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By:
fronter
When: 11 Aug 12 14:56
Feel for you Angel, whoever did this wants locking up for life and probably worse.
Did I read you're related to the family?
By:
HonkyJoe
When: 11 Aug 12 14:58
Has anyone read about the way Hazell was spotted?  You're on the run. You're trying not to be identified. So, what do you do?  Well, you drop in on a shop (with CCTV!) and buy some vodka and a cigarette lighter.   And then, a few minutes later, you go back to the same shop and buy, erm, more vodka and another cigarette lighter?  What???     Did he make two unsuccessful attempts to set himself alight???  Why didn't he just take a running jump from a tall building?
By:
Ylime
When: 11 Aug 12 15:03
It appears he drank the 2 x 1/2 bottles of vodka....after the first one he probably forgot what his plan was tbh.
By:
HonkyJoe
When: 11 Aug 12 15:09
The vodka I sort of understand (although personally I'd be trying to avoid all shops and public places, and creeping around looking instead for an obliging Bulgarian who could supply me with a fake passport..).   But why two cigarette lighters??
By:
Roquebrune
When: 11 Aug 12 15:21
I wonder if they took the body into next doors loft space?
By:
HonkyJoe
When: 11 Aug 12 15:34
Ah.. He only bought one cigarette lighter. (The Sky news site is incorrect...)  All makes sense now.  Well, most of it..
By:
tiptopcat
When: 11 Aug 12 15:41
dfor those aying police incomopetent ref soham etc. huntley was defo no 1 suspect from day 1
By:
stealthgun
When: 11 Aug 12 15:44
Clearly he had no intention of topping himself or he would have done so. That means he may not be totally guilty or couldn't bring himself to do it.
By:
HonkyJoe
When: 11 Aug 12 15:50
Could mean all sorts of things Stealthgun.  Don't think you can draw any conclusions about whether he was 'totally guilty' from whether he topped himself or not.
By:
A_T
When: 11 Aug 12 15:58
he'll probably be trying for all his worth to show diminished responsibility
By:
speedypro
When: 11 Aug 12 16:01
If it walks like scumm quacks like scumm,, it is probably scumm, and probably looked like scum on first sight too.
By:
ClayDavis
When: 11 Aug 12 16:02
Chit Chat detective agency disgracing themselves again. SH may not have done it you know. Remember the Bristol Landlord who you all had guilty?
By:
HonkyJoe
When: 11 Aug 12 16:08
Well I didn't have him banged to rights Clay. There wasn't any evidence I was aware of apart from the fact that he seemed a bit of an oddball - which, by itself, is no evidence at all.

On the other hand, fleeing after the body is found in your own house, when several inconsistencies in your account, and your background of crime, always pointed to you being the likely killer, offers quite good grounds.
By:
HonkyJoe
When: 11 Aug 12 16:08
The first line, obviously, was referring to the 'Bristol Landlord'..
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 11 Aug 12 16:12
Clay the police are doubting every turn they make now.
By:
HonkyJoe
When: 11 Aug 12 16:15
You still think this is some sort of conspiracy Gabrial?
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 11 Aug 12 16:24
In what way have i said its a conspiracy.

Just saying that the police have decided to take no chances. I have no complaints with this but it would have been more professional a week ago.
By:
Latalomne
When: 11 Aug 12 16:25
"Human error led to the delay in finding the body", the Met Police admits.
By:
HonkyJoe
When: 11 Aug 12 16:27
In other words, they didn't check the loft...  Blush
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 11 Aug 12 16:27
So they are suggesting now that the body was perhaps never moved.

The link to Christine was her car being examined.
By:
dustybin
When: 11 Aug 12 16:28
the police might not have showered themselves in glory AG but thats the lesser of two evils aint it?
whatever happens regarding finding out why the police didnt get on this earlier, there is no doubt that the death of the kid is somebodies responsibility, somebody who you will likely know, and that needs to be the focal point imo
By:
Latalomne
When: 11 Aug 12 16:28
AG - it sounds like it.  They have apparently apologised to Tia's mother.
By:
dustybin
When: 11 Aug 12 16:29
blame the police once this is done, right now its about finding who should shoulder the significant blame of the childs death
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 11 Aug 12 16:30
I wouldnt disagree with you dustybin

But every mishap has a knock on effect.
By:
Latalomne
When: 11 Aug 12 16:30
Just for the record, I'm not blaming anybody, merely passing on what was just reported as breaking news.
By:
A_T
When: 11 Aug 12 16:33
Did they even look in the loft? Tia might have been alive up there.
By:
HonkyJoe
When: 11 Aug 12 16:35
Presumably they didn't have a ladder handy A_T!
By:
xmoneyx
When: 11 Aug 12 16:44
there was a case up here scotland---body was found in hedge ----yds away----3 months

dont police hav a missing/murder manual---closest vacinity first
By:
BonVivvy
When: 11 Aug 12 16:48
Is the thinking that the toothless simpleton ex con guy had been having some sort of "relationship" with the kid and it's all kicked off (possibly she was gonna grass him) and he's killed her?

These large families of underclass unempolyed uneducated simpletons with seemingly endless step relations and what have you seem a perfect recipe for incest and murder,tragicly awful though that seems.
By:
HonkyJoe
When: 11 Aug 12 16:48
In fairness, my next door neighbour was looking for her dead cat for two months. She didn't think to look in the fern bush by her front window until my sister crept over there looking for our shuttlecock!!

Having said that, you would have thought the typical cop was rather better at finding corpses than my next door neighbour...
By:
HonkyJoe
When: 11 Aug 12 16:50
Yes, a number of us have mulled over that possibility Bon Vivvy. He'd gone through the mother and the grandmother already, so it would certainly make sense!
By:
Roquebrune
When: 11 Aug 12 16:50
Bon,it's her grandmother that's been charged with murder.
By:
Latalomne
When: 11 Aug 12 16:51
They both have.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 11 Aug 12 16:51
Bonvivvy

The mum and the gran work, so to cast them as unemployed uneducated simpletons is harsh.

SH on the other hand is the underclass and perhaps your first sentence is correct.
By:
dustybin
When: 11 Aug 12 16:54
where is the mother btw?
no doubt this has been asked but Im not going through the whole thread.
Is she an addict or something and the child stayed with grandmother instead?
havent seen a single glimpse of her.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 11 Aug 12 16:54
is your wife holding up ok AG?
By:
casemoney
When: 11 Aug 12 16:55
Hazell a violent criminal with drug convictions - 37 looks 77 - should n't be anywhere near kids as guardian figure in the first place.
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I actually blame the whole family ,she should never have been left with this character ,regardless of what has happened
anything could have happened I.e I would imagine he would have quite a few enemies from his past imagine them turning
up at the house ,who leaves their child with a nutter which is obviouisly what he is ,why was she not home with her parents..

Lets see if the gran has any previous I would bet short she has ..

Tia was a lamb to the slaughter ,an extremely disturbing and upsetting case ...

I ask again who would leave their daughter in the same house as this character ...

sorry for the Harshness towards your wifes family angel but it is with them the blame lies ..

quite unbelievable tbh ...
By:
gotitwrong-
When: 11 Aug 12 16:56
nobody has been charged , roqueborne ,have they ?
By:
HonkyJoe
When: 11 Aug 12 16:57
Yeah Gabrial, since you're so keen to protect the family, where is the mother?  The gran said earlier this week that Tia saw her house as a 'refuge' from home. A refuge from what exactly?
By:
Ivor
When: 11 Aug 12 16:57
Still no-one tells me who/where is Tia's Dad!
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