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Tia Sharp the 12 year old girl missing from South London.
Tia Sharp the 12 year old girl missing from South London.
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You would only be a fool to allow anyone like this character near your children
You are asking for it NAP |
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It`s alright saying that you don`t want anything to do with them but surely you would want to suggest a notion to protect children in the future from ex cons.
Many mothers out there are vulnerable to rogue characters and this puts their childrens safety in danger. Surely you feel something needs to change? |
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You would only be a fool to allow anyone like this character near your children
Correct,to me and you Moisok but love is blind as they say and these men are great at deception. Should social services weed these characters out? |
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they certainly don't in rochdale
I hope, I like others, have the common sense not to allow these individuals anywhere near my children The law appears to bend over to make excuses for these people - you appear to have the same approach. |
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What excuses have i made?
You keep obsessing about what you would do, in not letting ex cons near your kids. Missing the point again. It`s women taking these guys not people like you. |
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it would be a good idea if people did a bit more obsessing about the care and parental responsibilities re children
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Does that mean women with kids in the family should not form relationships with ex cons
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Probably not a bad idea
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Not sure you can police that one.
Many ex cons have their own kids. And as we know parents can be a danger to their own children. |
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You might think this a bit harsh but i would like the underclass to be vetted before bring allowed to have children...only those who have the potential to contribute to society should be allowed to breed.
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Posy
Do you mean having a work ethic to provide financially or just one of educational and moralistic standards? |
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what i don't like about this case is he moved from the mother to the grandmother
not role behaviour |
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a really lovely man - they must be proud
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Who must be proud you idiot?
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AG Certainly not just financially. You need a licence in this country to drive a car or sell alcohol so why not to have a child.
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ha ha let's resort to personal abuse - excellent tactic - but then you apologists always do
throw in the odd racist accusation while you are at it liberals making excuses - I just love it |
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Moisok
You consistently fail to add any substance to the the bigger problem. You are quick to point the finger but offer no solution. That quantifies an idiot Sun readers mentality. AKA an idiot. |
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even better - you keep up the insults - never mind and not your fault
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Not sure why you feel everything revolves around you Moisok.
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well YOU are the one dishing out the insults
all I said was I wouldnt let him (or anyone like him) near my children |
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As you keep repeating your own mantra i would not expect anything of more substance from you.
You obviously want all child murders to stay away from children. Yet how can you tell who are the child killers before they actually kill? Should all ex cons carry a warning sign to prevent them being left alone with children? Perhaps a policy were all children must be in the company of at least one blood relative or else a baby sitter who must be vetted? |
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that's ok then
I know my own mind and know my own responsibilities to my own children. I try as best I can to provide appropriate parenting, care and loving. The thought of any of this lot associating with me or my family makes me shudder !!! |
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Moisok
Do you actually think that the family had any ideas that he was a child killer. She was not left in a strangers house. She had a bedroom at her grandmothers were she often stayed. How many ex cons have murdered their partners granddaughter that you know of? |
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Often the woman's need for a man causes more heartache to the family than is imaginable. The Grandmother wasn't at all choosy about her men are there laid the problem sadly.
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Angel Gabrial
08 Dec 12 14:30 Joined: 09 May 05 | Topic/replies: 9,059 | Blogger: Angel Gabrial's blog Pixie I have 2 young sons and like Moistsok you are ignoring my question. Were do you draw the line with ex cons being stepfather/stepgrandfather figures for children? Are you saying that ex cons are a risk to children? even when for 5 years they have not put a foot wrong in the eyes of the family. Pixie i would not allow my sons to sleep under the same roof as you. What does that say about me? what does that say about you? Jesus wept. What is your problem AG? Is it that you are so ashamed of your partner's scumbag of a family that you have to defend them and their type because you feel for some ridiculous way it may reflect badly on you? You are coming across as extremely foolish either because of this or are just picking an argument just for the sake of it. However, if you really do want your points (?) answered then here we go.... Were do you draw the line with ex cons being stepfather/stepgrandfather figures for children? Are you saying that ex cons are a risk to children? even when for 5 years they have not put a foot wrong in the eyes of the family. There is obviously no line that any legislation or government can draw or even reasonably enforce on access issues with dangerous ex cons in their role as stepfather/stepgrandfather. THIS RESPONSIBILITY CAN ONLY COME FROM THE MOTHER/FATHER/GUARDIAN OF THE CHILD AT RISK AND THE CHILD'S SAFETY SHOULD ALWAYS BE PUT FIRST BY THEM. YOUR PARTNER'S FAMILY, THE MOTHER AND GRANDMOTHER OF THE POOR MURDERED CHILD, FAILED IN THEIR DUTY OF CARE. GOT IT? IS THAT REALLY THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND? Pixie i would not allow my sons to sleep under the same roof as you. What does that say about me? what does that say about you? This moronic sentence says quite a lot about you actually. I would sincerely hope that you wouldn't let your sons sleep under the roof of a male that you have never met but only argued with on an anonymous internet forum. The fact that you feel you have to tell me this concerns me. |
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By the way, Dashero, loved the Bill Hicks sketch.
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THE MOTHER AND GRANDMOTHER OF THE POOR MURDERED CHILD, FAILED IN THEIR DUTY OF CARE. GOT IT? IS THAT REALLY THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND?
So when a child is left with a step grandfather. The family are failing in their duty of care? |
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No. Did you not read my post?
I'll spell it out for you one last time. It's about personal responsibility.... Only in this case the child was too young to be responsible for herself so her scumbag mother/grandmother should have been looking after her but failed miserably in their duty of care. They felt, or more likely didn't care, that it was ok to leave a vulnerable child in the sole care of an ex con with a history of violence, drug taking and drug dealing. IT DOES NOT MATTER ONE JOT THAT HE HAPPENED TO BE THE VICTIM'S STEPFATHER/STEPGRANDFATHER. JUST THAT ANY HALF DECENT PARENT/GUARDIAN WOULD KNOW THAT IT WOULD NOT BE SAFE FOR A CHILD IN THEIR CARE TO BE LEFT ALONE WITH A PERSON WITH A CRIMINAL AND PERSONAL HISTORY LIKE HIS. Would you leave your teenage daughters (if you had them) in the care of their step grandfather if the step grandfather happened to be Jimmy Savile? |
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In this case absolutely yes. A criminal record, previously shacked up with the mother, in and out of work, you don't need a law to tell you to avoid these scumbags.
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AG,whats the latest on the case,know the step g/father on remand but when does the case come to trial,is he gonna admit murder or is he still relying on evidence being flawed?
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Would you leave your teenage daughters (if you had them) in the care of their step grandfather if the step grandfather happened to be Jimmy Savile?
Was it known to people that Jimmy Saville was a sex case? I am sure family members of Saville`s would have trusted their children in his care if they didn`t know he was a case. Tia had known him for 5 years. Was there any signs that he would snap and kill her? Thousands of blokes have a history of drink and violence to other men. These men are scattered all over society. They cut the grass, wash the dishes, make the bed, take the kids to the park, help with homework etc....then boom they snap and murder?? is this what you are saying. Or is this case just a one off? because if it`s not then we have 1000`s of kids in danger. |
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Barrowboy
The plea hearing is in March and the trial in May. The police have made a pigs ear of the case so how he is going to plead is still open to speculation. |
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As you well know, this child and this horrific, dysfunctional family were well known to Social Services. There was every chance that an incident like this could have happened and the poor child's carers put her in a position where the worst and quite possibly inevitable, thing happened.
The poor child was not afforded the protection that every child should have as a right. My children (and thankfully 99.9% of the country's) will never be placed in such danger. |
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In this case absolutely yes. A criminal record, previously shacked up with the mother, in and out of work, you don't need a law to tell you to avoid these scumbags.
These scumbags are two a penny on these estates Blacky. In and out of prison. Yet the kids are generally safe and actually protected. Of course scummy role models but they don`t often snap into child murderers after 5 years. |
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Yes, because the children aren't left alone with them.
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ok right,so when you say the police have made a pigs ear was it simply a case of the length of time it took to find her body.
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Yes Barrowboy.
Imagine if Tia had been found after the first search in the attic. The autopsy would have determined cause and time. |
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Yes, because the children aren't left alone with them.
Of course they are Pixie. What happens to the kids when the mother goes to work? The ex con boyfriend looks after the kids. |
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You're being pathetic and deliberately obtuse. You win, I can't be bothered to waste my time arguing. Your partner has a lovely loving family in New Addington, you must be very proud of them, just a pity one of them died tho.
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It`s not my partners family. Her step dad is a relation. Generalising about the entire family is poor.
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