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It`s not my partners family. Her step dad is a relation. Generalising about the entire family is poor.
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wouldn't let any of them near my children
wouldn't allow any association with the family either some people have no idea of caring for their children and apologists try to make excuses for people who have no idea how to behave properly in society of course he is being obtuse and deflecting most of those who make excuses for these sort of people do this - it is their one clearly defined tactic. |
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What happens to the kids when the mother goes to work? The ex con boyfriend looks after the kids.
Which bit is obtuse? |
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wouldn't let any of them near my children
Who are you talking about? the mother, the Gran, the uncles, the great uncles?? Do you know much about the great uncles? |
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We know plenty about the bloke that killed her, so did his girlfriends.
Really don't know what your point is here gabrial, you lie down with dogs you get fleas, getting involved with scumbags is irresponsible at best. |
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My point is that there are disfunctional families with scumbgs acting as the male guardian throughout our society.
If you think about it, there must be thousands of kids at risk from men with criminal pasts. I am therefore surprised more kids are not murdered if these men are liable to be child murderers. In actual fact children are more in danger from depressed biological parents. |
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simple rule to abide by ...never leave a child with a man whose decorated himself with tatoos as he's obviously barking.
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....... or one that having slept with your daughter, turns his attentions to you
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....... or one that having slept with your daughter, turns his attentions to you
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Trial has begun
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some terrible stuff in court today
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Gabriel must be hard for family listening to what's coming out---the guys evil
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If the police suspected him from the start and they knew he didn`t drive then perhaps they should have been more thorough in searching the loft instead of implementing Christine into it.
Evidence is still needed to convict him of murder. It`s a mess. |
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seems to be a sizeable amount of evidence
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The jurors will have to decide though Tobe, can they be sure it wasn`t an accident. The autopsy was inconclusive regarding cause.
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the jury can decide what they want - if he tries to claim an accident (like Huntley and Tabak) and the jury don't believe him it's murder.
1.01 verdict will be guilty of murder |
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surprised he is pleading anything but guilty reading the photographic evidence they have
does sound like the Huntley defence will be used |
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I imagine i would panic if a tragic accident happened when i was the only adult but fk me dont think i would wrap up the body and hide it in the loft. He is clearly guilty. Wasnt his napeighbour also under suspicion? Surely guilty, sadly sexually motivated too. I also cant be having any excuses from the cops, they should have found the body earlier. It was sad, embarassing and ultimately tragic at a time when the country was on a high duringthe olympics.
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A sex toy with blood on it was found, how is he going to explain that?
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That would matter if we knew whose blood it was.
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Its her blood according to http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/05/07/tia-sharp-stuart-hazell_n_3229467.html?utm_hp_ref=uk
Prosecutor Andrew Edis QC said that a sex toy with Tia's blood on it was found at her grandmother's house after she died. |
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Yesterdays news was truly terrible - even the six o'clock news contained so much child molestation , murder and kidnapping i really didnt want my kids to see. You would like to think when this scumbag gets to prison he will be torn to pieces and live his life in fear - but i strongly suspect the entire secure wing is filling up with these evil perverts now.
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if we had the death penalty at least he wouldn't do it again
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Don't start the luvvies off
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Shut it gayboy.
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Changed his plea to guilty.
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Only so he gets a reduced sentence
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They should 'farm' his body for any useful component parts and just dispose of the rest.
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this case an April case is so depressing
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but surely a reduced sentence means the same here surely that he wont ever be coming out , so whats the point of pleading guilty
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Murder of a child involving sexual conduct should mean a `whole life order`
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gabrial's stance here is extraordinary.
From, he cant have done it the family love him, to they won't get a conviction, and finally he pleads guilty. |
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An absoulte monster, hope he gets the full torture treatment inside.
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I see they all come out of the woodwork now saying what a nasty bit of work he was
I make the comment that along the lines of 'they would NOW wouldn't they' .Then i get told they did and they have previously - locals etc OH YEAH!!!! anyway the CCDA were on to him as a wrong 'un You only had to look.!!! |
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He wont get a reduced sentence surely. Prob get life with at least forty years before being eligible for parole like huntley. Maybe he was telling the truth and thinks the family have been through enough.
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Guilty of murder verdict was inevitable - his brief probably told him as much and he might as well fess up. Doubt it will do him any good though.
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Angel the phrase you are looking for is "whole life tariff"
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I was just going by this A-T
Where the offender is 21 or over at the time of the offence and the court takes the view that the murder is so grave that the offender should spend the rest of his life in prison, a 'whole life order' is the appropriate starting point. The early release provisions in section 28 of the Crime (Sentences) Act 1997 will then not apply. Such an order should only be specified where the court considers that the seriousness of the offence is exceptionally high. Such cases include: a) the murder of two or more persons where each murder involves a substantial degree of premeditation, the abduction of the victim, or sexual or sadistic conduct; b) the murder of a child if involving the abduction of the child or sexual or sadistic motivation; c) a murder done for the purpose of advancing a political, religious or ideological cause; or d) a murder by an offender previously convicted of murder. |
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http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/sentencing_-_mandatory_life_sentences_in_murder_cases/#an05
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Fair enough.
Incidentally I don't think chit-chat favourites Huntley and Vincent Tabak are not subject to this tariff. And many will remember the embarrassing occasion when the CDDA imposed its own "whole life tariff" on the Bristol landlord before he was even arrested. The wrong-un test is not infallible though it was spot on with Hazell. |