 19 19:32
Not going over old ground for the hows and whys the illness is developed will say that the advices given from the NHS and mainstream are not conducive for prevention only serving to attempt to treat symptoms and assign easy (and plausible to the uneducated) blame.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 11 May 19 19:34
What the health is an interesting Netflix documentary which scratches the surface of some of the sharp practices we are all up against,the science on the programme when quoted by physicians can be found also.
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