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By:
Mcginty
When: 11 Aug 12 21:22
CheltenhamRoar says:

Does anybody else not think that cases like this further enhances the belief (by a lot of people) that Madeleine McCann was murdered by her very close family,ie her parents!

Exactly what I was thinking (Maddie, not murdered, but a case of gross neglect resulting in death)
By:
ClayDavis
When: 11 Aug 12 21:22
I'm not sure SH did it. Getting p!ssed up and being filmed in off licence and telling everyone his name is not the actions of someone with something to hide.
I reckon there was a relationship and SH is distraught at what has happened.
The gran has serious questions to answer, serious questions. And the neighbour.
By:
elisjohn
When: 11 Aug 12 21:26
am i correct, been out all day, the gran arrested for murder and a 39 year old male for assisting an offender,
By:
Latalomne
When: 11 Aug 12 21:29
Arrested on suspicion of murder, yeah.
By:
Latalomne
When: 11 Aug 12 21:30
(39yo named as neighbour, Paul Meehan).
By:
elisjohn
When: 11 Aug 12 21:35
thx lat, whats been  going on ?
By:
thedodgepot
When: 11 Aug 12 21:57
You cant compare these people with McCanns.  McCanns are different class.
By:
Catford Toteboard
When: 11 Aug 12 23:25
I note that the police said today of the second search on August 5th; “All parts of the premises were searched including the location where a body was discovered five days later on Friday August 10." The police are therefore saying Tia's body must have been moved hence the other arrests. Wait to see who is actually charged and with what.
By:
Clungehungry
When: 12 Aug 12 00:09
There's still a lot of odd stuff here. I know he looks a bit simple, but hiding a body in a loft and then telling the police she had left the house were both clearly gonna get found out, even by PC Blunkett. She was tiny, surely he'd have tried to get her out the house, the one place that would clearly incriminate him.
By:
Try My Best
When: 12 Aug 12 00:20
congratulations to the police for not suspecting the drug riddled ex prisoners home could be the place to search with a fine tooth comb for the body.They are as thick as **** for not tearing the place to pieces in their search for the poor girl.Another piece of total incompetence from the plods.
By:
twomatchpoints
When: 12 Aug 12 00:21
It makes no difference if they found the body on search 1 or search 5

She was already dead
By:
Try My Best
When: 12 Aug 12 00:24
It might make some difference to the parents you plank
By:
DStyle
When: 12 Aug 12 00:25
thank you tmp.

my thoughts precisely and i'm astonished by all the press about it.

and besides, there's plenty to suggest that the body has been moved about.
By:
Howdi
When: 12 Aug 12 00:35
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It makes no difference if they found the body on search 1 or search 5

She was already dead

ffs what a comment
By:
Clungehungry
When: 12 Aug 12 00:42
Of course they suspected him you simpleton, that doesn't give them the right to wreck his house. The police don't make the law, they uphold it.
By:
Try My Best
When: 12 Aug 12 00:52
If they suspect a body is in that house they have got every right to search that property from top to bottom leaving no stone unturned you idiot.Let's face it they did half a job as usual and there is no getting away from that fact.
By:
twomatchpoints
When: 12 Aug 12 00:56
Try My Best
Let's face it they did half a job as usual and there is no getting away from that fact.



And there's no getting away from the fact she was dead before they started searching

So what difference will it make to the parents ?   

Would they be happier if she was found last Saturday ?

I think not
By:
Clungehungry
When: 12 Aug 12 00:57
No, they don't. They need a warrant. And for that, they need evidence.
By:
Clungehungry
When: 12 Aug 12 00:57
And that would be to search, not tear apart.
By:
Try My Best
When: 12 Aug 12 00:58
You are an imbecile and your comments are shameful.
By:
Clungehungry
When: 12 Aug 12 00:59
:-)
By:
Clungehungry
When: 12 Aug 12 00:59
:-)
By:
Clungehungry
When: 12 Aug 12 00:59
:-)
By:
Try My Best
When: 12 Aug 12 01:01
obviously a thick copper who came out of school with 1 CSE if you can see the funny side in all this.
By:
DStyle
When: 12 Aug 12 01:01
what's shameful about those comments? i really don't understand.

i can acknowledge that the parents' worry and uncertainty was protracted due a bit of incompetence but it's been replaced with a staggeringly painful certainty.
By:
HonkyJoe
When: 12 Aug 12 01:06
Calm down Try My Best. You're just being silly about this.

In any case, it doesn't look as though they were simply too scared to go into the place and turn it upside down. It seems they missed the body because they couldn't be bothered to bring a ladder along and check the loft, which is a very different thing.



And the idea about it not mattering since the child was already dead is rather missing the point. Every now and again in a case like this, the child would actually have been still alive. Generally they're dead from the beginning, but you just don't know, which is one reason why the police need to find the child as quickly as possible, just on the off-chance that they can save her or him.
By:
Clungehungry
When: 12 Aug 12 01:06
"Help! Police! My grand-daughter is missing!"
"I see Madam, rest-assured, we'll have people round to tear your home apart tomorrow. We're not allowed to do so, and it doesn't really make any sense, but because some halfwit thinks that's how we work, we're all for it"
By:
Clungehungry
When: 12 Aug 12 01:07
HJ,

I may be wrong, but I think I read that they DID search the loft, but missed the body?
By:
Try My Best
When: 12 Aug 12 01:10
Police = A bunch of incompetent fools which basically they have admitted to.They couldn't be bothered to bring a ladder.Thjat sums it up in a nutshell.
By:
HonkyJoe
When: 12 Aug 12 01:12
Clunge, well that's even further away from what Try My Best was implying then.
By:
Try My Best
When: 12 Aug 12 01:15
Did they forget to bring a torch as well ffs.
By:
twomatchpoints
When: 12 Aug 12 01:16
Every loft I've been in has a light fitting
By:
HonkyJoe
When: 12 Aug 12 01:16
Perhaps SH told them there were rats up there..
By:
Clungehungry
When: 12 Aug 12 01:17
Sadly even your best is not good enough.

'Officers had searched the area where the body was eventually found without discovering anything.'

As I recalled.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-19223085
By:
Clungehungry
When: 12 Aug 12 01:18
Indeed, HJ.
By:
Try My Best
When: 12 Aug 12 01:20
And you lot have the temerity to complain about your salary and pensions.I wouldn't pay you minimum wage.
By:
tobermory
When: 12 Aug 12 01:20
The Police do not need a warrant in a case like this at all

If they are denied entry they can smash the door off the hinges and look where they like .

After having done so they then need to show: 1. They had reasonable grounds for suspecting it was necessary to stop a crime being committed  and/or apprehrend  the suspects & 2. That the suspected crime was serious enough to justify searching without a warrant, and therefore proportionate to this rarely used power.

Had they decided to get a warrant, having been denied entry, then it would have been a formality.
By:
tobermory
When: 12 Aug 12 01:22
So they did not fully utilize their powers, or maybe ,as the apology to the mother suggests, they just did not do it properly.
By:
tobermory
When: 12 Aug 12 01:29
Hard to guess what the greatest outpouring of ChitChat Fury will be in 2013, the post trial thread for this case or for the Derby Fire.
By:
twomatchpoints
When: 12 Aug 12 01:30
Still with the McCanns
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