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By:
akabula
When: 22 Sep 16 23:02
If the cop had been in the wrong he would have been suspended.
He did lose it though and no doubt will be put on an anger management course or similar.

Problem nowadays is the net and the halfwits who give advice on how to deal with the police, always hate driven.
There's one guy got a site dedicated to him filming police whenever he sees them.
When asked why he responds I'm allowed to and quotes some law before running back to download his latest 'victory' online.

By locking himself in the driver has forced the police into action. Serves him right what happened.
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 22 Sep 16 23:04
Enoch was right.

That's the bottom line
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 22 Sep 16 23:11
I think the Copper showed inexperience & also panicked as in what or how he
was actually allowed to go about/deal with it. (in out becoming a joke of a country)

Rons law would be batten the opposite side window through, drag the mouthy ****
out & lay him face down with you boot firmly on his neck pushing his face into
the tarmac, all though not to cause to much harm at this stage. (maybe just minor cuts)

Cuff the **** , & get him off to the station for questioning.

I dare say the above would be similar to messing with the USA Cops
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 22 Sep 16 23:13
If the cop had been in the wrong he would have been suspended.

Don't think the investigation has been completed yet.
By:
akabula
When: 22 Sep 16 23:23
Would be normal to suspend if any doubt. Police statement categorically stated he wasn't suspended but assigned to other duties.
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 22 Sep 16 23:25
The thing is you can't win because if i decided to join them &
paint my face black id still be seen/classed as a racist! Cry
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 22 Sep 16 23:35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw4vMZDItQo
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 22 Sep 16 23:38
Surely won't be the police carrying out the investigation though. I would imagine he will have received what is the usual course of action when a complaint gets made then the investigtion is carried out by the Police complaint commission. I doubt Human resources will have made a decision based on what they thought of the video and if they did I doubt that would mean anything to the Police Complaints Commission.
By:
tobermory
When: 22 Sep 16 23:44
If the Nazis had conquered Britain this country would be a dream posting for a Gestapo agent.

No resistance movements to worry about , total acceptance of authority's right to do what it likes without even needing to give justification.
By:
akabula
When: 22 Sep 16 23:48
Would be a matter of procedure to suspend if any doubt that he acted outwith the law.
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 22 Sep 16 23:50
the more generations that go on the more trouble they become obviously to
a degree.

unfortunately the chip brigade spoil it for others.

but again obviously Enoch warned us about the obvious dangers (which were rubbished)
By:
tobermory
When: 22 Sep 16 23:53
Though this attitude that 'the police are always right' is a fairly modern thing in England really.

Imagine a random stop and search policy had been introduced in Medieval London . The entire city would have been a smoking ruin within a week.

The government stopping people in the street searching their pockets asking where they were going ..... the pitchforks would have been out in no time....Scared
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 22 Sep 16 23:53
Would be a matter of procedure to suspend if any doubt that he acted outwith the law.

Not at all. If a person or a police officer gets a complaint made against them then they don't automatically get suspended.
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 22 Sep 16 23:58
cooperate
kəʊˈɒpəreɪt/Submit
verb
work jointly towards the same end.
"the leaders promised to cooperate in ending the civil war"
assist someone or comply with their requests.


What a lovely word cooperate is, so simple to understand surely.

not for some it seems
By:
akabula
When: 23 Sep 16 00:00
The officer in that scenario would be interviewed immediately and a decision taken whether to suspend or not.
In this case the evidence is clear for all to see so if he'd acted illegally he'd have been suspended.
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 23 Sep 16 00:05
In they're failed experiment i reckon its best we just have black or muslim
Police.
That should help assist the Chip on the shoulder merchants surely.

A motorway Cop on a highly powered motor bike in the full burqa chasing you Cry
By:
akabula
When: 23 Sep 16 00:13
Laugh
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 23 Sep 16 00:18
The officer in that scenario would be interviewed immediately and a decision taken whether to suspend or not.
In this case the evidence is clear for all to see so if he'd acted illegally he'd have been suspended.


That's not true. If you think what happens when a police officer gets a complaint made against them is that they get interviewed by another police officer, immedediately,  who then makes a decision on whether or not they have possibly done something wrong, immediately, then you are barking.

As I've said it will be the Police Complaints Commission who decides whether has has done anything wrong. It's in the name.
By:
akabula
When: 23 Sep 16 00:24
It would be a police officer of ACC status or above.
By:
akabula
When: 23 Sep 16 00:27
BTW the PCC said they had taken over the investigation.
By:
tobermory
When: 23 Sep 16 00:56
what happned to the 'nothing to do with the race it is just the police are always right' stuff from the first pages i skimmed ?

now we have 'Enoch was right' Crazy
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 23 Sep 16 10:07
first impessions on seeing this was that the cop had "lost it" but on thinking, a few points have to be made ,  looking  at it from the cops point of view , all supposition till facts emerge , 1. what went on before filming starts ? what was said  by both partys ? ,presumably cops had info on suspect car before pulling driver over , intelligance could have been owner  disqualified ,known to be dangerous ,possibly armed ,had previous for driving off at speed and putting innocent pedestrians and drivers at risk?,why not, if driver has nothing to hide  get out of car  ? also possible that driver was not actual owner of car ? ,also is it not possible that police pulled car over and informed driver that he was suspected of being a disqualified driver, but in reality used that as ploy so  as to not panic him into speeding off when the owner was suspected of something more serious .
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 23 Sep 16 11:19
The driver locked himself in the car.
The copper told him to get out of the car.
The driver sat there arguing and wouldn't get out.
The copper smashed his windscreen it.

A logical progression of events.

What I can't understand is why the driver hasn't been charged with obstructing a police officer?
By:
kincsem
When: 23 Sep 16 20:01
^ Only a logical progression of events if you are mental.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 23 Sep 16 20:57
If that's the case kincsem. You should agree with it completely.
By:
akabula
When: 24 Sep 16 00:56
What parts of Dr Cs post are wrong kincsem?
By:
Gin
When: 26 Sep 16 14:01
Here is an example of what the police have to put up with. Despite resisting arrest and then fighting with the police (and continuing to threaten them once they have her under control), the guy filming the incident gives a running commentary accusing them of "police brutality" etc.........

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/watch-bristol-woman-arrested-in-kebab-house-over-can-of-coke/story-29751102-detail/story.html
By:
Gin
When: 26 Sep 16 14:02
****Should warn that there is lots of swearing in the video****
By:
Gin
When: 26 Sep 16 14:52
Hold on! I think I recognise the guy who's filming voice - It couldn't be "You ain't no muslim bruv" could it?Silly

#Youaintnocopbruv
By:
geordie1956
When: 26 Sep 16 15:02
To balance the post by Gin here's a few examples of excessive police force -

1979: Blair Peach was fatally assaulted by an officer of the Special Patrol Group (SPG) during an anti-racism demonstration in London. A police investigation into the SPG found that they had a cache of unauthorised weapons.[9] The Metropolitan Police reached an out-of-court settlement with Peach's family in 1989.[10] The police eventually published their internal report in 2010, concluding that Peach had probably been killed by an officer, but officers within that unit had refused to identify the culprit.[11]
1985: the Battle of the Beanfield occurred in Wiltshire when police attempted to stop a convoy of New Age travellers from reaching Stonehenge. After a stand-off, police attacked both vehicles and people, smashing windows and beating travellers on the head with truncheons. A court judgement six years later found the police guilty of wrongful arrest, assault and criminal damage.[12]
1994: Richard O'Brien died in Metropolitan Police custody. He was arrested while drunk, and held face down in a police van. An inquest returned a verdict of unlawful killing, but three officers charged with manslaughter were acquitted.[13]
1998: Christopher Alder died at the Queen's Gardens police station from Asphyxiation. He was arrested for breach of the peace at Hull Royal Infirmary. Footage of Christopher, lying handcuffed and half-naked on the floor of a police cell, surrounded by five officers making monkey noises is available online. An inquest returned a verdict of unlawful killing, but the five officers charged with manslaughter were acquitted.[14]
1999: Harry Stanley was shot dead by Metropolitan Police, thinking he was armed, although he was found to be carrying only a table leg. The coroner controversially returned an open verdict. The Crown Prosecution Service accepted the police's assertion that they were acting in self-defence.[15]
2009: policing at the 2009 G-20 London summit protests included the technique of kettling. A bystander, Ian Tomlinson, died shortly after being pushed to the ground by a police officer. An inquest found that Tomlinson was unlawfully killed. An officer in the Metropolitan Police's Territorial Support Group was charged with manslaughter, but found not guilty.[16]
By:
Capt__F
When: 26 Sep 16 22:20
6 incidents 37 years
By:
THEMONEYSHOT
When: 26 Sep 16 22:32
Don't believe that is an exhaustive list, more like the tip of the iceberg.
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 26 Sep 16 23:07
Yeah the police have a job of dealing with criminals every day so that means they can do what they want. Crazy
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