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By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 21 Apr 18 23:33
This fred will slowly die, unless someone answers the question.

Porcupine & mr e are typical of the left, THEY see something that may contain a race, they attack without doing any research on the matter. It was clerical error aided by the last labour government.

I am missing Studyform as he would be melting over all of this, hopefully we can see it soon.
By:
northanlite
When: 21 Apr 18 23:54
treat others as you would expect to be treated. i can only imagine the outrage when they start deporting the
British from wherever.
Have you ever noticed the British overseas are not immigrants, they luxuriate in the term expatriate.
I think we should focus on the ex
By:
akabula
When: 22 Apr 18 00:51
The term 'expatriate' applies to anyone living outwith their native country.

For those directly affected by this then compensation will be paid. I don't think many will disagree with that but I saw one woman claiming it had caused her anxiety (nothing actually happened to her) and said that"Compensation would be nice, it would help me".
Kerching for some.
By:
northanlite
When: 22 Apr 18 00:55
so we can now call all foreign people expatriates unless they are citizens then we can stick to that,
problem solved. Thanks akbula
By:
Blades
When: 23 Apr 18 13:54
What has the government done wrong? As far as I know noone has been deported.....it's a clerical issue that everone is working hard on to resolve.
Has anyone been deported / imprisoned etc??
By:
saddo
When: 23 Apr 18 15:21
northanlite, I think an expatriate is generally someone who arrives with enough money to look after themselves. Immigrants generally tend to want looking after.
By:
northanlite
When: 23 Apr 18 15:32
i think the only real difference is immigrants intend to stay, expats are temporary. If that definition is right then a lot of the
eastern Europeans that came to work here were incorrectly referred to as immigrants as they intended to return home.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 23 Apr 18 16:41
Storm in a teacup.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 23 Apr 18 17:01
Time limited work permits with no right to the free NHS, Housing benefits, free education etc is the answer.

Having said that if people were told something different we cannot go back on it now.

Going forward big changes are needed. Other countries do very well with a permit system. People can live for generations in places like Switzerland without citizenship. We give it away too easily.
By:
donny osmond
When: 23 Apr 18 17:13
so if a foreign worker becomes ill we just leave them to it?

surely these future work permits will see taxes paid and health care provided,
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 23 Apr 18 17:17
Most countries you have to have health insurance to get the work permit.

Why should we give free healthcare to someone from outside the country?
By:
donny osmond
When: 23 Apr 18 17:19
because they would be subject to uk taxes, if on minimum wage they could not
afford health insurance, unless you forced the employer to provide it.

i doubt the tories would vote for that
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 23 Apr 18 17:23
If you go to work in Saudi or USA or Australia or Dubai etc you don't expect free healthcare.
By:
donny osmond
When: 23 Apr 18 17:25
i wouldnt expect to go there and earn peanuts

average uk health insurance is £30 a week for a decent policy

no idea how much non brits get charged
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 23 Apr 18 17:32
It is all part of the cost of coming here to work.

Companies getting people here on min wage and expecting the rest of us to pick up the bill for tax credits, healthcare, education, housing etc are milking the middle class tax payers.

We are far to soft.
By:
donny osmond
When: 23 Apr 18 17:36
its all part of our tax system

i agree folk should be paid by their employer and not the state

but when the health service is funded by taxation and imported labour is paying tax, then we should supply healthcare
for them

if you go to usa then there is no national health service so you need insurance, your taxes would not be paying for it
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 23 Apr 18 17:47
Health care is part paid for by taxes paid by those earning over about £40k a year.

It is part paid for by the accumulation of healthcare assets over the generations.

It is part paid for by increasing the national debt.

It is definitely not paid for by low paid workers who have just arrived here.
By:
donny osmond
When: 23 Apr 18 17:52
its part paid by them paying next to nowt too

you are just unrealistic in your outlook

maybe you are serious, maybe its to impress others, who knows
By:
donny osmond
When: 23 Apr 18 17:57
the treatment of windrush migrants has been shameful

they must have thought they would be an easy target and the abuse of them
would go down well with some voters.

probably correct judging by some of the horrid comments on here
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 23 Apr 18 18:01
I agree. We should stand by what we offered historically. They are British. That is how the system worked back then.

I don't think anyone is debating that.

But going forward we need a more sustainable policy.
By:
donny osmond
When: 23 Apr 18 18:06
it is sustainable to fund health care by taxation

no privatisation by the back door
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 23 Apr 18 18:07
If people do not pay you end up with people over using the NHS.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 23 Apr 18 18:14
Then you ensure everyone pays their fair share so that it is free at point of care. Otherwise, it becomes less a right and more a privilege.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 23 Apr 18 18:17
Almost four in ten (38 per cent) of these self-treatable casualty visits were for a sprain, 17 per cent flu, 13 per cent colic, and 13 per cent an insect bite.

Over £2.4bn is year is wasted on unnecessary drugs and treatments.

In Wales alone there are 30,000 unnecessary ambulance call outs a year.

The list goes on.

Once you make something free people abuse it.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 23 Apr 18 18:19
That is 38% of GP appointments are unnecessary.

£1bn a year is wasted on missed GP appointments. (10 million appointments missed)
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 23 Apr 18 18:21
300,000 outpatient appointments are missed a year in Wales alone.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 23 Apr 18 18:21
About 11% of outpatient appointments are no shows.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 23 Apr 18 18:24
£400m a year is spent on IVF.
By:
jamesdean
When: 23 Apr 18 18:52
Lets just hope that all affected by this idiotic blunder get all the compensation they truly deserve.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 23 Apr 18 20:16
Watch the stampede for compensation if anyone manages to get any which I doubt.

This immigration gets better, suing the country for damages that kept them for decades.

It's called biting the hand that feeds you.
By:
flushgordon1
When: 23 Apr 18 20:24
If they take back lenny henry and Abbott ,then discuss compensation.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 23 Apr 18 20:27
It's called biting the hand that feeds you.


It's really not. It's called being locked in detention centres, losing your jobs, losing access to health care, being threatened with being separated from the rest of your family and forcibly repatriated to a country you've never lived in before, being treated without a shred of dignity of empathy or frankly any capability.
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 Apr 18 20:45
anyone who is legally here will not be deported, it is a fairly simple task for anyone to prove that they arrived in Britain before 1971 and were here legally
ok it may take a little time, but people should be helpful especially when we look at the problems this country faces with illegal immigration
By:
lfc1971
When: 23 Apr 18 20:46
some people might not give too hoots about people being here illegally
that's not good
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 23 Apr 18 20:48
PP's breaking my heart.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 23 Apr 18 20:49
It's called blowing things completely out of all proportion in an effort to milk the system.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 23 Apr 18 20:53
Again, no it's not. It's called being an absolute tripe hound who's only reasoning is whether something fits his pre-conceived agenda and allows him to either attack the left, defend the right, or group all "immigrants" together and denigrate them.
By:
donny osmond
When: 23 Apr 18 20:54
nothing could blow this disgrace out of proportion
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 23 Apr 18 20:58
It's already been blown out of all proportion.
By:
donny osmond
When: 23 Apr 18 21:01
you aint seen nothin yet
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