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By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 12 Dec 12 19:15
Without hitting an object ball not energy is transferred into spin.

Imagine a backspin shot at golf. The club need to strike under the ball with a lofted club such as a sand wedge. In snooker the cue does not go under the ball.
By:
lfc1971
When: 12 Dec 12 19:19
Angel Gabrial

I may seem a little offhand but i am not going to answer that point again
By:
lfc1971
When: 12 Dec 12 19:22
ok let me just say again..to create backspin on a golf ball you hit down on it...the opposite of what you assume!
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 12 Dec 12 19:31
ok let me just say again..to create backspin on a golf ball you hit down on it...the opposite of what you assume!Happy

Now i know you are on the wind up.

Did i say that you hit up the golf ball up to create back spin? This would be the opposite.

So do you believe that similarly in snooker you have to hit down on the cueball to create spin?
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 12 Dec 12 19:33
Also creating spin on a golfball means the ball leaving the earth and spinning through the air.

This shot would be problematic on the green baize.
By:
lfc1971
When: 12 Dec 12 19:35
Angel Gabrael

Inever at any point mentioned hitting the golf ball up..mearly hitting slightly down with the golf club.

Much as one does with a snooker cue
By:
lfc1971
When: 12 Dec 12 19:39
Certainly on ocasions when i have played snooker the cue ball has to my amazement left the green baise

and occassionally the table itself!!
By:
PokerDane
When: 12 Dec 12 19:43
I'm not surprised.
By:
lfc1971
When: 12 Dec 12 19:44
Happy
By:
Pokermonster
When: 12 Dec 12 19:50
Most centre ball shots or lower, if struck at anything above a moderate pace, leave the bed of the table.
By:
lfc1971
When: 12 Dec 12 19:55
Pokermaster i have to go for this evening,and thanks again,
...try and keep Angel Gabrael away from golf please
By:
Pokermonster
When: 12 Dec 12 19:59
Good night, LFC.

Thank you for your continued interest in the thread.
By:
Clungehungry
When: 12 Dec 12 20:03
It's not EXACTLY relevant but I'd like you all to know that I once flipped a coin to decided who broke and it landed, from some height, on it's edge.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 12 Dec 12 20:14
LFC

To gain back spin the lofted golf club goes under the golf ball as i explained.

Not sure why you think the club just comes down on the ball without going under it. Why would you deny follow through. Anyway here it is simplified for you.

http://www.videojug.com/film/golf-how-to-get-backspin
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 12 Dec 12 20:19
Clunge

When you flipped the coin did it must have had forward spin? when it landed did it collide with any objects or come to a standstill touching your shoe?
By:
Clungehungry
When: 12 Dec 12 20:20
I can think of many reasons to deny follow through.

Sat in some chocolate cake is the plausible explanation I can come up with though. There was a great video a few years back of some bloke in white chino's who'd clearly properly shat himself, and two blokes were pursuing him with a camera. "Mate, you've shat yourself!"

"No, someone else did, I sat in it, that part I accept", was his somewhat unlikely explanation.
By:
Clungehungry
When: 12 Dec 12 20:22
It landed on the table. The coin that is. Not the follow through.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 12 Dec 12 20:23
Pokermonster

I am sure that you could have made it at snooker.

Interesting spherical observations being shared. It`s all good.
By:
Angel Gabrial
When: 12 Dec 12 20:36
Clunge

We are EMailing this thread to Rishi Persad for the discussion of the fallacy of topspin being highlighted by the snooker authorities.

However your tale of the chino guy following through and unintentionally potting the brown could be the talking point for John Parrot.
By:
Pokermonster
When: 13 Dec 12 01:23
On its edge resting against a cushion I presume you mean, CH, not standing upright in the middle of the table?
By:
Clungehungry
When: 13 Dec 12 01:50
No PM, on the table. Not near a cushion. It was a pound coin, which makes it slightly less weird bit I was still...whoah!
By:
Pokermonster
When: 15 Dec 12 15:15
You would have burned at the stake as a witch for stuff like that four-hundred years ago.
By:
Pokermonster
When: 20 Apr 13 00:03
The 2013 world championship starts today.  I predict very few topspin shots, if any.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 20 Apr 13 00:10
Hopefully Hendry's been working on his punditry. Lot of room for improvement based on what I saw a few months ago, imo
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 20 Apr 13 00:13
For me, they've let him do too much too soon.

He's ok passing comment as an assistant commentator and not too bad with Hazel and SD/JP/KD in the studio but terrible doing the one-to-one interviews
By:
Pokermonster
When: 20 Apr 13 00:19
Bring back Sir Clive Everton I say.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 20 Apr 13 00:21
Can't fault him on his knowledge but needs to work on his delivery and persona, imo
By:
Pokermonster
When: 02 May 13 19:34
Just bumping a few threads I wanted to save from the upgrade.  My apologies for cluttering the forum.
By:
Pokermonster
When: 11 Mar 14 20:14
Not long until this year's World Championships.  I won't be here during the tournament so just making my annual thread bump a bit early.

Good evening.
By:
Pokermonster
When: 21 Apr 15 20:06
No topspin shots as yet this year.
By:
Pokermonster
When: 21 Apr 15 20:08
There are a few 'blasts from the past' on this thread, I wonder if some still post under different names?
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 21 Apr 15 21:41
None that I can see. Plain
By:
Howdi
When: 21 Apr 15 22:11
GrinLEGENDARY THREAD
By:
Pokermonster
When: 18 Nov 17 23:07
I wonder if V4 Vendetta (AKA Goring) ever made it to his country retreat to try out my topspin test? :)
By:
Pokermonster
When: 18 Nov 17 23:14
It's a shame the forum seems so quiet lately, I recall fielding questions and insults nineteen to the dozen back in the day! :)
By:
Torquemada
When: 19 Nov 17 00:32
A thread about snooker gets 700 replies and 10000 views! WTF? LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh

PM - You're a legend in your own lunchtime! LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
FatherMaguire
When: 19 Nov 17 00:54
Agreed, always interesting posts - as an aside, they need to sort the world championship tickets out - theyve allowed touts to hoover them up, and every session is over £100 - need to introduce a purchaser present policy, cos the touts are cleaning up at the expense of proper fans (like m)
By:
Pokermonster
When: 14 Jan 19 14:02
Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. :)

Munch Man's legendary golf ball thread has inspired me to resurrect this old chestnut.

No topspin shots seen at the Masters as yet.
By:
Baphornet
When: 14 Jan 19 14:56
excellent Mr P, i shall have a gander later. No doubt the banana shot has been discussed?
By:
Pokermonster
When: 14 Jan 19 15:43
Yes indeed, Mr B. Many, many times in fact. :)

The first ten pages or so are quite an entertaining read, then we got a little sidetracked once or twice. My favourite part was where a fellow cut and pasted MY words on to an American science forum, waited for their members' responses, and then cut and pasted THEM back on here trying to disprove my arguments. What he didn't realise, alas, was that I was also a member on that forum as well. :)

Best wishes, sir.
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