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By:
Ylime
When: 08 Sep 12 12:06
THE funeral of tragic schoolgirl Tia Sharp will be held next Friday — with thousands likely to pay their last respects.

A family friend said yesterday: “It is going to be a very moving day — and not just for the family. We expect the streets to be packed.

“Lots of people will want to take the opportunity to say goodbye.”

Twelve-year-old Tia’s body was found in the loft at her gran Christine Bicknell’s home in New Addington, South London, a week after she went missing last month.

Bicknell, 46, who was arrested on suspicion of murder and bailed pending further inquiries, is set to attend the funeral. Her partner Stuart Hazell, 37, has been charged with murder.

Tia’s white coffin will be taken through the streets by horse-drawn carriage. The cortege will pass her old school Raynes Park High, in Merton. There will be a break in lessons so staff and 1,100 pupils can pay their respects.

An initial post mortem failed to establish the cause of death. A second has taken place and Tia’s family were told yesterday that her body will be released.
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 08 Sep 12 12:12
That is going to be an awfully sad day for those who knew and loved her.

RIP Tia
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 08 Sep 12 19:05
So many questions still unanswered.

Prosecution have got a job on due to non findings of the autopsy.
By:
tobermory
When: 07 Dec 12 14:16
Tia Sharp death: No action against grandmother Christine Sharp


No further action will be taken against the grandmother of 12-year-old Tia Sharp over the schoolgirl's death, the Metropolitan Police has said.

Christine Sharp, 46, was arrested on suspicion of murder after Tia's body was found in her house in New Addington, Croydon, in August.

Tia's body was found a week after she was reported missing on 3 August.

Mrs Sharp's partner, 37-year-old Stuart Hazell, has been charged with the girl's murder.

A Metropolitan Police spokesman said the decision not to pursue any action against Mrs Sharp was taken on 4 December.

A 39-year-old man who was arrested on suspicion of assisting an offender remains on bail until mid-December.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 07 Dec 12 16:14
Just seen this Tobe.

The next door neighbour is still on bail.

The police had nothing on Christine but when they discovered Tia`s body 7 days too late. The inquiry moved into a `was the body moved` investigation and it was Christine who had the car.

So for the police incompetence Christine was highlighted in the press front page as a murder suspect. Yet if the police had found the body on day one a timeline of Tia`s death would have matched Christines alibi from her place of work.
By:
tobermory
When: 07 Dec 12 16:18
I still think the hostility to her was that she had shacked up with this dubious bloke and left Tia in his care

Be interesting to see what role the neighbour was supposed to have played
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 07 Dec 12 16:29
Christine did not know Tia had gone to stay that night. She was at work, and also there are many dubious step dad characters in our society. Hindsight is wonderful.

The neighbour obviously gave false information regarding to seeing Tia leave the house. Also his attic links up with Christines.

Both house are being demolished though.
By:
tobermory
When: 07 Dec 12 16:34
A bit of hindsight, yes, but i doubt she will be 'in the clear' as far as public opinion goes after the trial.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 07 Dec 12 16:38
Only because the public form opinions through media perceptions. In reality how could she not be in the clear? She fell for a criminal.

Criminals live in the community, who do we blame when they do bad?
By:
pixie
When: 07 Dec 12 16:48
Quite obvious really, Angel Gabriel. We rightly blame the family that allowed a 12 year old child to spend time unsupervised with a drug dealing, crack using, psycho with a long criminal record.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 07 Dec 12 17:02
Pixie

We have been here before. Also for 5 years he had arranged birthday parties for Tia, taken her to the park hundreds of times, cooked for her hundreds of times, bought he presents, helped her with homework and done many helpful things for her and her family.

Was there any indication he was child murderer? No.
Was he scum? Yes his criminal past suggests yes. Criminals are good to their families Pixie. How do we pinpoint child killers?
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 07 Dec 12 17:03
Also Pixie as mentioned before. No suggestion he was a crack head or still dealing.
By:
pixie
When: 07 Dec 12 17:12
Yes, AG, he sounds like a paragon of virtue - an exemplary guardian. In fact I'm surprised he hadn't started his own baby sitting and dog walking service for the other families on the estate.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 07 Dec 12 17:18
You must be petitioning in your community to stop these child murderers Pixie. A man of your insight must be paramount to any society.

Have you started to round them up yet?
By:
pixie
When: 07 Dec 12 17:26
My kids are kept safe and alive - as are all the other children in the area that I live. Probably something to do with the fact that as parents/guardians we tend to draw the line at giving criminals with drug and violence convictions access to our children unsupervised.

Poor Tia wasn't afforded this obvious protection. Hope this helps.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 07 Dec 12 17:31
pixie

How many ex cons are step father figures in our community? what guidelines are you petitioning for?
By:
moisok
When: 07 Dec 12 17:45
wouldn't have let him anywhere near my children NAP
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 07 Dec 12 17:48
Moisok

Thousands of ex cons are accepted into relationships with women with children in the family, as step father figures etc. Possibly sleeping under the same roof as the kids unsupervised.

What should be societies policy?
By:
Capt__F
When: 07 Dec 12 18:09
has he pleaded guilty ?
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 07 Dec 12 18:16
No plea Capt F

Plea hearing in March.
Trial May
By:
moisok
When: 07 Dec 12 20:27
not interested in social policy  only that I wouldn't let them near my daughters - simple for me.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 07 Dec 12 20:35
You are not a woman though Moisok. They are the ones getting involved with ex cons.
By:
moisok
When: 07 Dec 12 20:54
dont know what u r on about - all i said was i wouldnt let him or any other near my children
simples

that posh saying 'duty of care' springs to mind   or being a responsible adult

now blackburn have scored and I am going to lose all my money
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 07 Dec 12 20:57
dont know what u r on about

Ex cons being involved in a relationships with women, with kids in the family.
By:
moisok
When: 07 Dec 12 21:42
don't be obtuse
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 08 Dec 12 06:33
How am i being obtuse Confused

You had lost your train of thought. I was merely reminding you Moistsok.
By:
pixie
When: 08 Dec 12 11:04
Oh for goodness sake, Angel Gabriel, I have no idea how many ex-cons are stepfathers and I'm not petitioning for anything. In this case anyway, SH was not acting stepfather albeit he had shagged the the mother (and was now on the grandmother) of the victim.

This family are utter low-life, scummy, trailer trash, filth who through their dysfunctionality allowed a dangerous man free access to a vulnerable child and to consequently murder her. 99.9% of 'normal' parents wouldn't have let their daughter anywhere near him and I would be confident in stating that you clearly don't have children of your own, as you would not be making such a fool of yourself by arguing the point that there was no way of knowing that he was such a bad person to have as a sole guardian if you had.

Tia's mother and grandmother let her down badly. I just hope the mother doesn't have any more children as it would be unkind for any child to have her as a mother and it would just be another burden on our social services.
By:
dashero
When: 08 Dec 12 12:02
Laugh Pixie you just reminded of this Bill Hicks sketch Laugh
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdluglmE2Cs
By:
moisok
When: 08 Dec 12 13:05
as I said I wouldn't let anyone like this near my children and if you think anything else then it says a lot about what you perceive as being a responsible parent

the implied apologist slant you have for this type of person is another matter of course
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 08 Dec 12 14:24
Moisok

Your interpretation of what i have said is that of a lop sided oaf. I am not an apologist for a child murderer. Yet you have to understand their are thousands of ex cons with access to children.

Once again were do you draw the line with stepfather/grandfather figures?
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 08 Dec 12 14:30
Pixie

I have 2 young sons and like Moistsok you are ignoring my question.

Were do you draw the line with ex cons being stepfather/stepgrandfather figures for children? Are you saying that ex cons are a risk to children? even when for 5 years they have not put a foot wrong in the eyes of the family.

Pixie i would not allow my sons to sleep under the same roof as you. What does that say about me? what does that say about you?
By:
moisok
When: 08 Dec 12 15:29
just the usual abandoning of common sense and care which you quite clearly imply in your various statements

I wouldn't associate with any of them, let alone have them near my children

You apologists for criminals need locking up yourselves - you are the ones that make it worse.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 08 Dec 12 15:37
You need to learn to interpret words more thoroughly Moisok.

Who is an apologist for criminals?
Can you not answer the previous question?

Were do you draw the line with ex cons being stepfather/stepgrandfather figures for children?
By:
moisok
When: 08 Dec 12 15:39
i wouldn't let any of them near my children
I think I am consistent on that
By:
moisok
When: 08 Dec 12 15:39
and don't try the patronising tactic either
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 08 Dec 12 15:41
And what of women who start relationships with ex cons?
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 08 Dec 12 15:44
I don`t expect you to answer it Moistsok.
By:
moisok
When: 08 Dec 12 15:45
same
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 08 Dec 12 15:48
So perhaps you would support the prison service and rehabilitation service to create a notion to stop ex cons forming relationships were children are easily accessed?
By:
moisok
When: 08 Dec 12 16:16
don't want anything to do with them
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