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Fasting Diet (cont)
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Beer is non-negotiable, Crippen.
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Speaking to a friend the other day who suffers with diabetes. He said he'd love to lose three stone.
It isn't going to happen because he's in the grip of his doctor who told him the way to lose weight is to reduce carbs. So the doctor gives him medication which makes him hungry all the time, then tells him to eat smaller amounts of foods that would at least fill him up and are not the main cause of his being overweight. If he reduces his carb intake, he's going to step up on fat and protein eventually, which will increase his weight more and make his diabetes worse. So where's the advice to reduce fat and protein? Anyone who's about to contemplate ditching the carbs and eating fat and protein instead will do well to read all of this in the link below. https://www.drmcdougall.com/health/education/health-science/featured-articles/articles/high-protein-diets/ |
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A search of any food/diets and you'll find someone somewhere saying it's bad for you. I feel I've finally found something that works for me. I've lost 4 stone and never felt better. I never feel hungry and am confident I can continue this forever.Eating fresh food as opposed to processed can only be a good thing.
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Another point my diabetes is totally under control on this diet so it's hard to convince me I should change.
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Losing four stone alone would help your diabetes no end bigmo.
I take it you still take medicine for your diabetes? |
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All this eat this don't eat that its a wonder anyone survived before all this info...quite remarkable.
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Some people must enjoy shooting insulin into themselves two or three times day with a needle.
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Obviously
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Yes I still take medicine for my diabetes Dr Crippen. Perhaps I should have mentioned I try to limit myself to 120 carbs per day.
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Very good bigmo, you can congratulate yourself on taking your health seriously.
To support what I'm saying about the link between diabetes and fatty diets, I've put a link here to a simple four minute video from a Dr Greger. He was the doctor responsible for a centre page spread on health in the Daily Mail a few months ago. It should be of interest to anyone who suffers with diabetes, its based on quoted studies which can all be checked. It should also be of interest to people who don't want to get diabetes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB_ycbASYaU |
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Thanks Dr Crippen I'll check it out. I don't actually have that much fat in my diet thankfully.
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I love fat especially, pork, delicious..couldn't give that up.
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That's splendid, I urge you in particular to eat the stuff in abundance.
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Even what many people regard as low fat diets can still contain significant amounts of fat.
Fish is high in fat for instance. |
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As long as its Omega 3 fat, thats good news, Dt C. No ?
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Omega 3 is supposed to be good for us Platini. Some say the ratio of omega 3 to omega 6 is more important.
Fish is full of fat and it's not all Omega 3. Omega 3 supplements are cheap if you're worried. And flax seeds sprinkled on your morning oats is another good source of the oil. I prefer not to put rubbish into my arteries in the first place. |
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All high purine products like meat and fish raise levels of uric acid in the blood.
Most people's kidneys are efficient at removing it from the body. Some people aren't so good at getting rid of it, and the levels of uric acid in their bodies tend to rise which can lead to gout. All people who suffer from gout know that. What they don't tell us is that higher levels of uric acid inhibits an enzyme that regulates blood pressure. Here's how uric acid is implicated in hypertension: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckN6WM6MeJI 59minutes and 10 seconds in. I'll bet those who take tablets to regulate high blood pressure were never told that by their GP. |
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what puts me off the supplements is the vile taste, I haven't tried any of them but I remember what cod liver oil taste like
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They come in capsule form these days you just swallow them whole.
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might give them a go, since I can't stand most of the so-called super healthy fish (salmon, mackerel, sardines)
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These people are okay:
http://www.troohealthcare.com/p-360-omega-3-fish-oils-1000mg-90-capsules.aspx |
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I haven't ate any Mackerel or the like since changing diet only white fish or tinned Tuna after reading about the connection between further cancer spread in the recovery of patients,I might go ahead with a good Omega 3 supplement as I currently ingest very little though I ingest very little fat on the whole now.
https://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2002nl/jun/healthmythsomega3goodfats.htm |
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I hadn't seen that Denzil.
Thanks for drawing our attention to it. So Omega 3 is not so good after all. Dr McDougall tells us not to take any supplements for similar reasons, with the exception of B12. And if you drink soya milk that's added anyway along with the sun vitamin D. |
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I take the supplements you alluded to on another thread which was a great article (have deleted the bookmark now) Folic Acid,B6 and B12 also take ZMA and Vitamin D if I haven't been in the sun.
I take the B6 and Vit D early in the day and the rest at night to avoid the relevant clashes but can honestly say this way of life works for me and the allergies still haven't surfaced. |
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That's brilliant about the allergies disappearing Denzil.
Same here. The starch based diet is easy to stick to as well, and you can eat your fill every meal. McDougall blames the allergy causing leaky gut on animal products. Perhaps it's the acid required to digest meat that is the culprit? People who suffer from chronic fatigue syndrome would also do well to try cutting out the meat and fish for a week or so to see what happens. |
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so much contradicting health and medical advice going around, it can drive you bonkers.
 lets just keep it simple. 1. for about 99% of mankind's time on earth, we didn't have an obesity problem - whats happened since is processed food. Solution : avoid processed food. 2. the longest living people on the planet are from the Far East - they eat a lot of fish and vegetables - Solution : eat much more fish and vegetables |
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There's only a few years in it between the top 20 life expectancy countries Platini.
Doctors are quite good at keeping people alive. I agree the advice to avoid processed food is sound. But if you want to stack the odds in your favour towards enjoying a healthy retirement, I'd look a lot deeper than simply eating more fish and veg. Quality of life is important as well. |
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for sure
a bit fat private pension helps  |
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This is a very interesting thread.
I've just looked at Denzil's link. This Omega 3 thing is a bit worrying. I eat Salmon once or twice a week for the Omega 3. |
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I've decided I'm not eating salmon again. I will eat more walnuts for my Omega 3.
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Interesting article Denzil.
I would take issue with the doctor's advice on trying to get cancer patients to lose weight. if you have terminal cancer, the last thing you need is to be put on a diet. you might live a tiny bit longer, but you're taking away probably the only pleasure you have left in life |
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This article is interesting regarding fats
https://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2007nl/aug/oils.htm |
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Thanks, Denzil. I'll have a read of that.
Is this the same person that wrote The Starch Solution? I've got that book but never got round to reading it. |
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Dr C put me onto a video from this guy regarding the Dairy Industry and another about Casein being carcinogenic that opened my eyes,I've just googled it and it is him he's mentioned in Dr C 14:11 post.
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Oh right, thanks.
I have a very scary article on milk and casein. I read it ages ago. I have drank much less milk since. About two or three pints a week at the most, if that. I'll try and find it. |
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I used to drink lots of full fat and switching to double cream mixed with whey if on keto as well as cheese.
I used to think I was being healthy with my organic dairy to go with all my other natural stuff like organic eggs,steak etc used to spend top dollar at a local farm shop in keto periods,did consume all veg and berries on keto too not more than 50g of carbs total,but really I was full of expensive carcinogens instead of cheaper ones. |
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How could I forget the butter for my cheese and bacon omelettes
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Cream in coffee instead of milk
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I can't find the article I mentioned. There was a whole series of them about various things.
They were by a guy called Yuri Elkaim. Lots of his stuff on the internet. I was on a sort of keto diet for a while. I thought that Dr Atkins had been right all along. But now I'm not so sure. I've been thinking of becoming vegan Or at least eating a mostly plant based diet. I do like a Sunday roast tho', and I love eggs. They would be hard to cut out. I might find The Starch Solution and give it a read. I don't eat much bread. Does he think bread is ok? Confused.com  |
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You could maybe try a mostly starch and plant based diet and keep your Sunday Roast and have the odd egg meal as a treat,not sure what Dr McDougall's full programme is but there is a part on his site where he gives guidelines on what to eat and not and consumption amount guidelines the link is below,try the right hand side below steps to recovery?
https://www.drmcdougall.com/health/education/free-mcdougall-program/ |