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By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 30 Jun 18 16:37
Right.  I would suggest weighing yourself once a week, cos otherwise, it  probably depends on where you are on your 5:2....
By:
pixie
When: 30 Jun 18 16:40
Yeh, but weighing yourself in the morning is the best and only good part of the diet. Depriving myself of the satisfaction of finding out I've lost another pound or two would be counter productive, I reckon.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 01 Jul 18 11:16
Glancing through a mail order catalogue that came through the post some trousers caught my eye.
Looking at the sizes I noticed that the smallest waist measurement in all the ones I looked at was 32''.

So the cheap end of the tailoring market for middle aged people has stopped catering for people who aren't fat?
Looks like it to me.  The new normal is now to be overweight.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 04 Jul 18 00:28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOj4rzSkqok

This is a MUST WATCH definitely worth taking the time.
By:
Mr.Anderson
When: 04 Jul 18 09:02

Jul 1, 2018 -- 11:16AM, Dr Crippen wrote:


Glancing through a mail order catalogue that came through the post some trousers caught my eye.Looking at the sizes I noticed that the smallest waist measurement in all the ones I looked at was 32''. So the cheap end of the tailoring market for middle aged people has stopped catering for people who aren't fat?Looks like it to me.  The new normal is now to be overweight.


In the town where I live it's very common that 32" waist is the smallest size. One shop sometimes has 31" in some models. My size is 30" Sad So I have to order my trousers on the internet (the 21st century version of mail order). My BMI is 18.75, which is supposed to be "normal", but it's very rare among middle aged men in the western world. A BMI of 40+ is more common, which is "very severly obese" Sad

BMI 18.5-20 "normal" healthy weight, but in some parts of the world so rare that you might have a hard time finding trousers that fit you
BMI 20-25    normal  healthy weight, and you'll probably not have too much trouble finding trousers that fit you
BMI 25-40   finding trousers that fit you should be very easy

By:
Mr.Anderson
When: 04 Jul 18 09:23
If I doubled my weight I would probably have an easier time finding clothes that fit me! Going for a jog now Happy (I'm pretty much built like a marathon runner.)
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 04 Jul 18 11:00
We know that fat people are unhealthy.
But there's more to healthy weight than a BMI within the normal range.   

Many people who do not appear fat, can have plenty of fat around their organs which puts them at greater risk than people who are well overweight, but carry their fat on the outside with little around the vital organs.
Which explains why slim people still get heart disease, diabetes and other stuff.
It depends on what they eat.

The culprits for this serious internal fat can be alcohol and fructose according to this informative video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckN6WM6MeJI
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 04 Jul 18 11:04
At the beginning of the video there's a bit about why the Akins diet works and why the opposite diet called the Japanese diet also works.
It's because they both eliminate sugar.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 04 Jul 18 14:11
Yet our rich Western society advocates the only things that don't work and force us into disease.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 04 Jul 18 15:57
Copy Dr McDougall and you can't miss.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 04 Jul 18 18:22
He includes more fats than Dr McDougall who's philosphy is starch based the similarities between low protein,low fat,no meat and dairy are key to all,avoid the Western diet and we'll be fine.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 04 Jul 18 18:40
I just look at the stuff online there is an unholy amount as you click on one thing you get links to more and more just go to the McDougall site or search him on YouTube.
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 04 Jul 18 19:28
This looks good, Fozzybear.
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/Healthiest-Diet-Planet-Love-Pizza-Preventing/dp/0062426761/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1530728729&sr=8-5&keywords=mcdougall+cookbook
By:
betting_masta
When: 04 Jul 18 22:16

Jul 4, 2018 -- 3:34PM, fozzybear wrote:


Ideally, I need to shift a stone and a half. I've been treating myself to too many Madras's from Just Eat lately as well as getting addicted to cheese with garlic and chives!  What would you recommend? I'm thinking of doing a week of:3 weetabix and raw porridge oats.2 apples.250g FAGE 0% Greek yoghurt.I've already cut out sugar.


exercise.

By:
TheBaron
When: 05 Jul 18 10:05
Deny yourself nothing, its not what you eat its the amount, eating off smaller plates and bowls tricks your brain into thinking you're eating more than you are.  Same with drinks.  Keep processed food to a minimum.  Never buy anything that says low fat.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 05 Jul 18 10:51
3 weetabix and raw porridge oats.2 apples.250g FAGE 0% Greek yoghurt.

Good, but cut out the yogurt.

When we eat, the carbs are turned to glycogen which is stored in the liver and used during the day.
Any fat in the meal is turned into body fat where it stays until we run out of glycogen.
Usually sometime during the night, or never in the case of others who eat late.

We don't burn body fat and carbs at the same time.

If we exercise we have to use up our store of glycogen before any fat burning can take place. 
That's why people fail to lose weight through exercise alone.
30% of fructose is turned to fat and the worst kind.

So the best way to lose weight and the healthiest as well, is not to cut down on carbs, but to stop adding to body fat through eating dietary fats and sugar.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 05 Jul 18 11:08
The first step to losing weight is to get rid of your insatiable appetite which is caused through cravings for sugar.

Cut out the sugar by way of cakes biscuits ice cream and everything else with added sugar and you're almost there. You've also taken out plenty of fat as well doing that.

Alcohol and sugar are closely linked so beware of alcohol.
By:
lmfao
When: 05 Jul 18 11:34
The best way to lose weight is to reduce calories intake- and the best way to do that is to reduce appetite and then only eat when hungry - and the best way to do that is to eat nothing but pure fats

some protein and greens.

i'm doing this now:

Yesterday 5 eggs in butter at 10pm - fresh garden  mint in an omelette works for me ! Vitamin pill with food.

My next meal might be tonight , might not - cheese with a slice of butter or salted dripping

My next sugar intake will be a piece of wedding cake in few weeks time.
No exercise .
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 05 Jul 18 11:38
I fail to comprehend people supposedly on a diet who will 'snack' between meals.

The petrol station lists 'Snacking' as a range of products they sell.

Don't people have any willpower?

I dont think exercise as such is that important.  Just remain fairly active and not sedentary.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 05 Jul 18 11:57
I agree with that imfoa, except I'd have written the quickest way without fasting not the best way.

The best way in my suggestion was intended for life.
I wouldn't recommend sticking to a high fat diet for too long after the weight has come off.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 05 Jul 18 12:00
Jack, I believe snacking between meals is caused through cravings for sugar.

Which is the main stumbling block for any diet that includes sugar.
By:
lmfao
When: 05 Jul 18 12:39
Dr C

I think we concur !
Cool
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 05 Jul 18 14:57
https://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2010nl/jun/sugar.htm
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 05 Jul 18 16:33
In attempting weight loss under any dietary regime, cutting back on added sugar is a major step.

30% of fructose goes straight into making body fat, you can take on hundreds of calories per day from simply drinking fruit juices with added sugar. Most processed food comes with loads of added sugar.
These calories do nothing to curb our appetites, taking sugar in this way is simply adding fat.

What Dr McDougall proposes in his newsletter from the link supplied by Denzil above falls far short of shovelling down the sugar as most people do.   
But his newsletter is not about losing weight.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 07 Jul 18 13:46
The way Dr McDougall lays into the animal foods industry for playing down the harmful effects on our bodies from consuming animal products should startle everyone. And he's far from alone with his opinions.

The idea that consuming foods which contain a lot of protein is good for us is completely unfounded, and the opposite is the proven case.
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 07 Jul 18 14:25
Indeed,we have all been lied to and forced into premature illness and death with unimaginable life saving/changing implications completely avoidable for humanity as proven by the living corpses Walter Kempner cured in the 40's.
By:
TheBaron
When: 10 Jul 18 16:08
It must be true...I read it on the internet!
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